I have no problem with Gamers navigation. I don't go on it very often, but it's not hard to find what I'm looking for.

I think that's the problem we have on Gamers is that we have a forum for everything. We tried to combine everything into similar boards but evidently people still complain. I mostly use the New Posts button, but I use that on all boards.

I've always found the Gamers navigation really not to my tastes. The discussion tends to make it worth dealing with the various shortcomings, but I wish it wasn't so clunky.

1. The first thing is having to log in every time and having no access as a guest to just read. If one of the two could be fixed, then the other would be far less annoying, but the combination is really kinda obnoxious. I've come to accept that it will never change, but it's still a significant barrier.

2. The staggering number of forums that mostly go months without a post is tough to navigate. I work around this issue by exclusively using the View New Posts option at the top, but I still think shedding 30 forums and allowing broader topics in any particular forum is a superior arrangement. I accept that others like extensive categorization and am fine with my workaround, but I think it scares off more casual browsers by giving them an unmanagable single list (view new posts) or 50 unmanagable categories (browse forums) rather than 5-10 managable ones.

3. No site is worse about sticky and announcement abuse than gamers. Between the sheer number, the cross-posting of the same announcement to different subforums, and the lack of unsticking out-of-date ones it's just a mess. This one I think is the most easily solvable through some pruning, condensing, and changing of the forum/post settings to avoid the cross-posts except when absolutely necessary.

4. All the color schemes are kinda garish--granted, this is extremely subjective. The one I like best (Mando) has a number of graphics bugs that have never been addressed that I just put up with because the colors don't bug me quite as much as the others. But I find Bloo's color scheme much more easily readable, as an example.

5. I hate the multi-picture sigs and the general clutter all around the posts. I accept that others like this stuff and it's probably a part of gamers that will never change. But it annoys me. :)

Thanks for asking!

this about my only issue as well,i've jsut never felt really comfortable bringing it up before hand...

As for viewing forum post as a guest,its a security issue IIRC...

It is some kind of programming bug that we never got worked out when we still had a competent coder on hand..

I get around it by never closing my firefox session (or when I restart, allow firefox to restore my previously opened tabs)

I'd love to get it fixed, but we've yet to meet another swm playing coder (other than shinja who has bloomilk!) and enough free time to help us out. :)



you can set your board preferences to not see the signatures. Go to Profile{top of the screen} --> Board Preferences{now look to the left}, and then choose to disable viewing signatures/avatars.

Yes Stickies and Announcements are very over-running.. I've been meaning to clean those up!

And yes, there are redundant forums.. some discussion will be prompted! :)

Ruhk, I was 1 of the people who posted on the earlier thread about navigation and I apologize if it snowballed out of control.

Every time I've tried to access it on my pc it has problems loading pages, Some times I get "item removed" messages after waiting for ages, this may be my pc I know.
Accessing it from my iphone also has a hard time finding what I'm after, mainly due to loading everything and finding what I'm after.

I see something on the home page and I click on it but nothing happens.
So I did spend a couple of hours on there today and I can say as some one else said, it just takes a little bit of getting used to, especially if your used to different forum layouts.
Since today I'm navigating it 10 times better than before.

Cool, glad to hear your new account works fine. I think most people don't realize the sheer amount of material and support we have had and continue to have, and so much of the seemingly endless amount of forums and subforums has a lot to do with that. All of those sections at varying times have had, and continue to have a lot of traffic - depending on what is going on. It helps a great deal to prevent things from getting buried once you are used to that.

With that said, we did a reorganization a while back, and I am sure we will do another one again when the time is right to do so.

There is a size limit IIRC, but when someone goes to the max.. well there ya go.

Thanks for all the comments guys, I appreciate the suggestions. :)

I'll keep that in mind.