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KyleDanva
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 12:38:20 AM
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Im still sort of new in this game, and play it with 2 other persons who are also very new to this game. So i kinda don't have anyone else to ask for help :<
Anyway, while playing and building our squads, we came across some questions and issues. Here is a small list of things that are unclear for us. i hope someone can clarify some if not all of the issues for us :)

:

Junk Golem, has an abilty named 'ambush'
wehat does that work exactly? i can just move any amount of squares to the named unactivated 1 enemy and then make both attacks from 'double attack' ? Does this count towards my turn of this character or is it extra ?

Armor Penetration 10, does it mean -10 on defense rating, or more likely reduces the effect of for example Yuuzhan Vong Crab armor ?

Can you stack: Advantageous cover (+8 defense instead of +4) with for example the Commander effect from Darth Vader, Imperial Commander which grants trooper followers +6 defense?
(does it matter whatever the advantageous cover was a standars abilty, or if it was given by the effect of another commander effect?)

Lobot, Computer Liaison Officer, if i have line of sight to an enemy i get to use Recon, so this means if im correct that i have 2 changes to get roll of exactly 11 for Fringe reserves 30 (and can i get unique fringe chars that way?)

Yuuzhan Vong:
the commander effect frm yuuzhan vong subaltern provides Double attack to allied yv warriors, does this effect stack with twin attack? So will the named YV be able to make 4 attacks? Blink

Shaper +10 (+10 damage to allied YV) & Scarification +10 (+4 attack and +10 damage) do these effects stack? or is it just + 4 attack and + 10 damage, and if it had been shaper + 20 then + 4 attack & + 20 damage ??

Battle droids have 0 attack, so they will be only usefull as combined fire characters, but they cannot start the attack themselves right ? they can only grant +4 attack to another character with an attack of more then 0 ?

Battle droid officer gives +4 attack to non-unique allies (not a commander effect), does this include the droid officer itself?

If Durge, Jedi Hunter attacks an Unique Enemy with a Force rating, will he get the + 4 attack from both his abilities?

Kyle Katarn, combat instructor commander effect: allies within 6 squares gain Lightsaber duelist, does this mean that for example my Galactic Alliance Scout will get this effect aswell? even tho he has no lightsaber/force rating. ?

The commander effects from general Obi - Wan Kenobi and Grand master Yoda, do the stack ?

( i notice that i ask a lot of the same sort of questions, so 1 universal answer to clarify matters would be just as welcome Smile )

Speed 0, means i cannot move... at all ? (unless i would have a force point to spend on extra movement ?)

Emplacement, means i dont have to set it up within 4 squares of the edge, but Anywhere on my half correct?

Im not yet familiar withall sorts of Abbreviations (is the word i believe xD ) so if you use them, please do tell me the meaning first.

Tnx in advance
i totally love this site, it is an awesome site to look up all sorts of things,
and im sure that a lot of what i just asked can be found elsewhere, but just to be 100% sure for myself i figured why not ask it in the forums to more experienced players Blushing

imyurhukaberry
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 1:52:04 AM
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KyleDanva wrote:
Im still sort of new in this game, and play it with 2 other persons who are also very new to this game. So i kinda don't have anyone else to ask for help :<
Anyway, while playing and building our squads, we came across some questions and issues. Here is a small list of things that are unclear for us. i hope someone can clarify some if not all of the issues for us :)

:

#1) Junk Golem, has an abilty named 'ambush'
wehat does that work exactly? i can just move any amount of squares to the named unactivated 1 enemy and then make both attacks from 'double attack' ? Does this count towards my turn of this character or is it extra ?

#2) Armor Penetration 10, does it mean -10 on defense rating, or more likely reduces the effect of for example Yuuzhan Vong Crab armor ?

#3) Can you stack: Advantageous cover (+8 defense instead of +4) with for example the Commander effect from Darth Vader, Imperial Commander which grants trooper followers +6 defense?
(does it matter whatever the advantageous cover was a standars abilty, or if it was given by the effect of another commander effect?)

#4) Lobot, Computer Liaison Officer, if i have line of sight to an enemy i get to use Recon, so this means if im correct that i have 2 changes to get roll of exactly 11 for Fringe reserves 30 (and can i get unique fringe chars that way?)

#5) Yuuzhan Vong:
the commander effect frm yuuzhan vong subaltern provides Double attack to allied yv warriors, does this effect stack with twin attack? So will the named YV be able to make 4 attacks? Blink

#6) Shaper +10 (+10 damage to allied YV) & Scarification +10 (+4 attack and +10 damage) do these effects stack? or is it just + 4 attack and + 10 damage, and if it had been shaper + 20 then + 4 attack & + 20 damage ??

#7) Battle droids have 0 attack, so they will be only usefull as combined fire characters, but they cannot start the attack themselves right ? they can only grant +4 attack to another character with an attack of more then 0 ?

#8) Battle droid officer gives +4 attack to non-unique allies (not a commander effect), does this include the droid officer itself?

#9) If Durge, Jedi Hunter attacks an Unique Enemy with a Force rating, will he get the + 4 attack from both his abilities?

#10) Kyle Katarn, combat instructor commander effect: allies within 6 squares gain Lightsaber duelist, does this mean that for example my Galactic Alliance Scout will get this effect aswell? even tho he has no lightsaber/force rating. ?

#11) The commander effects from general Obi - Wan Kenobi and Grand master Yoda, do the stack ?

( i notice that i ask a lot of the same sort of questions, so 1 universal answer to clarify matters would be just as welcome Smile )

#12) Speed 0, means i cannot move... at all ? (unless i would have a force point to spend on extra movement ?)

#13) Emplacement, means i dont have to set it up within 4 squares of the edge, but Anywhere on my half correct?

Im not yet familiar withall sorts of Abbreviations (is the word i believe xD ) so if you use them, please do tell me the meaning first.

Tnx in advance
i totally love this site, it is an awesome site to look up all sorts of things,
and im sure that a lot of what i just asked can be found elsewhere, but just to be 100% sure for myself i figured why not ask it in the forums to more experienced players Blushing



I numbered your questions to make them easier to answer...

#1) (from the Glossary) "On its turn, this character can move and then make all of its attacks against a single enemy who has not activated this round. Many abilities that grant extra attacks, such as Triple Attack, require the character not to move, but Ambush lets it move and make extra attacks as long as all are against the same enemy."

#2) Note: the name is just Penetration 10.
(from the Glossary) "Enemies’ Damage Reduction is reduced by 10 against this character’s attacks. If this character’s Penetration number exceeds the target’s Damage Reduction, its damage does not increase."
Penetration only affects characters with the special ability Damage Reduction.

#3) Yes.

#4) Yes. You roll twice and chose one of the results. You do not get Reserves twice even if you roll two 11's. (and yes, you can get uniques, but you cannot bring back a unique character that has been previously defeated in the skirmish)

#5) Yes.

#6) They stack. Result would be +4att +20dam per attack.

#7) The attack value does not prohibit a character from attacking. Think of it as a bonus to the die roll. Any character can attack (with the exception of those with "--" in their stats, ex: HoloSid), however characters with 0 as their damage stat might not be able to do much. (might Wink)

#8) The BDO (battle droid officer) does not grant himself the bonus (he is not his own ally). However, if you had two BDOs in the same squad, they would give each other the bonus.

#9) Yes. Result would be +8att +10dam

#10) Yes. Lightsaber Duelist is just an ability that allows the character to combat against force users (generally with lightsabers)

#11) No. CEs that grant direct bonuses to stats do not stack.

#12) Yes.

#13) Yes. In any legal squares on your half of the map.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 3:00:15 AM
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The general principle for stacking:

* Different named abilities stack with each other.
* The same named ability does not stack with itself. So for example, Opportunist does not stack with Opportunist +20 - you only get the better of the two. As another example, if you have 2 Yuuzhan Vong Shapers, Vong only get the Shaper bonus one time even if you have two characters granting the bonus.
* "Nameless" commander effects that grant direct bonuses do not stack with each other, but they do stack with the named abilities. imyurhukaberry referred to this in #11 above. That's why the CEs from Grand Master Yoda (GMY) and General Obi-Wan Kenobi (GOWK) do not stack. For each stat, you'd get the best bonus but you would not add the bonuses together. In this case, GOWK's +4/+4 is better than GMY's +3/+3 so the character would get +4 attack/+4 defense.


Also some notes about Twin Attack... it is in almost all circumstances better than Double Attack.
* You can move and still use Twin Attack.
* You use Twin Attack when making an attack of opportunity (aoo).
* You use Twin Attack when making other attacks out of turn: Djem So Style, Lightsaber Riposte, or bonus attacks granted by other characters (e.g. Princess Leia or Bothan Noble).
* You use Twin Attack for EACH attack you make if you have Double/Triple/Quadruple attack. In an extreme case, you could have a Rodian Raider paired with Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi General (known as Flobi since he's flying), General Windu, and a Czerka Scientist. That would give the Rodian Raider Quintuple Attack plus Twin Attack for 10 attacks when not moving.
* Basically, you use Twin Attack after every attack no matter what. (Except if it's a Twin Attack itself... that would lead to infinite attacks.)
* The major advantage Double Attack has over Twin Attack is that you can attack 2 different characters with Double Attack. The Twin Attack has to be against the same enemy as the original attack.
Sithborg
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 3:31:27 AM
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In the future, please try to seperate unrelated questions into different threads. The more unrelated questions, the harder it is too keep track of them all and any follow up questions.
KyleDanva
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 5:21:51 AM
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thanks for the great replies, really usefull

and yeah in the future i will make seperate topics, but obviously now i thought that would be a bit to much for myself :<
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