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Balance Committee Suggestions for 2023 Options
DarkDracul
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:45:28 PM
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Balance Committee Suggestions for the 2023 Season

The sole purpose of this thread is to create a list of potential discussion topics for the 2023 tournament season.
Please make a single post for each individual topic you would like discussed by the BC.
You may include a brief paragraph synopsis and links to any related discussion threads.

This thread is not for discussion or debate over these topics or the Balance Committee itself.
If you want to have a conversation go to a related thread or create a new one.
I'm not saying this to be a jurk . . . I don't want requests to be lost/ buried by heated debate.

Don't repost (spam) topics already listed or request ones be removed from the list.
Topics listed here are not guaranteed to make the final list of BC discussion items.
The final list will be determined by reading threads, taking polls, and reaching out to the community.

This list officially closes on November 30th, 2022.

Current List of Proposed Topics for Discussion
*CotG 27 Admiral Daala
*ATTA 20 Jabba Desilijic Tiure
*Limited reinforcement pool
*EA 33 Nightsister Hunter
*LTA 32 Bib Fortuna, Majordomo
*Stacking of Attack & Damage
*IE 24 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo)
*RTP 3 Malak, Jedi General
*DotF 9 Darth Revan, Sith Lord
*No multi-cannon shots
*Activation Cap @200
*return to 150 point constructed as standard format
*Floor rule to expand role of spending a Force Point
*Damage Mitigation (Rolling Evade=Evade=SSM=Soresu)
*LotF 33 Han Solo, Galactic Hero
*TR 17 Luke Rescuer
DarkDracul
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*CotG 27 Admiral Daala

Bring her back?
DarkDracul
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:50:45 PM
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*ATTA 20 Jabba Desilijic Tiure

Bump his cost up a little, maybe 10-15 points?
DarkDracul
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:52:16 PM
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I still think we should be playing with a limited reinforcement pool. The unlimited sideboard is idiotic.

*Limited reinforcement pool
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:17:54 PM
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Jabba: Tight Security is oppressive.

It should only be triggered if the (opponent's) piece in question has LOS to Jabba himself, and should not be triggered if the piece in question has LOS to one of Jabba's hirelings. Jabba wasn't a congenial person who cared about those around him...he had just one person's well-being in mind: his own.
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:18:44 PM
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Nightsister Hunters: Plasma Bolt should be changed to -2 (rather than -4), or else remove it entirely.
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:24:12 PM
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Bib Fortuna: his movement CE is far too strong. It needs to be limited to once per round per character, or even more limited than that.

In the Finals match alone (the only full match I watched), that CE was able to be used 3x in Round 1, 3x in Round 2, and 4x in Round 3 (one of those provided the critical movement that Gandalf needed to end the game). That’s 18+ spaces per round…by contrast, R2 or Foul or Levitation (all considered powerful movement breakers for a long time) provide ~12 squares of movement per round, and those pieces (especially R2) often need to expose themselves in order to do their job. Limiting Bib's movement CE to once per phase for each character is absolutely not enough of a nerf.

Bib is already playing a huge role in Jabba squads by giving Rapport -8 and making all followers be Hutt Cartel. And giving Death Strike...that's another topic.
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:28:12 PM
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Damage Stacking: It has gotten out of hand and needs to be limited in some way or another.

My suggestion: "At any given point no character can receive a damage bonus from more than 1 source that is not printed on its card."

This one requires an entire discussion thread in order to properly state the multi-faceted nature of this problem.
jen'ari
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:43:05 PM
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Make Thrawn cost 60.
jen'ari
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:01:42 PM
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Drop rival on Malak.
jen'ari
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Make Darth Revan, Sith Lord cost 50.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:03:28 PM
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Put Bib back to his original version.

Raise Jabba's cost a lot. Probably +20 to +30. More if necessary.
Mando
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:05:28 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
Nightsister Hunters: Plasma Bolt should be changed to -2 (rather than -4), or else remove it entirely.


i second this. the reason plasma bolt -4 on a twin attacking Nightsister who is fringe and can get cannon shots is just way to powerful. -4 to saves is extremely powerful when dealing with ranged attacks.
DarkDracul
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:19:57 PM
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Recently a growing number of abusive squads are centered around getting to "double cannon" a character each round.

We need a floor rule preventing a character from being cannoned more than once per round.
spryguy1981
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 7:10:59 PM
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Activation cap. 12 acts including reinforcements.
jen'ari
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:17:49 PM
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Floor rule:

I think the use a force point list should be expanded.
1 force to open or close adjacent unlocked door
1 force to gain acrobatics until and of turn
1 force to gain stable footing until and of turn
1 force to gain stealth until and of turn
gandalfthegreatestwizard
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:52:04 PM
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The balance committee should not introduce any new floor rules or erratas that change the mechanics of the game or of characters. The only changes to characters should be bans or cost changes. At this point a lot of characters given errata in the past few years have not been updated on bloomilk, nor does anyone have new physical cards for them. With erratas stacking up it will only get more difficult to recall who does what. A ban or cost change is simpler to remember. The same goes for floor rules changing long-established mechanics; we should have a new floor rule preventing the stacking of floor rules with each other.
DarthMaim
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:47:18 PM
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spryguy1981 wrote:
Activation cap. 12 acts including reinforcements.


+1.
DarthMaim
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:54:17 PM
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+1 to each post by tint.
DarthMaim
Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:56:41 PM
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GenCon and VassalCon champs be changed to 150 pts., while simultaneously adding a 10 activations cap including reinforcements and reserves.
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