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droidadmiral
Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:44:01 PM
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Ok, come on might as well get this started now because once his stats are spilled, hopefully soon! We will need to have a spot just for Bane! The greatest of them all.Woot
scruffyhan
Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:13:38 PM
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Don't hold your breath, they will probably post his card on Gamers and no one will ever see it.
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:34:44 PM
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scruffyhan wrote:
Don't hold your breath, they will probably post his card on Gamers and no one will ever see it.


It's Deri's baby, but I'd love to convince him of such.
scruffyhan
Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:48:15 PM
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So Deri designed him, that's interesting.
Deathwielded
Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:23:34 PM
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scruffyhan wrote:
Don't hold your breath, they will probably post his card on Gamers and no one will ever see it.

Lol I know the feeling, though now that I have a SWMgamers account I find the spoilers really easily. Bloomilk is still WAY better though. (if only Shinja was more active...)

I must say I am super exited about the new BaneThumbsUp
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:05:20 AM
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These are not his stats:

Cost 93

Hit Points 200
Defense 21
Attack +16
Damage 30

Special Abilities
Unique. Melee Attack; Twin Attack

Jedi Hunter [+4 Attack and +10 Damage against an enemy with a force rating]

Soresu Style Mastery (When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)

Force Powers
Force 4. Force Renewal 2; Master of the Force 3

Lightsaber Assault [Force 1, replaces attacks: Make 2 attacks]

Master Speed [Force 1: This character can move 6 extra squares on his turn as part of his move]

Sith Rage 2 [Force 2: +20 Damage on all attacks this turn]

Sith Sorcery [Force 2, usable only on this character's turn: Enemy characters within 6 squares are considered activated this round; save 11]



Would that make all the fansboys happy? ThumbDown
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:09:06 AM
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Just having a little fun here. Sorry if the above stats excited anyone - I think they are crap. No creativity, no balance - just a bunch of abilities thrown together.

The actual stats are much better. (Note: better doesn't always mean more powerful)
DieAndBeMetal
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:59:17 AM
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That bane with zannah would be hell. HELL.
droidadmiral
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:17:00 AM
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come on stats!!! i want to use him in my playgroups next get together, (Monday). I want to kill EVERYTHING!!!! Although, since i don't know what this bane does that might be a wish i don't get answered.
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:56:29 AM
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DieAndBeMetal wrote:
That bane with zannah would be hell. HELL.


Zannah Schmannah. Try that ridiculous made up Bane with Revan, SL
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:56:54 AM
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droidadmiral wrote:
come on stats!!! i want to use him in my playgroups next get together, (Monday). I want to kill EVERYTHING!!!! Although, since i don't know what this bane does that might be a wish i don't get answered.


Yeah, this Bane is not a typical beatstick, we went with a more apprentice version, when he is with the Brotherhood of Darkness...
thereisnotry
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:57:17 AM
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Oh, it'll get answered all right...maybe not at your next get-together (I don't know when his stats will be released), but your wish will definitely get answered. He's a monster...MON-ster!
droidadmiral
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 12:58:27 PM
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
droidadmiral wrote:
come on stats!!! i want to use him in my playgroups next get together, (Monday). I want to kill EVERYTHING!!!! Although, since i don't know what this bane does that might be a wish i don't get answered.


Yeah, this Bane is not a typical beatstick, we went with a more apprentice version, when he is with the Brotherhood of Darkness...



that is fine i have read the books and he destroyed people there, so it will be all good lol.
scruffyhan
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:22:23 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
These are not his stats:

Cost 93

Hit Points 200
Defense 21
Attack +16
Damage 30

Special Abilities
Unique. Melee Attack; Twin Attack

Jedi Hunter [+4 Attack and +10 Damage against an enemy with a force rating]

Soresu Style Mastery (When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)

Force Powers
Force 4. Force Renewal 2; Master of the Force 3

Lightsaber Assault [Force 1, replaces attacks: Make 2 attacks]

Master Speed [Force 1: This character can move 6 extra squares on his turn as part of his move]

Sith Rage 2 [Force 2: +20 Damage on all attacks this turn]

Sith Sorcery [Force 2, usable only on this character's turn: Enemy characters within 6 squares are considered activated this round; save 11]



Would that make all the fansboys happy? ThumbDown


With the exception of Soresu Mastery (which makes no sense in any universe) that's the kind of Bane I was expecting. Clunky, useless, over priced. Sorry I don't have more optimism when it comes to Vset Designers and Sith Beats, they are nine times out of ten overpriced and go to a special shelf where they are never seen from again, see Marka Ragnos, Lord Krayt, etc. I am however holding out hope that you deliver on the Sith'ari.

Then again, I know that just because he was the Sith'ari, doesn't mean he received special attention...See Anikan, Chosen One.
saber1
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:22:42 PM
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scruffyhan wrote:

With the exception of Soresu Mastery (which makes no sense in any universe) that's the kind of Bane I was expecting. Clunky, useless, over priced. Sorry I don't have more optimism when it comes to Vset Designers and Sith Beats, they are nine times out of ten overpriced and go to a special shelf where they are never seen from again, see Marka Ragnos, Lord Krayt, etc. I am however holding out hope that you deliver on the Sith'ari.

Then again, I know that just because he was the Sith'ari, doesn't mean he received special attention...See Anikan, Chosen One.


If for every Lord Krayt we get a Darth Caedus SL or Darth Malgus, I'd say that's a pretty good average.
scruffyhan
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:25:02 PM
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saber1 wrote:
scruffyhan wrote:

With the exception of Soresu Mastery (which makes no sense in any universe) that's the kind of Bane I was expecting. Clunky, useless, over priced. Sorry I don't have more optimism when it comes to Vset Designers and Sith Beats, they are nine times out of ten overpriced and go to a special shelf where they are never seen from again, see Marka Ragnos, Lord Krayt, etc. I am however holding out hope that you deliver on the Sith'ari.

Then again, I know that just because he was the Sith'ari, doesn't mean he received special attention...See Anikan, Chosen One.


If for every Lord Krayt we get a Darth Caedus SL or Darth Malgus, I'd say that's a pretty good average.


I guess you have a point. In 6 Vsets, we have got two useful Sith Lords, out of the countless garbage pieces. You are right, I would say that's a good average.
saber1
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:29:56 PM
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Or Darth Revan SL. Or Bastila Shan FJ. Or Darth Maul SI. Or Darth Zannah. Or Juggernaut.
Galactic Funk
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:37:11 PM
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scruffyhan wrote:
Clunky, useless, over priced. Sorry I don't have more optimism when it comes to Vset Designers and Sith Beats, they are nine times out of ten overpriced and go to a special shelf where they are never seen from again, see Marka Ragnos, Lord Krayt, etc.


You mean the Lord Krayt that made the top 8 at Gencon this past year? Maybe you're doing it wrong....


In all seriousness though your negativity does seem to be a bit over the top even if there is something of a valid point in there.
scruffyhan
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:53:03 PM
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saber1 wrote:
Or Darth Revan SL. Or Bastila Shan FJ. Or Darth Maul SI. Or Darth Zannah. Or Juggernaut.


Revan Sith Lord is a great piece, Maul is a sep with affinity.

Bastila, what is she even doing in the Sith faction? I guess being Malak's apprentice for 5 minutes makes you more of a Sith than Darth Vader?

Zannah, if you think she is a well designed piece perhaps you should have your head checked, Soresu Mastery, AND Lightsaber Combat Expert!? I know, lets give her Avoid Defeat as well because the other two abilities are not NPE's or anything.

And the Juggernaut is non unique, doesn't count.
saber1
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:53:45 PM
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By my count, there are 19 Sith Vset characters with a cost of 40 or more. That's a pretty loose definition of "beat stick", but its an easy cutoff point. Of 19 possibilities, I easily count 7 that are very good. Including The Phantom Menace and Exar Kun DLotS that number goes up to nine. 9 of 19 equals a batting average that would send any ball player to the Hall of Fame. I think an arguement can be made for 1 or 2 more being quite good pieces as well.

Now, I'll stipulate that Lord Krayt is a bit too expensive and Marka Ragnos is...debatable. I understand your dislike of some pieces, which can be discouraging in a game one enjoys (I don't like MR2 working for the defender with Djem So). I just posted my thoughts to show that things likely aren't as bad as you think.
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