ok so i can't seem to run a poll like this on gamers but as i see it this is a pretty important issue for this game moving forward.

SSM is obviously not going anywhere, the next 3 sets have probably been created seeing as Rob was usually working 3 sets ahead and seeing as he isn't there now the next few advertised sets are probably made, and probably designed with SSM in mind.

So we have another new Obi with SSM and one of the main critisisms of GOWK was not the combination of abilities but of SSM itself. The fact that it exisits on a second figure makes it hard to keep a wrap on SSM by keeping GOWK banned unless the competitive game becomes increasingly restrictive.

However, the outcry against the new obi is failry muted and many people seem happy with him so i'd like to find out what people are actually thinking.

Personally, i'm at a point where the game is becoming so increasingly save based to the point where SSM really doesn't bother me much. The MOTF2 on GOWK does and always has bothered me particulally as there is no reason for him to have it. The fact that this obi doesn't have MOTF2 reinforces me that this is the way forward.

However, i am one man so i want to know what you lot think.

I like the new Obi. SSM isnt a problem. Ive never heard of anyone complaing about Jarael. She has both Evade and Parry. I think with the limited number of force points and no way of giving renewal in Republic, he shouldnt be a problem.

yeah, I like it on the new obi, seems fair. Powerful, but not obscene.

Just re cost him, 80 pts IMO

i feel like they wanted to have GOWK back in there so they could quit hearing about it. This new Obi takes away everything we didnt like as in master of the force 2, force renewal 1. and gives him limits on what he can do as in only 5 force points no renewal and no master of the force he still has mettle but he will fly through all of his FP quick if he cant make saves.

If you play the new obi you will prob be paying 66 points for a ce (a good one at that) and for a tough to kill piece. Flight does help his Offense but if you advance him be prepared to run through your FP quick.

What im trying to say is this new obi is your GOWK they should keep GOWK out of the game and not start errataing him like crazy we have an awesome obi now lets move on past the GOWK stage

I'd say we should skip over GOWK and get on with our lives, but this game and this particular site has already sucked up most of ours. :P

This is our new GOWK. Period.
*No MoTF 2. (cant stack mettle anymore, and not that you really had to to begin with.)
*No Knight speed
*No force Push
*No Crazy off the wall CE granting Boba BH a 28 def in cover, and a 22 to attack a unique enemy.

Why are we even talking about Changing the errata on GOWK, when Wizards did exactly what we asked them to do, make another Playable version of him.
Soresu Style Mastery works like Jaraels Evade/Parry. in my opinion, it saves room on the card to put Soresu Style Mastery instead of Evade and Parry.
Soresu is not the problem here.
GOWK is dead issue, this is what Wizards gave us. I for one am very happy with this new Kenobi, and so is my capt. Rex.

Gah! Don't even mention that. I am not looking forward to my first time on the receiving end of that combo. Time to start playing Wedge/Rieekan 99% of the time again, me thinks.

Anyway, I chose to leave SSM alone and just address GOWK... which, in my opinion, has been done with this new Obi-Wan. The lack of MOTF and Renewal balances SSM out (though he could have done without Mettle, IMO), and with two awesome combos chewing up his 5 FPs, they aren't going to last long. My vote now would be to leave GOWK banned and not further complicate the issue by giving him an errata.

This new Obi is NOT undercosted. Compare him to Darth Vader LotF : Vader has same CE, better stats, more offensive and defensive powers, FR1... Obi has higher mobility though.

I agree with everything bar 'more defensive powers'. I really doubt that Lightsaber Reflect and Dark Armour compares in even the slightest to SSM.