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dreadtech
Posted: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 3:43:44 PM
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I know there are going to be a ton of questions concerning Vset 6, would it be possible to keep them all together at least until sithborg puts up the FAQ for this set.

Ok my question. Vaders No Disintegrations, can you tell us exactly how this works? is it If Boba Fett BH is on your squad you lose Disintegrations if he scores a Crit, or is it your opponent loses this, or both teams?
I know there are other things such as double damage that happen on crits, just asking who is affected by No Disintegrations.
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Everyone is affected by No Disintegrations

The Glossary text

Damage dealt by critical hits cannot be doubled or tripled. Commander effects and special abilities that trigger based on a critical hit or the attack number rolled are suppressed, such as Disintegration, Flurry Attack, or the commander effect from Asajj Ventress, Strike Leader.

markedman247
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Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 5:53:16 PM
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markedman247 wrote:
Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?


It was such a pain in the ass to make sure to include Lightsaber or Lightsaber Force Powers when designing that I made the following adjustment in the Floor Rules to help out:

• For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has the Lightsaber Special Ability, a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.
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Shee Visla has Jedi Hatred can it be used with her abilities that replace attack i.e. flame thrower and missiles. I kinda doubt you can but I was unsure.
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pastorbudwine@mac.com wrote:
Shee Visla has Jedi Hatred can it be used with her abilities that replace attack i.e. flame thrower and missiles. I kinda doubt you can but I was unsure.


A bonus to damage is added to the character's base damage, which is only used for attacks. A bonus that modifies the damage dealt by an ability would explicitly say so.
markedman247
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Durge on Speeder mentions "Vehicle: Replace with a medium or smaller." Since Durge only has two versions: Large and Medium. This eliminates CS Durge. Is this intentional (all Vehicles) or an oversight?
dreadtech
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markedman247 wrote:
Durge on Speeder mentions "Vehicle: Replace with a medium or smaller." Since Durge only has two versions: Large and Medium. This eliminates CS Durge. Is this intentional (all Vehicles) or an oversight?


I would say intentional, however there might be other Durge's in futures sets that can be used.
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Here is a question: Since Admiral Daala can give Spacetrooper Charging Fire +10 (Replaces turn: Can move up to double speed, then make an attack at +10 Damage) can he use that SA when he has Heavy Weapon? (Can't attack and move in the same turn) Even though they probably wont be a good combo since the Spacetrooper is just out of her price range.
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Deathwielded wrote:
Here is a question: Since Admiral Daala can give Spacetrooper Charging Fire +10 (Replaces turn: Can move up to double speed, then make an attack at +10 Damage) can he use that SA when he has Heavy Weapon? (Can't attack and move in the same turn) Even though they probably wont be a good combo since the Spacetrooper is just out of her price range.


No.
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Deathwielded wrote:
Here is a question: Since Admiral Daala can give Spacetrooper Charging Fire +10 (Replaces turn: Can move up to double speed, then make an attack at +10 Damage) can he use that SA when he has Heavy Weapon? (Can't attack and move in the same turn) Even though they probably wont be a good combo since the Spacetrooper is just out of her price range.


The Spacetrooper is affected by it (he's a trooper), but he is unable to use it as Heavy Weapon hindrance supersedes the CE's use. That's been in play since Stormin' Han (A&E).
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I didn't think so thanks! Smile
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dreadtech wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Durge on Speeder mentions "Vehicle: Replace with a medium or smaller." Since Durge only has two versions: Large and Medium. This eliminates CS Durge. Is this intentional (all Vehicles) or an oversight?


I would say intentional, however there might be other Durge's in futures sets that can be used.


Pretty much.

Note that if Large was allowed, you would be able to switch Maul/Grievous with their older versions, which goes against the concept of them hopping off their vehicles to fight.
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swinefeld wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Durge on Speeder mentions "Vehicle: Replace with a medium or smaller." Since Durge only has two versions: Large and Medium. This eliminates CS Durge. Is this intentional (all Vehicles) or an oversight?


I would say intentional, however there might be other Durge's in futures sets that can be used.


Pretty much.

Note that if Large was allowed, you would be able to switch Maul/Grievous with their older versions, which goes against the concept of them hopping off their vehicles to fight.


This was actually the main thing. We didn't want the new Grievous on Wheel Bike using Vehicle to switch out for the old Grievous on Wheelbike; it just didn't make any sense.
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Echo24 wrote:
swinefeld wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Durge on Speeder mentions "Vehicle: Replace with a medium or smaller." Since Durge only has two versions: Large and Medium. This eliminates CS Durge. Is this intentional (all Vehicles) or an oversight?


I would say intentional, however there might be other Durge's in futures sets that can be used.


Pretty much.

Note that if Large was allowed, you would be able to switch Maul/Grievous with their older versions, which goes against the concept of them hopping off their vehicles to fight.


This was actually the main thing. We didn't want the new Grievous on Wheel Bike using Vehicle to switch out for the old Grievous on Wheelbike; it just didn't make any sense.


More or less a safeguard. Grievous has several versions where Durge has 2.
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?


It was such a pain in the ass to make sure to include Lightsaber or Lightsaber Force Powers when designing that I made the following adjustment in the Floor Rules to help out:

• For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has the Lightsaber Special Ability, a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.


So, this would be a "no", correct?
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Chargers wrote:
The Celestial Warrior wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?


It was such a pain in the ass to make sure to include Lightsaber or Lightsaber Force Powers when designing that I made the following adjustment in the Floor Rules to help out:

• For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has the Lightsaber Special Ability, a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.


So, this would be a "no", correct?


Funny, on my card, he has a lightsaber in his image...
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:


Funny, on my card, he has a lightsaber in his image...


So yes, Alto does have a lightsaber.

I understand the wording now. See the Dathomiri Witch. On the card, the lightsaber has been cropped out, but the RM itself has a lightsaber. The Witch does not have a lightsaber as the card does not meet the criteria, even though the RM (without modding) does.
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Chargers wrote:
The Celestial Warrior wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?


It was such a pain in the ass to make sure to include Lightsaber or Lightsaber Force Powers when designing that I made the following adjustment in the Floor Rules to help out:

• For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has the Lightsaber Special Ability, a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.


So, this would be a "no", correct?


Funny, on my card, he has a lightsaber in his image...


swinefeld wrote:
The Celestial Warrior wrote:


Funny, on my card, he has a lightsaber in his image...


So yes, Alto does have a lightsaber.

I understand the wording now. See the Dathomiri Witch. On the card, the lightsaber has been cropped out, but the RM itself has a lightsaber. The Witch does not have a lightsaber as the card does not meet the criteria, even though the RM (without modding) does.


Gotcha. It took some rereading Celestial's definition:

For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has:
a. the Lightsaber Special Ability NO
b. a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” NO
c. or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. YES
d. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.
(This sentence confused me on the first reading.)

If a, b, or c is true, then Lightsaber. If a, b, and c are not true, then d is true.
And c keeps the old definition that a visible lightsaber counts in addition for a fig that didn't have the colored blade.
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Is Alto Stratus supposed to have a Lightsaber?


It was such a pain in the ass to make sure to include Lightsaber or Lightsaber Force Powers when designing that I made the following adjustment in the Floor Rules to help out:

• For the purpose of counting as having a lightsaber refer to the stat card. If the card has the Lightsaber Special Ability, a Force Power with the word “lightsaber” or the card image itself depicts a lightsaber then the figure is considered to have a lightsaber. In the case of a minature (including Recommended miniature) having a lightsaber but not meeting the above criteria then it is not counted as having a lightsaber.


But the problem is that if you look at his wookiepedia page it looks rather obvious that he shouldn't have a lightsaber for any reason. He is not a force user and therefore has none of the other trademarks of having a lightsaber.

It appears that the image depicted on the card was a mistake and he should have had the lightsaber removed.

Can a designer please chime in and clarify. Its an easy (although unfortunate) errata if that is the way it needs to go. I would hate for him to have to continue on w/ a lightsaber if he really isn't supposed to have one.
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