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Ok, so, I built this squad because, based on my knowledge, the 2 CEs from GOWK and GMY would stack, but I just wanted to be sure. Can anyone get me some clarification on this?
--Jedi Defenders--
55 General Obi-Wan Kenobi
55 Grand Master Yoda
49 Anakin Skywalker, Champion of Nelvaan
60 Antarian Ranger x5
8 R7 Astromech Droid
15 Youngling x3
6 Mouse Droid x2
(248pts. 14 activations)
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No, GOWK's and GMY's CEs will not stack. They are straight bonuses, which never stack unless stated. So everyone will just get the +4/+4 from GOWK.
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My understanding was that they would stack since they are 2 different CEs with different card texts....
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This is incorrect. This is covered under the Commander Effects section of the glossary.
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Named abilities stack with different named abilities (i.e. if one CE gives you opportunist and one gives you Jedi Hunter you can have both and get +8 to hit against activated Jedi).
Flat bonuses to stats which aren't named don't stack with each other (+4 Attack from GOWK doesn't stack with +3 from Yoda or even conditional unnamed bonuses like the +4 from Captain Antilles that only applies against Fringe).
It's a little difficult to get a handle on (for example if Captain Antilles granted "Fringe Hunter" it would stack and "Fringe Hunter" looks a lot like "+4 to hit and +10 to damage against Fringe"), but once you get used to it it's pretty clear.
Summary:
+4 to Attack & +3 to Attack = +4 to Attack
+4 to Attack & Opportunist = +8 to Attack
Opportunist & Jedi Hunter = +8 to Attack
Jedi Hunter from CE1 & Jedi Hunter from CE2 = +4 to Attack
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What about special abilities? Could you use Master shaper +10 damage twice or a droid officers +4 attack twice? Or same rules still apply?
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bo_mastar wrote:What about special abilities? Could you use Master shaper +10 damage twice or a droid officers +4 attack twice? Or same rules still apply? Master Shaper and Shaper +10 stack as they have different names, even though they affect the same stats. Droid Officer = No. Exact same SA. This is a rules thread - I'm moving it accordingly.
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Lord Eternus wrote:My understanding was that they would stack since they are 2 different CEs with different card texts.... Even though the two CEs in question give different "static" bonuses, they are still a flat stat increase. The only real difference is with GOWK's, the follower needs an ally within 6 squares as a condition. If a follower can benefit from both, then you would pick the better of the two. As mentioned before, if you have a CE that grants an Special Ability (like General Skywalker's Momentum CE), then that will stack with GOWK's or Yoda's CE. Sincerely, Jester007
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Jester007 wrote:Lord Eternus wrote:My understanding was that they would stack since they are 2 different CEs with different card texts.... Even though the two CEs in question give different "static" bonuses, they are still a flat stat increase. The only real difference is with GOWK's, the follower needs an ally within 6 squares as a condition. If a follower can benefit from both, then you would pick the better of the two. As mentioned before, if you have a CE that grants an Special Ability (like General Skywalker's Momentum CE), then that will stack with GOWK's or Yoda's CE. Sincerely, Jester007 Let me see if I have this correctly in a similar scenario: So if you have Atris, some Echani Handmaiden's, Master Kota as well as Grand Master Yoda in a Republic Squad the Echani Handmaiden's would benefit from the +4 attack and +10 damage from Atris but only one of the +3 attack / +3 defense CE's from Kota and Yoda, not both.........correct?
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They would get +4 Attack (Atris), +3 Defense (Kota or Yoda, not both), +10 Damage (Atris).
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^^^
Thanks spyder. At least I have a solid grasp of some things! lol
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