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dragonsheorth
Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:52:38 AM
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Sorry to ask but fairly new to game...tried searching backwards and just got totally overwhelmed so asking a simple 2 questions:

My son (age 16) wants to build an entire squad of ewoks based on the concepts no deeper than the movie (so you could throw in a C3PO Ewok diety or maybe a chewbacca [but not the hoth chewbacca]...hope that makes sense). Guarenteed you could pimp out the force by adding in other stuff that has no connection to the movie.. we know that. What he wants is the best ewok army built without extra stuff (like lobots or ugganughts or sith lords or or or etc). What is the best balance of the specific ewoks in that army as well.. scouts, warriors, regulars, gliders, logray (or not), Wikket (or not), c3po diety (or not), a RotJ era han solo or princess leia on speeder bike (or not)... what would you do and how would you suggest he play it. He just wants to beat his pals with ewoks but not be untrue to the concept.

That said, and far more evil, is my desire to eventually beat his ewoks with my wookie only army... what combination would you suggest I use in the same vein but not just to beat him but to have a similarly "true" wookie army?... and how many of each (scouts, warriors, berserkers, etc) would you put in? Merumeru? Tarfful? which Chewbacca?.

Any help would be wonderfully appreciated! I am sure others have asked the same before but as I searched all i found were armies that had mixes of all kinds of things that did not mesh fluidly into a "my simple ewoks/wookies just crushed you" concept. with specifics because we both get the tarfful beaten out of us regularly by the local players... Sneaky

Thanks again... I await your reply

Billy Dooku
Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:06:19 AM
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I had thrown this Wookie squad together thinking about Episode 3 defense of Kashyyk with Yoda leading the troops. Feel free to tweek it to fit your concept.

--Wookies--
55 Grand Master Yoda
38 Merumeru
38 Wookiee Elite Warrior x2
11 Wookiee Scoundrel
5 Youngling
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:44:02 AM
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dragonsheorth wrote:


Any help would be wonderfully appreciated! I am sure others have asked the same before but as I searched all i found were armies that had mixes of all kinds of things that did not mesh fluidly into a "my simple ewoks/wookies just crushed you" concept. with specifics because we both get the tarfful beaten out of us regularly by the local players... Sneaky



All wookiees/ewoks wouldn't be a tier-1 (or probably even tier 2) type squad, so it would take quite a bit of skill and luck to pull off a win versus a more competitive squad. I look forward to seeing the ideas, though.

With no door control, a squad would be all but sunk from the outset. Staying true to the movies, though, you could throw in a couple of Elite Rebel Commandos to get some override. Even without Madine or Rieekan they're tough.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:54:21 PM
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--Ewoks--
35 Han Solo, Rebel Hero
30 Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
27 Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando
16 Elite Rebel Commando
14 Princess Leia, Rebel Hero
11 Rebel Commando Pathfinder
9 R2-D2 with Extended Sensor
24 Ewok Scout x4
5 C-3PO, Ewok Deity
5 Ewok Warrior
24 Ewok x8

(200pts. 21 activations)

I don't know how much non-ewok stuff is allowed, but staying true to the canon... I took all the Endor versions of the main characters. R2 doesn't have an Endor-specific version, but R2-extended seems a good representation. I took an ERC and a Pathfinder from the commando options. The pathfinder will help get the melee ewoks up to the front faster.

Staying with the canon is tough - no Ithorian Commander, who is the obvious boost to the ewoks. But if he's out it's hard to hit anything. Swarm is tough to make work because there are so many ways to wipe out a bunch at once - grenades, bursts, lightning, strafe/gallop, etc. The squad above with Ewok Scouts/Han RH at least gets up to 30dmg attacks at +8 for the Scouts vs unactivated enemies... more with Swarm. And Luke + Han can dish out 80dmg on a single turn.

A pure ewok squad would be an insane number of activations...
dragonsheorth
Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:33:21 AM
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so far thanks for all the ideas! yoda is great with the wookies! no chewbacca or tarfful? i'd skip the younglings and uggnaught so what would you put in instead? is yoda on kybuck better? second try? pleaseeeee! ;-)

as to ewoks... there are still too many "non-ewoks"... no hang gliders? no logray? no wickett? he doesn't mind the extra activations if they can be useful... one or two of the others would be ok but too many rebel characters to make it feel excessively ewokey... and thats the goal... willing to give it a second try too?

we KNOW these won't be the best squads... we just want them the best combo of PURE ewoks/wookies with a couple extras... thanks again for the great start and love anyone else to help too!
General Ed
Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:32:15 AM
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I just saw this. Ewoks! I love them and know what you are talking about. An Ewok swarm! Darth Jim is a huge fan of such squads. Anyways... for an Ewok squad, 200 points, like you are thinking.

Ewoks: 9 R2-D2 with Extended Sensor
5 C-3PO, Ewok Deity
27 Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando
30 Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
14 Ewok Hang Glider x2
12 Logray, Ewok Shaman
8 Wicket
18 Ewok Scout x3
40 Ewok Warrior x8
36 Ewok x12
Total: 199 points with 32 activations
dragonsheorth
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:46:58 AM
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General Ed... is that the best Chewbacca (thats not a Hoth or such) and Luke (not early Luke or late/spirit Luke) to throw in there? I have, literally, come into possession of several thousand Imperials and have focused soley on them till now... everything else to me is new! lol

Why those choices for Chewbacca, Luke and even ratios for the ewoks? I love the input and what you have looks exactly like what he is envisioning... now curious why those rations? And why not the combined c-3po and R2d2 mini and/or more ewoks? The Ewok diety, although cute, seems to suck

Still looking for Wookie squad too...again pretty pure to wookies
TreebeardTheEnt
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:02:29 AM
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I would have picked those versions of Luke and Chewbacca because they are the versions of the characters that were on Endore. I would use R2-PO over Deity considering they are both from the same movie time.

For your Wookie Squad I would do a battle of Kasshakk (spelling?) squad, so I would start with Yoda, JM since he is the verson of Yoda that was there.
cymonguk
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:12:04 PM
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Merumeru 38
Chewbacca FS 23
r2-d2 AMD 9
Grand Master Yoda 55
Wookiee Elite Warrior 19
Gree 20
Wookiee Scoundrel x 3= 33

I am no squad maker like some of the guys here, but wookiees are going to suffer from lack of attacking power, so Merumeru offers bonuses when close quarters, GMY and Gree are tough in their own right, and offer a +7 attack and +3 defense, so when adjacent your wookiees are going to run at 17 attack and 17 Defense. The elite warrior can run and hit at +21 and 30 damage, with bonuses afforded, or Chewie at +20 attackand 20 defense.

Gree is better than Tarfful as you dont have to be adjacent to get the bonus.

R2 can drag yoda or one of your big wookiees around to get close and hit the opposition big characters hard
swmtrader
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:11:40 PM
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Try This:

--Wookies--
38 Merumeru
26 Tarfful
23 Chewbacca, Fearless Scout
57 Wookiee Elite Warrior x3
28 Wookiee Freedom Fighter x2
11 Wookiee Trooper
9 Wookiee Commando
8 Mas Amedda

So the wookies all gain +8 attack against any adjacent character. the Elites can do +17 attack for 40 damage, then mighty swing next turn. Merumeru, chewbacca and the freedom fighters can shoot (kinda). Mas for commander effects
General Ed
Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 2:52:49 AM
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@Dragobsheorth: You don't have to go with those exact ratios of Ewoks. It's just a suggestion. I recommend a having the Ewok Warrior for non-melee attackers. Chewbacca, Rebel Hero not only is the Endor version of him but can also help keep your droids alive and is a nice attacker as well. You ae free to mix up which R2 and C-3PO you want to use. Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando is also the Endor version of him. He is a descent Melee piece and levitate will help with getting other characters into place.
super_fly
Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:26:31 AM
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Great topic, I just picked up a bunch of wookies and was wondering the same thing.

I have the three (that I know of) non-Chewie rares, Cmdr. Gree, and all of the wookies I could find.

What's the best overall Chewbacca to go in an all/mostly wookie force? Fearless Scout?

And would GMY be the best all around Yoda option?

By "all around" I'm thinking fun with a shot, not Tier 1. Similar to OP from what I can tell.
cymonguk
Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 6:08:45 AM
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super_fly wrote:
Great topic, I just picked up a bunch of wookies and was wondering the same thing.

I have the three (that I know of) non-Chewie rares, Cmdr. Gree, and all of the wookies I could find.

What's the best overall Chewbacca to go in an all/mostly wookie force? Fearless Scout?

And would GMY be the best all around Yoda option?

By "all around" I'm thinking fun with a shot, not Tier 1. Similar to OP from what I can tell.


I would have said FS is the best choice in terms of price/hp/abilities, you get stealth, stable footing and artillerist (useful against lancers, etc)

Rebel hero is ok too, but for point cost think I would always take the FS version.

I looked at GMY just because of his CE, he is decent fighter in his own right. You could as easily go for clone strike ( to get reroll saves), or Jedi Master for the bodyguard, but I think with this squad GMy probably fits better.
dragonsheorth
Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:03:56 PM
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The feedback is great! I am not so worried about some parts but i wouldn't want C3PO on Chewbacca, for example, as that is not him with the ewoks...

Same with the force spirit yoda as that, to me, is after he died and not akin to when he was hanging with the wookies during clone war...

Which chewbacca is also tough but, as mentioned, no Hoth chewy with ewoks because it doesn't jibe...

And thanks for the ratios suggested... it is tough knowing...my son also liked Gree with all his ewoks as it seems to add a huge attack bonus to their pitiful stats... but no Gree was ever with ewoks (that we know of) so it is merely "gaming the system" which is what he is trying to avoid... he also has a desire to have a Kit Fisto led ewok army because that's his favorite at the moment... but keeping it pure is what this thread is all about and i appreciate every bit of feedback! anyone else have ideas of the rations for the ewoks and on the other teams the wookies?
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