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V-Set 11: Long Time Ago is officially released today, along with its subset, Far Far Away. (OPENING CRAWL - click begin)During the design of Long Time Ago, we were aware that it would be the last set designed before The Force Awakens was released. With that in mind, and with the change to the EU, we chose a nostalgia set. The idea was to look at the canon as it existed before the prequels were released. Some of the factions didn't even exist at the time, but for the ones that did more than half of the pieces come from the canon of 1999 or earlier: the original trilogy, Tales of the Jedi comics, the ewok movies, and some of the early EU novels. Some names were inspired by Kenner action figures (e.g. Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)) or Decipher CCG cards (e.g. Brainiac, Son of Skywalker). Far Far Away is really just a part of Long Time Ago where the Tatooine aliens are collected together. In terms of gameplay, I think three main aspects stand out: * Shooter defense. There are multiple pieces that have strong defense against shooters but virtually no defense against melee. * Bonuses for having fewer activations. Odan-Urr, Queen Amanoa, and Son of Skywalker all offer explicit bonuses for being out-activated, which is traditionally a big disadvantage. * New squad types. While there are plenty of pieces that fit into existing roles and familiar squad types, there are at least five brand new squad types to explore (including 3 new subfactions). Darth Vader of Lothal can pair with one of the Palpatines to form a new type of Imperial squad that doesn't use Daala or Thrawn. Son of Skywalker's Our Last Hope introduces a new twist when facing a squad where he is massively out-activated, and when paired with Lando and Han it encourages squadbuilding with just Rebel-Uniques. Bib Fortuna, Majordomo is the feature piece for a Hutt Cartel squad that utilizes a new movement breaker. Prince Isolder, Hapan Loyalists, and Tenel Ka make up a new Hapan subfaction. The Chiss Ascendancy Commander offers a new movement breaker for a Chiss subfaction squad. Four questions for everyone about Vset 11. What piece(s) are you most looking forward to playing? What piece(s) do you think will have the biggest impact in the competitive game? What was your biggest want that showed up in the set? What was your biggest want that didn't show up in the set? http://swmgamers.com/SWM/V-setMain.htmlhttp://swmgamers.com/PDF/V-sets/Set11_LTA_FFA.pdf
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I'll answer my own questions first. FlyingArrow wrote:What piece(s) are you most looking forward to playing? Son of Skywalker and Bib Fortuna, Majordomo. I don't know if either will wind up tier 1, but I think their movement is fun. Quote:What piece(s) do you think will have the biggest impact in the competitive game? Queen Amanoa and Darth Vader of Lothal, for completely different reasons. Quote:What was your biggest want that showed up in the set? Artoo and Threepio. I think the characters should be played together, but the previous pieces never had much synergy together. If this works as intended, Artoo will typically be played with an old C-3PO. And Threepio will be played with an old R2-D2. Only rarely would both new versions be played together. Quote:What was your biggest want that didn't show up in the set? I still want to see a Hex Droid (fastbreeder).
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What piece(s) are you most looking forward to playing? the new Han Solo. I've wanted a good Han Solo that could cancel init control for a while now. glad we have one now that is good!
What piece(s) do you think will have the biggest impact in the competitive game? Queen Amanoa since she takes out a lot of the effectiveness of the outactivate and smash squads, which were dominanat last year.
What was your biggest want that showed up in the set? a Vader that formed the basis of a new playstyle. . What was your biggest want that didn't show up in the set? Still would like to see Han Solo's original sidekick Muuurgh in miniatures form. That just me tho. I loved reading about him in the books!
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keeper of whyllis or w/e with bounty hunter challenge luke is a thought.
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What piece(s) are you most looking forward to playing? Revan! I love the 100 point pieces and their style of play. I also think the Chiss/Hutts/Hapans are interesting
What piece(s) do you think will have the biggest impact in the competitive game? Son of Skywalker and Queen Amanoa as well as potentially the Chiss Fleet Officer in Karrde squads
What was your biggest want that showed up in the set? Haor Chall Engineer, I'm really tempted to bring a huge team to regionals this year... Haha just hopefully a good map list
What was your biggest want that didn't show up in the set? A cheap Grievous with prideful for battle droids I would even take an epic or BHC Grievous too...
Just kidding I always want that
It's definitely ABELOTH! She definitely qualifies as one that fits the theme of the "old canon" and I'm waiting to see a 200 point mini that can hold her own against any squad (I.e. My reserves piece idea) but I'll keep waiting.....
Cool job on be new set though!
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General_Grievous wrote:
It's definitely ABELOTH! She definitely qualifies as one that fits the theme of the "old canon"...
Not even close. She was written within the last 10 years.
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What piece(s) are you most looking forward to playing? Vader of Lothal, Colonel Jacen Solo, Revan Returned What piece(s) do you think will have the biggest impact in the competitive game? Dovin Basal Keeper, Vader of Lothal, Queen Amanoa What was your biggest want that showed up in the set? Warb Null, asked for him in the past and seeing him now...well worth the wait! What was your biggest want that didn't show up in the set? Ziton Moj Black Sun Captain, of Darth Maul's Shadow Collective. Death Watch & Black Sun... .
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:General_Grievous wrote:
It's definitely ABELOTH! She definitely qualifies as one that fits the theme of the "old canon"...
Not even close. She was written within the last 10 years. But canon wise she's one of the oldest beings in the galaxy, riposte? Haha I hear your point though
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And +1 to the death watch/black sun idea We really need a shadow collective Maul
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I wonder if Revan would make sense with Lando and Dice to get GMA.
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FlyingArrow wrote:I wonder if Revan would make sense with Lando and Dice to get GMA. I'd probably go Dice, Luke RC, Leia RC, Momaw. Very expensive though.
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It's +10dmg and a movement breaker. Seems a lot easier to just go with Talon for about the same thing. I don't know if he can get GMA so easily anywhere else.
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Either way a 100 point fringe piece is epic and awesome for the potential options. Bring on more BHC style pieces haha. Grievous, Han, Fett, Jango, Jedis.
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FlyingArrow wrote:I wonder if Revan would make sense with Lando and Dice to get GMA. Who the heck is dice?
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Quote:Dice Ibegon Rebel 1/9 Cost: 29
HP: 60 Def: 16 Atk: 8 Dam: 20
Special Abilities Unique. Double Attack
Poisoned Blade 10 [+10 Damage to 1 adjacent target; this counts as a melee attack. This attack deals an extra 10 Damage to a living enemy; save 11.]
Rapport [A character whose name contains Lak Sivrak costs 1 less when in the same squad as this character]
Rebel Conscription [All characters in your squad are considered Rebel for the rest of the skirmish]
Force Powers Force 4
Aing-Tii Flow-Walking [Force 3: Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can take an immediate turn. This does not count as activating the character this round.]
Dice was a female Lamproid and recruiter for the Rebel Alliance. She was rumored to have the ability to shift through time.
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FlyingArrow wrote:Quote:Dice Ibegon Rebel 1/9 Cost: 29
HP: 60 Def: 16 Atk: 8 Dam: 20
Special Abilities Unique. Double Attack
Poisoned Blade 10 [+10 Damage to 1 adjacent target; this counts as a melee attack. This attack deals an extra 10 Damage to a living enemy; save 11.]
Rapport [A character whose name contains Lak Sivrak costs 1 less when in the same squad as this character]
Rebel Conscription [All characters in your squad are considered Rebel for the rest of the skirmish]
Force Powers Force 4
Aing-Tii Flow-Walking [Force 3: Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can take an immediate turn. This does not count as activating the character this round.]
Dice was a female Lamproid and recruiter for the Rebel Alliance. She was rumored to have the ability to shift through time. very nice piece
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I do think she's too expensive to have an impact on the 200 point competitive game. She might come into play in Epics or something.
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You really have to have a good target/use for Rebel Conscription for her to be useful. As a combatant she's probably 10 points overcosted.
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What are the best Rebel specific CEs?
Princess Leia, Rebel Commando - +10 damage Princess Leia - cannon shot Artoo - +2 attack Chief of State Mon Mothma - +1 a/d There might be an OK Chiss Trooper squad where he gets Twin, Mobile, and Evade.
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