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curler88j
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:04:00 PM
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can you draw line of sight from a corner that a wall ends at? and can number 1 see number 2?

xxxxxxx2
xx______
xx1xxxxx

x= empty square
_=wall
Sithborg
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:13:30 PM
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No. You can't draw the LOS beyond that 90 degree angle.
curler88j
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:21:08 PM
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ok i thought so but a guy at my LGS says characters have the ability to "lean around corners". Is there somewhere where that is written so i can show the guy at my LGS?
DarthJak
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:24:11 PM
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ask him to show you where it says you can lean around corners.
qvos
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:54:12 PM
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That"s what Mobile and Greater Mobile is for.
curler88j
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:46:54 PM
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DarthJak wrote:
ask him to show you where it says you can lean around corners.


but i still need to show him that you cant
Ruhk
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:50:15 PM
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find a rule book. It has pictures of LOSs.
curler88j
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:36:03 PM
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i have look but i didn't see an example that shows this particular situation. maybe i missed it.
seibermaki
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:17:11 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure player 1 can hit any of the 6 squares on the left... (marked in o's)..

ooxxxxx2
oo______
oo1xxxxxx
countrydude82487
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:13:33 PM
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seibermaki wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure player 1 can hit any of the 6 squares on the left... (marked in o's)..

ooxxxxx2
oo______
oo1xxxxxx


thats correct. player one or 2 for that matter can hit any of the o's
swmimperial130
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:44:40 PM
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curler88j wrote:
ok i thought so but a guy at my LGS says characters have the ability to "lean around corners". Is there somewhere where that is written so i can show the guy at my LGS?

He was probably joking, like DurgeDude does :P
curler88j
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:06:11 AM
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swmimperial130 wrote:
curler88j wrote:
ok i thought so but a guy at my LGS says characters have the ability to "lean around corners". Is there somewhere where that is written so i can show the guy at my LGS?

He was probably joking, like DurgeDude does :P


no he is serious
DarthJak
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:16:31 AM
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to have line of sight, you draw a line from the attackers square to the defenders square, if you can do this without touching a wall, you have LOS,
In the OP diagram this cannot be done
LoboStele
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:28:43 AM
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Yeah, the easy way to remember LOS is that you have to be able to draw the line from INSIDE the square, not just an edge or a corner. Sometimes, it might be a seriously tight line just inside the square, but it is INSIDE the 4 lines, nonetheless. In the original poster's diagram, the only way the line could be drawn at all would be from the very corner of the square, and that's not allowed.


And seriously, don't let people be jerks and force you to find where it says they can't do it that way. Both of you sit down with the LOS section of the rules together and look through it together. Make them show you where it says it IS legal.
Darth Percocet
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:20:36 PM
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LoboStele wrote:
Yeah, the easy way to remember LOS is that you have to be able to draw the line from INSIDE the square, not just an edge or a corner. Sometimes, it might be a seriously tight line just inside the square, but it is INSIDE the 4 lines, nonetheless. In the original poster's diagram, the only way the line could be drawn at all would be from the very corner of the square, and that's not allowed.


And seriously, don't let people be jerks and force you to find where it says they can't do it that way. Both of you sit down with the LOS section of the rules together and look through it together. Make them show you where it says it IS legal.


At my LGS we use Name Tag or KeyChain stretchers, the things that when you pull the one part it comes out in a string & to get it back in you just push the button on the base for LOS. They work pretty good.

As for this, you can lean around corners but you cant lean around corners to shoot behind the wall, If something was lined up with the wall like so.

X= Wall O = Character

O
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxO

you would ba able to lean around a corner to shoot but to shoot around the corner like this

O
xxxxxxxxx
O

you wouldnt because the line for LOS would go through the wall. When you think about LOS it is one of the rules that more look into Logic than others. Basically when you do your line for LOS its obvious that you cant shoot through a wall, take any part of the square you fig is on & draw the line to be able to see anyone of your opponents squares without any default. If its going through walls than obviously you cant see the figure.

But i would really encourage people to get them Keychain stretchers for your LOS in the game, they are cheap & they work so good.
seibermaki
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:44:21 PM
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the "name tag" or "keychain stretchers" that Darth Percocet mentions are GREAT for a line of sight "tool". My buddy and I use 'em. I highly recommend getting one.
qvos
Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:13:00 PM
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also the laser site from Harbor freight is small and is the perfect line of site tool to.
Darth Percocet
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:33:52 AM
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Hope i dont get in trouble for posting this here, but since the question was answered, heres the things i was talking about for LOS..



They work good, tells you weither or not you have LOS, even shows you if they have cover or not, they are pinpoint accurate..
Mandelmauler
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:38:49 AM
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Just remember to hold them tight when measuring or someone's mini is going to be launched into orbit! been there, done that.
swinefeld
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:45:03 AM
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Mandelmauler wrote:
Just remember to hold them tight when measuring or someone's mini is going to be launched into orbit! been there, done that.


I always get mine caught on a lightsaber or something.
I really should get the laser thing. That sounds cool.
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