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Uhh... I hate winning the CCC, it means I have to actually think about what'll be next.
Anyway, this week you must create a character who only appeared in one movie/ book series/ etc and then was never seen again before or after that appearance. Those unlucky few who never got to come back in other material to expand on their story. They are allowed to have been mentioned in other stories, but they should have been in only one. And no, it can't be that one stormtrooper that took a shot at Luke in A New Hope, it should be an actual character. Sorry if that's a bit boring, I'm not great at CCC ideas, but it should give you a shot at creating characters that haven't been done before.
1. You may update any existing versions you already have and/or create a new one. You may update/create several versions of the character but you must ultimately select 1 you wish to run with. (this must be done by the schedule below)
2. Place a hyperlink in this forum to make it easier to find your character. You can just post the stats or image here but if changes are needed it would be easier (and save space) if you just used a Hyperlink (If you don't know how to post Hyperlinks in a forum setting please ask and we will help you. It's not hard )
3. Voting works as follows, pick your three favorite customs based on accuracy to the character, design, balance or whatever you decide makes the best incarnation of the challenge character. First place receives 3 points, 2nd place receives 2 points, and 3rd place receives 1 point.
4. You do not have to enter the contest in order to vote. But unless you enter you must have at least 10 forum posts.
5. To make things fair you must vote in order to win the contest. Try to give feedback if possible to help designers out. You must choose three characters entered in the contest and you may not rate or vote for your own character.
6. The winner will be decided by how many points they receive. Ties will be broken by most 1st place votes, then if still tied, 2nd place votes and then 3rd place votes. If still tied, then the outcome is a tie.
7. You may not change or update the entered character AFTER the deadline.
You will have until Sat, April 21th, 2018 @8pm EST to get your submissions in. Anything submitted after this point will not be included in the voting.
Voting will start at 8pm on Saturday evening and end at 11pm EST on Monday, April 23th, 2018. At the conclusion of the voting the scores will be tallied and the winner will start a new topic with their choice of theme.
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I edited the criteria slightly. They were a bit too restrictive at first. Anyway, here's my entry: http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/32045/oryon
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This guy makes an appearance in the book Revan, at 3 years old. No other sources are in the Wookiepedia, but it does give a slight future of what he does. So, here he is. http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/32046/vaner-shan
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I might polish up either; Siri Tachi or Tahl.
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I choose to delve deep into the old canon, and I have chosen a character who was intended to be more major, but thanks to executive meddling, never got to shine much past her original appearance. From the Ewoks cartoon, Princess Asha: http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/32047/asha--the-red-ghostOne interesting thing I discovered as I was researching things, is that she actually got recanonized from a minor mention in the new children's novelizations of the original trilogy, where she ambushed an Imperial commander and stabbed him in the throat.
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Sorry, Kid #2 finished his Fireman's Probation and moved up tp Permanent. The ceremony was out of town. On to other things. Liash Keane, TechnocratFar as I can tell, she's only been in Scum and Villiany, the RPG Resource book (I assume this falls under Etc.) I made her 7 years ago, cleaned her up. PS - The "Shadowport" ability is just a sub-faction I created. EDIT - As I pointed out to GG, Techno is specifically Not included, just Tech's and Technician's. Cheers, surf
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Surf I would probably go either override or the master slicer for the boost, and the affinity may need to be cleaned up because currently Watch Tambor TECHno Union Foreman can be in any squad. Actually that's awesome, if very unthematic haha scratch that suggestion. Same problem for the non-unique techno union grunts and Bao-Dur Tech Specialist. I think making it non-Unique techs/technicians would help with the worst continuity errors. Otherwise looks good and nice boost to some awful tech pieces!
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Until I feel more creative here is one I have been trying to get into the game for years now, she starred in a handheld only video game for the PSP/DS and was a very unique pairing and cool way to play the game for a very Kyle Katarn-like character: http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/25182/rihanna-saren-and-zeeo
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Hmmm... Unless I can think of someone else obscure that I'd be interested in making a custom of. I believe I have 3 "unused" for CCC customs that fit the bill: Trench (According to the wook - mentioned in Tarkin, but only appeared in the Clone Wars) Riff Tamson (He got 3 back to back (to back) Clone Wars episodes then nothing (sure he was dead, but he could have had a back story, etc.)...) Edit: That is definitely one thing I disliked about the Clone Wars they would introduce interesting "bad guys" just to kill them off... so much waste. or one that's WAY out there Tar Monevv (Created for WOTC's Pre-Saga RPG in the Ultimate Adversaries guide - so no "official" appearances other than that) I'll remove the hyperlinks of the non-entries once I figure out which one.
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General_Grievous wrote:Surf I would probably go either override or the master slicer for the boost, and the affinity may need to be cleaned up because currently Watch Tambor TECHno Union Foreman can be in any squad. Actually that's awesome, if very unthematic haha scratch that suggestion. Same problem for the non-unique techno union grunts and Bao-Dur Tech Specialist. I think making it non-Unique techs/technicians would help with the worst continuity errors. Otherwise looks good and nice boost to some awful tech pieces! Currently, there are 14 characters with "Tech" in their name, non-unique takes out Wat and Bao, and I wasted card space (and you know how I feel on That) specifically saying non-unique characters named tech or technician, Not Techno (to eliminate the Techno Union specifically.) Re: Master Splicer and Override, none of the characters that would get it cost more than 15 and have 30 hp's or less; they get shot, they die. A total of 10 characters qualify for this from five different factions; it opens up some interesting things to a wider group. I thought about this very carefully years ago to cover Exactly your concerns and actually lost a few things I wanted to include because card space was chewed up for your reasons, but oh well. Yeah it Does give out two abilities that are otherwise hard to get, but Liash specifically sought out High Tech people for her Epsis syndicate and High End Tech's Should be able to do those things ... and she ain't cheap either .....
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I know your all missing my under costed, to many ability, characters. so, here's this weeks entry............ http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/32049/ganarho
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http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/25134/derrown--exterminatorI only know of him from the Clone Wars shown 3 episodes or so. "The Box" and stuff. When Obi-wan was acting like a Bounty hunter.
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surf_rider56 wrote:General_Grievous wrote:Surf I would probably go either override or the master slicer for the boost, and the affinity may need to be cleaned up because currently Watch Tambor TECHno Union Foreman can be in any squad. Actually that's awesome, if very unthematic haha scratch that suggestion. Same problem for the non-unique techno union grunts and Bao-Dur Tech Specialist. I think making it non-Unique techs/technicians would help with the worst continuity errors. Otherwise looks good and nice boost to some awful tech pieces! Currently, there are 14 characters with "Tech" in their name, non-unique takes out Wat and Bao, and I wasted card space (and you know how I feel on That) specifically saying non-unique characters named tech or technician, Not Techno (to eliminate the Techno Union specifically.) Actually, your ability says whose name "contains tech or technicians" Which is redundant because Technician contains tech so it is wasted card space. Unless your wanting to change the word "contains" to "named", in which case they would have to be named that. Master Slicer and Ovveride being handed out I disagree with. Handing out OR is asking for a slow paced, lock out style game which is never fun. And Mass Rapport 3 is pretty huge, imo. Yes, no one currently will break the game, but this would hinder any design of any character with tech or technician, imo.
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shmi15 wrote:surf_rider56 wrote:General_Grievous wrote:Surf I would probably go either override or the master slicer for the boost, and the affinity may need to be cleaned up because currently Watch Tambor TECHno Union Foreman can be in any squad. Actually that's awesome, if very unthematic haha scratch that suggestion. Same problem for the non-unique techno union grunts and Bao-Dur Tech Specialist. I think making it non-Unique techs/technicians would help with the worst continuity errors. Otherwise looks good and nice boost to some awful tech pieces! Currently, there are 14 characters with "Tech" in their name, non-unique takes out Wat and Bao, and I wasted card space (and you know how I feel on That) specifically saying non-unique characters named tech or technician, Not Techno (to eliminate the Techno Union specifically.) Actually, your ability says whose name "contains tech or technicians" Which is redundant because Technician contains tech so it is wasted card space. Unless your wanting to change the word "contains" to "named", in which case they would have to be named that. Indeed. Semantics/proper English structure was never my strong suit .... fixed ..... shmi15 wrote:Master Slicer and Ovveride being handed out I disagree with. Handing out OR is asking for a slow paced, lock out style game which is never fun. And Mass Rapport 3 is pretty huge, imo. Yes, no one currently will break the game, but this would hinder any design of any character with tech or technician, imo. Ah ... this is going to lead to a discussion on game mechanics vs Custom building. This CCC never said it had to be, for want of a better term, "V-Set ready" and usable to drop into a game. Would locking things up make the game slow down? Yes, but how many of these guys do you need in a group? R7 is cheap and just as easily accessible. As you said, nothings going to "break" the game, Liash is Not cheap so I don't see the big deal out of this; again, how many Techs Do you need in your squad before they become redundant and a liability?
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surf_rider56 wrote:Sorry, Kid #2 finished his Fireman's Probation and moved up tp Permanent. The ceremony was out of town. On to other things. Liash Keane, TechnocratFar as I can tell, she's only been in Scum and Villiany, the RPG Resource book (I assume this falls under Etc.) I made her 7 years ago, cleaned her up. PS - The "Shadowport" ability is just a sub-faction I created. EDIT - As I pointed out to GG, Techno is specifically Not included, just Tech's and Technician's. Cheers, surf I'm going to throw in my thoughts on this character. First, Independent Outfit seems a bit redundant on a Fringe character. You probably have it there because the character gives it out, but usually when an ability doesn't fit gameplay-wise on a character that gives it out, you define the ability in the Camaraderie/ etc. That's the established rule I think- it isn't very important but it just feels weird to have IO for Fringe. Second, I think it's an improvement that it can no longer bring Wat Tambor, TFU and Bao-dur, TS into any faction (which it could before- only your Camaraderie specified non-unique IIRC, not the Affinity) but it seems that in doing so you have inadvertently made it so that the Affinity and the Camaraderie both affect no characters at all. This is because a stipulation of "named" in SWM means that the name of the character must be the right name exactly, not a letter different. And there are no characters named Tech or Technician- only 14 whose names contain Tech or Technician. Lastly, I do think the Camaraderie and Rapport is a bit too much (or at least it would be if it actually affected the characters you wanted it to affect). Liash is a pretty solid shooter on her own with Talon- maybe not 35 points good, but not too bad- the problem comes when you start adding in 3-point Ugnaught Techs with Override, Master Slicer, Industrial Repair 10 and Repair 10. I think that might be a bit much. Not really broken with this character at 35 points, but just a little too much to give to a 3 point character.
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surf_rider56 wrote:Liash Keane, Technocrat
First drop Independent Outfit - See Booster Terrick as a precedent. Second I would say raise the minimum for the Technicians subject to Affinity, considering what bonuses they get from Camaraderie I would actually say drop Affinity altogether, but at least raise that minimum. Third Accounting for the first 2 points it looks good, but the unwritten rule is you always need 3 points right?
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Lord_Ball wrote: surf_rider56 wrote:Liash Keane, Technocrat
First drop Independent Outfit - See Booster Terrick as a precedent. IO is there simply because he gives it out and I'm adverse to giving something that the character doesn't have himself, but I see Gandalf's and your point on it .... Lord_Ball wrote:Second I would say raise the minimum for the Technicians subject to Affinity, considering what bonuses they get from Camaraderie I would actually say drop Affinity altogether, but at least raise that minimum. Third Accounting for the first 2 points it looks good, but the unwritten rule is you always need 3 points right?
I made it costing more than 4 to exclude the Mon Cal Tech, but even 3 less the Uggie would still only cost 4 and at 10 hp he'd die in a heartbeat. The reason I have Affinity is to bring in the 4 non-Fringe Techs/Technicians (which is why he hands out IO.) I could make it "costing more than 7" but would excluding the Ugg be That big a deal?? Camaraderie hands out four abilities; Shadowport is my sub-faction and doesn't Touch anything official, IO only affects 4 characters. Is having Override & Master Slicer That big a deal with characters that have almost No D or HP?? Again, R& is so cheap and a character that has 10-30 HP having Master Slicer can't do much damage by itself that two characters with a way to go through the door couldn't do .... PS - There are unwritten rules in the CCC?????? (Besides fitting onto a card I mean )
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surf_rider56 wrote:Lord_Ball wrote: surf_rider56 wrote:Liash Keane, Technocrat
First drop Independent Outfit - See Booster Terrick as a precedent. IO is there simply because he gives it out and I'm adverse to giving something that the character doesn't have himself, but I see Gandalf's and your point on it .... Normally I would agree, but with Booster as a precedent... surf_rider56 wrote: I made it costing more than 4 to exclude the Mon Cal Tech, but even 3 less the Uggie would still only cost 4 and at 10 hp he'd die in a heartbeat. The reason I have Affinity is to bring in the 4 non-Fringe Techs/Technicians (which is why he hands out IO.) I could make it "costing more than 7" but would excluding the Ugg be That big a deal?? Camaraderie hands out four abilities; Shadowport is my sub-faction and doesn't Touch anything official, IO only affects 4 characters. Is having Override & Master Slicer That big a deal with characters that have almost No D or HP?? Again, R& is so cheap and a character that has 10-30 HP having Master Slicer can't do much damage by itself that two characters with a way to go through the door couldn't do ....
With the stats and everything it would gain how does the Uggie Tech come out on your cost calculator? It's feels like it's overloading a "4 point" character (which would actually include the Mon Cal in that statement) perhaps just a -1/-2 for the Affinity along with a cost raise (6? to still leave a window for future cheap Tech characters). surf_rider56 wrote:PS - There are unwritten rules in the CCC?????? (Besides fitting onto a card I mean ) Well that one isn't exclusive to the CCC
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