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DarthJoe8
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 1:08:59 AM
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I know this has been asked before but I couldn't find the answer.

Can the noble get opportunist from the likes of Thrawn, or cunning from Jabba?

Thanks
The Celestial Warrior
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Yes.
DarthJoe8
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 3:22:07 AM
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Thanks,

So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 4:07:26 AM
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DarthJoe8 wrote:
Thanks,

So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?


Droids BigGrin

Basically due to the Mouse droid (who can get a boosted Attack from the BDO) all SA's or CE's that grant damage to Droid have specifically stated they must have a base damage greater than 0.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 4:29:57 AM
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
DarthJoe8 wrote:
Thanks,

So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?


Droids BigGrin

Basically due to the Mouse droid (who can get a boosted Attack from the BDO) all SA's or CE's that grant damage to Droid have specifically stated they must have a base damage greater than 0.


Unless I missed something, Advanced Battle Meditation will grant damage to a Mouse Droid.
DarthJoe8
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 5:13:05 AM
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I noticed this also. It's not a CE so it should work.
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 7:00:03 AM
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DarthJoe8 wrote:
I noticed this also. It's not a CE so it should work.


Hmm, yes it will. But since you will never see a droid affecting CE in the OR or Fringe...not going to get much from it.
DarthJoe8
Posted: Monday, January 3, 2011 7:07:04 AM
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Maybe not but it would be cool for my mouse to put the smack down on an uggie. ThumpUp
Baegn
Posted: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:08:33 AM
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ABM does not work with mice. See the Bastilla, JM thread.
DarthJoe8
Posted: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 6:31:46 AM
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I see. Thanks. I guess it wouldn't work with the noble either...??
Chargers
Posted: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:15:19 PM
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DarthJoe8 wrote:
So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?


As others have correctly noted, yes, they can get boosted.

But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
EmporerDragon
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Chargers wrote:


But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.


Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire.
LBPB
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EmporerDragon wrote:
Chargers wrote:


But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.


Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire.


imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'.

I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0.

Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb. ThumbDown
Baegn
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I agree with you LBPB, but characters that are unable to attack (technically) should have a - (dash) through Attack and Damage, instead of a 0 (zero), as SOME characters do. Why some do and some do not was probably just design oversight that we have to deal with, unless a list is published of characters that are never able to Attack.
FlyingArrow
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LBPB wrote:
EmporerDragon wrote:
Chargers wrote:


But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.


Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire.


imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'.

I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0.

Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb. ThumbDown


I think you mean Damage 0. Battle Droids also have Attack 0.
Sithborg
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LBPB wrote:
EmporerDragon wrote:
Chargers wrote:


But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.


Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire.


imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'.

I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0.

Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb. ThumbDown


This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system.
LBPB
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 3:55:32 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
LBPB wrote:


imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'.

I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0.

Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb. ThumbDown


I think you mean Damage 0. Battle Droids also have Attack 0.


oooops.. you're right Blushing


Sithborg wrote:
This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system.

I agree in overall, but a little errata won't hurt on this particular aspect. Listing the characters who can't attack at all, is not a such huge task, and this will prevent players to use the biggest cheat of the game...
countrydude82487
Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 2:33:48 PM
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LBPB wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
LBPB wrote:


imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'.

I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0.

Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb. ThumbDown


I think you mean Damage 0. Battle Droids also have Attack 0.


oooops.. you're right Blushing


Sithborg wrote:
This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system.

I agree in overall, but a little errata won't hurt on this particular aspect. Listing the characters who can't attack at all, is not a such huge task, and this will prevent players to use the biggest cheat of the game...

i wouldnt call it the biggest cheat of the game. i mean a mouse droid getting 24 defense without cover is pretty broken for a 3 point piece or 2 with lobot. i would personally call dodanna the games biggest cheat. because i have never been too worried about a 10 damage attack from a cammassi that cant crit you.
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