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I've seen the "favorite piece, least favorite piece" threads, but I am curious about something else; what are the top 5 most broken V-set pieces? Broken by being so completely over powered, broken by being so utterly useless and unplayable, and what are your reasons for your opinion?
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Vset 2 Dooku
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Poggle the LesserRapport for Drones? Okay, I guess, because they're useless for anything except activation fodder. Even so, we've already learned that 2pt pieces are a bad idea. .........But SD20? 
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yeah, probably should've been SD10.
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#1 is definitely Poggle the Lesser. 2 point pieces are BAD.
I still really don't like the design concepts behind Bastila, but that's a dead horse that has been beaten far too much.
Set 2 Dooku is pretty bad. He's a very interesting piece, but he contradicts himself too much.
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I think the v-sets are great, but:
Could have been de-powered a bit:
Poggle the Lesser: Self-Destruct 20 is too strong on a 2 point piece, and 2 point pieces aren't a great idea.
Naboo/Panaka - I like the way they play, but they're marginally too powerful for their cost - even losing Panaka's rapport would help.
On the other hand, neither of these are completely broken, as they're susceptible to Disruptive/Bastila
And lost opportunities - interesting pieces that could have been better:
Chewbacca and Ewoks in AT-ST
Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala on Reek
Imperial Triumvirate - hope they have another go at this sometime
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I still (yes, another dead horse beaten far too long) believe that Laranth Tarak was a missed opportunity
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As for missed opportunities, Galen Marek is still my biggest regret. Rebels needed (and still need) a big strong beatstick, and I really wanted him to be it. Unfortunately there were concerns of him being too powerful, which have obviously been proven to be unfounded (Galen is definitely overcosted). It's an example of a single playtester being wrong about a piece, but us designers listening anyway.
Oh well, live and learn.
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Master Thon - expensive, too easy to hinder him.
Force Leap would have helped a lot.
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Echo24 wrote:As for missed opportunities, Galen Marek is still my biggest regret. Rebels needed (and still need) a big strong beatstick, and I really wanted him to be it. Unfortunately there were concerns of him being too powerful, which have obviously been proven to be unfounded (Galen is definitely overcosted). It's an example of a single playtester being wrong about a piece, but us designers listening anyway.
Oh well, live and learn. Sigh, just reread that thread....affinity, blasted you, affinity!
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Echo24 wrote:As for missed opportunities, Galen Marek is still my biggest regret. Rebels needed (and still need) a big strong beatstick, and I really wanted him to be it. Unfortunately there were concerns of him being too powerful, which have obviously been proven to be unfounded (Galen is definitely overcosted). It's an example of a single playtester being wrong about a piece, but us designers listening anyway.
Oh well, live and learn. That can be easily rectified with a good rapport on a new Kota or Juno Eclipse.
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While not all the v-set pieces are perfect, I don't see any point in a thread trying to draw out the worst in it. The designers all work hard on the v-sets and care greatly about this game I'm sure, and do their best. Not everything they put out will be perfect.
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Echo24 wrote:As for missed opportunities, Galen Marek is still my biggest regret. Rebels needed (and still need) a big strong beatstick, and I really wanted him to be it. Unfortunately there were concerns of him being too powerful, which have obviously been proven to be unfounded (Galen is definitely overcosted). It's an example of a single playtester being wrong about a piece, but us designers listening anyway.
Oh well, live and learn. I don't understand how he is over costed. Albeit I play casually, not competitively but speaking as someone who has very little experience with ANY of the v-set characters, I find most of the high costed v-set character to be too powerful and have too many abilities. I would way rather see these pieces be "over costed" or better yet, have less abilities.
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keet fisto wrote:I don't understand how he is over costed. Albeit I play casually, not competitively but speaking as someone who has very little experience with ANY of the v-set characters, I find most of the high costed v-set character to be too powerful and have too many abilities.
I would way rather see these pieces be "over costed" or better yet, have less abilities. The problem in perception is that almost all of the 40+ point pieces from WotC pieces were overcosted - there were a few really good ones like Mara Jade Jedi, GOWK, GGDAC, Yoda on Kybuck, Kyle Kararn JBM, and Lord Vader, but generally the game was dominated by cheaper pieces (especially Rebels) that synergised well together. Now they're getting it right so that there are lots of viable higher point pieces.
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swinefeld wrote:Master Thon - expensive, too easy to hinder him.
Force Leap would have helped a lot.
I think Thon is pretty awesome! Not perfect, and Leap would have helped him, but he can help your squad SO much. That said, I don't like his Proxy.
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Echo24 wrote:As for missed opportunities, Galen Marek is still my biggest regret. Rebels needed (and still need) a big strong beatstick, and I really wanted him to be it. Unfortunately there were concerns of him being too powerful, which have obviously been proven to be unfounded (Galen is definitely overcosted). It's an example of a single playtester being wrong about a piece, but us designers listening anyway.
Oh well, live and learn. I think Galen turned out pretty well. He's not competitively viable but as mm247 said Rapport and/or Camaraderie from a new Juno would fix that up. I also have to say, Galen has got to be one of my favorite sets of stats, ever. He is a blast to use and playing him feels just like playing TFU.
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Rebel Kyle Katarn. Lots of cool things in an overpriced package.
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Others may disagree but one of the few pieces I think didn't turn out very well was the Terentatek from Epic Set 1. 10 base damage kinda ruined a lot of its potential, imo.
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I think the biggest swing and a miss was shimmra. We defiantly need a new version of him.
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Weeks wrote:Rebel Kyle Katarn. Lots of cool things in an overpriced package. I disagree, I have only used him once and dont know much about the character but I thought he was well worth the points.
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