WHO: Anyone that shows up.
WHERE: Underhill Games, 1747 State Rd. Cuyahoga FallS, OH 44221
WHEN: Saturday, November 17th, 2012 everyone should show up at noon and we play until the battles over.

Greetings Everyone!

We've been discussing doing a battle of Hoth for a couple of months now and we decided it was time to give it a shot. So this thread has two purposes, first, to inform everybody of the WHERE and WHEN, and second, to open up a discussion concerning ideas of how to run the scenario.

So far our thought process was this: a 1000 point Imperial squad VS a 1000 point Rebel squad. The units allowed would be as follows:

Rebel

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Hoth Trooper
Elite Hoth Trooper
Hoth Trooper with Atgar Cannon
Hoth Trooper Officer
Hoth Trooper with Repeating Blaster Cannon
Rebel Leader
Rebel Officer
Rebel Pilot
Rebel Trooper on Tauntaun
Luke Skywalker on Tauntaun
Luke Skywalker, Hoth Pilot Unleashed
Han Solo on Tauntaun
Han Solo of Hoth
Han Solo, rogue
Chewbacca of Hoth
Chewbacca
Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
General Rieekan
Princess Leia, Hoth Commander
Princess Leia
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Spirit
Rebel Snowspeeder
Luke's Snowspeeder
Wedge's Snowspeeder
R2-D2
R2-D2 with Extended Sensor
C-3PO
C-3PO and R2-D2
K-3PO
Wedge Antilles, Red Two
Wedge Antilles
Golan Arms DF.9 Anti-Infantry Battery
2-1B
Rebel Troop Cart


Imperial

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Snowtrooper
Elite Snowtrooper
Snowtrooper Commander
Snowtrooper with E-Web blaster
General Veers
General Veers, Hologram
Darth Vader, Imperial Commander
Blizzard Scout 1
AT-ST
AT-AT Imperial Walker
At-AT Driver
Elite AT-AT Driver
Imperial Probe Droid - ***added 10/18, can't believe I forgot this one...***

Fringe

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Wampa
Rampaging Wampa
R4 Astromech Droid
R5 Astromech Droid
R7 Astromech Droid
Treadwell Droid
Medical Droid
Bacta Tank

Obviously, where multiples of the same unique is listed, you can only choose one. (Although we are toying with the idea if you use the Luke Snowspeeder if/when it get's defeated, you can replace it with another Luke from the list).

Only the Darth Vader form the Battle of Hoth set was put on the list due to the thought that the Imperials already have a big advantage.

We are going to join several maps together, not sure how many at this point.

We are thinking that if the Rebels survive 'X' amount of rounds then they win, otherwise it's the Imperials. Or we could just run the scenario until one side is completely defeated.

We're not sure if we should let players choose which side they are on or randomly determine teams.


Those are the basics. We'd love to see people show up to play, but if you can't, then we'd still like to hear your ideas for playing. Please feel free to add your thoughs or any characters I may have forgotten.

Thanks for reading! Hope to see you for the BATTLE OF HOTH - at Underhill Games on November 17th, 2012!

This is something I'd like to hear more about!

DN,

Multiple fronts is a cool idea. We ran a test of the scenario back on 10/20 using a large map comprised of 3 maps placed end to end longways, with an AT-AT at one end and the Power generator at the other end. From that our idea was to make a large Hoth map based on 6 maps placed length-wise in a 3 wide x 2 high grid:

A - B - C
D - E - F

Where maps A, B, and C are the starting rebel side and D, E, and F are the starting Imperial side. The top of Map B would be where the power generator would be located. We were thinking that following the scenario rules for the Battle of Hoth set, an AT-AT would not be able to target or shoot at the power generator until it moved into the first square of map A, B, or C. We were also thinking of limiting the number of AT-AT's to either 2 or 3.

So, given this information, how would you like us to change it to try doing a multiple fronts idea? I'm really interested in what your take on this could be.

As for Rescue from Jabba's Palace, it sounds like fun. Do you have the scenario already laid out?

Dennis, I’ll try sum up my thoughts as coherently as possible given the fact I’m plagued riddled at the moment.

All of which are merely suggestions…

My idea of multiple fronts is simply an indoor and outdoor simultaneous incursion by the Imperials, wherein you run the AT-AT & AT-ST’s against the speeders, outdoor uniques (Luke & Wedge SnSpeeders, Veers). I like the A-B-C map idea & would recommend two AT-AT’s and if Luke’s or Wedge’s speeder get smoked they can roll a 6> to become ground forces at the point of their crash (LS, HPU and WA, Red 2)

To the question of the CE, I would say they benefit only if the forces are deployed for ground assault, IMO there in stasis & are vulnerable. IMO no Draw Fire for AT-AT they’re tough enough, as for Rieekan he’s on the inside so no Evade if you elect to go the multiple front idea. If not what does the Golan’s card state? If nothing limiting and Rieekan is outside, then I say yes to Evade.
On the inside, setup would be frenetic as the Rebels should be scattered over the map. On Bloo look under Community>Links>SW Mini Maps then Echo Base as that’s the map I have laminated for both Hoth and Jabba scenarios.

Recommended unique minis for inside…
Rebels: (HS, Rogue, PL, HC, Rieekan, K-3PO, C-3PO, R2/ext, Chewie Hoth, 2-1B)
Imps: (Vader, IC & Holo Veers must been adj to Vader)

DN,

Sorry to hear you're under the weather, I hope you get to feeling better quickly.

I really like the indoor/outdoor idea. It would certainly play well with more players. Split up the teams, some doing outdoor fighting, others doing the indoor. Cool man! :)

Yea, you have the question reversed for the Draw fire, no biggie, it may become a moot point with the indoor/outdoor play.

What's your idea for the jabba scenario??

Dennis

I didn't do it.
I'm non-contagious, you can ask my wife!

true that, my friend She's been carrying my a$$ for 27+ years

OK, so here's some questions we need to answer for the BoH this coming Saturday.

We will be doing the battle in two separate scenarios; an outside battle and an inside battle. Here's the questions/points of interest in no particular order:

1. We initially said 1000 points per squad for the outside battle, but with also doing an inside battle we thought we'd lower this number to 800 points per squad. Will this work, or should we stay with 1000 points?

2. For the inside scenario is 250 points good? Or should we try 300?

3. Sould we run the inside scenario at the same time we are running the outside one? Should we wait until the outside one has been going on for a while, or should we wait until the outside scanario is run to run the inside one?

4. Should we randomly determine who's on which side or should we just pick? Also, to run the battles say 6 people show up, 3 would be for the imperials and 3 for the rebels. Within that group of 3, 2 people could run the outside battle and the remaining person run the indoor battle. What do you think?

5. The uniques are as follows:

Outdoor Imperials -
General Veers

Outdoor Rebels -
Lukes Snowspeeder (with Luke Skywalker, Hoth Pilot Unleashed on a roll of >6 if the speeder gets smoked)
Wedge's Snowspeeder (with Wedge Antilles, Red Two on a roll of >6 if his speeder gets smoked)
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Spirit


Indoor Imperials -
Darth Vader, Imperial Commander
General Veers, Hologram - but if General Veers is killed in the outside battle, this character is defeated/can't be used
***Also GV, holo must be adjacent do DV

Indoor Rebels -
Han Solo, rogue
Princess Leia, Hoth Commander
Chewbacca of Hoth
R2-D2 with Extended Sensor
C-3PO
General Rieekan
K-3PO
2-1B

Is everyone cool with only using these uniques? Any additions?

6. For non-uniques, they will be taken from those listed in the original post. Any additions?

7. For the outdoor battle, after some discussion, it is felt that there should only be 2 AT-AT's, everyone cool with this?

8. We will use Echo Base for the indoor map. And 6 maps for the outdoor battle set up in a grid 3x2. Thats 3 maps wide and 2 down. With first row A - B - C and second row D - E - F. Map B will be the power generator. Imperials start on the lower end of maps DEF and the Rebs on the upper half of maps ABC.

9. We've got the uniques and the AT-AT's covered, but we will need people to bring more hoth troopers of all types (elite, regular, imperial, rebel and officers), snowspeeders, gun turrets, e-web blasters, AT-ST's etc, etc AND we will need more hoth maps to help make up the 3x2 map grid.

10. Last but not least, based on the responses to the questions above do we want to g ahead and set up the squads now so we can just show up, set up and start playing Saturday?

Ok, that's it for now. Lee said he didn't have a problem with us moving some tables around Saturday to set up for the battle!

GENERAL VEERS, PREPARE YOUR MEN FOR A SURFACE ATTACK!

yes you are

I AGREE WITH GERRY, FOR HE IS MY FRIEND

So I know that Gerry, Jak and Kreg will be there along with myself this Saturday. Is Joe going to make it? Anyone else? All are welcome!!!