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i saw the cover for the next set and there is going to be New Mace Windu, Han Solo and a Grievous before he was a cyborg, alright people what do you think they would have stat and special abilities wise. have fun
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Mace Windu, Master of the Order Cost: 79 Hp: 150 Def: 22 Atk: 17 Dmg: 20 Unique Double Attack Lightsaber Duelist Twin Attack Vaapad-Style Mastery (Scores a critical hit on a natural 18, 19, or 20; enemies hit by this character's attack are considered activated; save 6) Force 3 Force Renewal 1 Master of the Force 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber Precision 2 (Force 2; usable only on this character's turn; +4 attack and +20 damage until the end of the turn) Master Speed Overwhelming Force Shatterpoint CE: Allies with a lightsaber gain +10 damage against adjacent enemies.
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that's actually pretty good, nice representation of Windu... 79 points might be a little high, maybe a CE is in order?
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Darth_Sal wrote:that's actually pretty good, nice representation of Windu... 79 points might be a little high, maybe a CE is in order? That could work.
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Kaleesh Grievous VR 31 points Fringe
HP-100 DF-19 AT-12 DM-20
unique(counts as grievous) double attack deadeye Sniper speed 8 savage hunter (+4 attack and +10 damage against a character with the special ability savage)
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zorc62 wrote:Mace Windu, Master of the Order Cost: 79 Hp: 150 Def: 22 Atk: 17 Dmg: 20 Unique Double Attack Lightsaber Duelist Twin Attack Vaapad-Style Mastery (Scores a critical hit on a natural 18, 19, or 20; enemies hit by this character's attack are considered activated; save 6) Force 3 Force Renewal 1 Master of the Force 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber Precision 2 (Force 2; usable only on this character's turn; +4 attack and +20 damage until the end of the turn) Master Speed Overwhelming Force Shatterpoint CE: Allies with a lightsaber gain +10 damage against adjacent enemies. Undercost much?
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Weeks wrote:zorc62 wrote:Mace Windu, Master of the Order Cost: 79 Hp: 150 Def: 22 Atk: 17 Dmg: 20 Unique Double Attack Lightsaber Duelist Twin Attack Vaapad-Style Mastery (Scores a critical hit on a natural 18, 19, or 20; enemies hit by this character's attack are considered activated; save 6) Force 3 Force Renewal 1 Master of the Force 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber Precision 2 (Force 2; usable only on this character's turn; +4 attack and +20 damage until the end of the turn) Master Speed Overwhelming Force Shatterpoint CE: Allies with a lightsaber gain +10 damage against adjacent enemies. Undercost much? I am not really sure what I should cost him. What do you think would work?
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zorc62 wrote:Weeks wrote:zorc62 wrote:Mace Windu, Master of the Order Cost: 79 Hp: 150 Def: 22 Atk: 17 Dmg: 20 Unique Double Attack Lightsaber Duelist Twin Attack Vaapad-Style Mastery (Scores a critical hit on a natural 18, 19, or 20; enemies hit by this character's attack are considered activated; save 6) Force 3 Force Renewal 1 Master of the Force 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber Precision 2 (Force 2; usable only on this character's turn; +4 attack and +20 damage until the end of the turn) Master Speed Overwhelming Force Shatterpoint CE: Allies with a lightsaber gain +10 damage against adjacent enemies. Undercost much? I am not really sure what I should cost him. What do you think would work? I'd think around 130. With Double, Twin, Vaapad,, and Lightsaber Precision 2, Mace could REALLY get out of hand fast. With no crits, he could drop 160 points of damage on an enemy beat without trying. A crit could push that up to 180. Doombot could even tow him around so you can move 12 AND do that. And with MOTF 2, there'd be no blocking any of it. After that freaking out, your beat, if he's left standing, is likely activated. Then he has to try to hit Mace's 26 defense. Even if he does, Mace could just Defense it or suck it up; he's got 150 HP after all. Then you have the CE, which would leave punks like Gen. Skywalker, Jarael, and GMY reaching unholy damage levels. Or we could just start with JWMs for that matter. So with a piece that guarantees the death of any beat he faces, save for GMLS (who he still might beat) and a CE that lets his Jedi buddies run wild, I'd cost him high enough that your opponent may bring in two or even three beats to fight him and so he can't bring in any other beatstick buddies without sacrificing a lot in your build.
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Talk to Gwek or BH9 they know costing very well over on the customs database.
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New Version:
Mace Windu, Master of the Order Cost: 109 Hp: 150 Def: 21 Atk: 17 Dmg: 20 Unique Double Attack Lightsaber Duelist Twin Attack Vaapad-Style Fighting Force 3 Force Renewal 1 Master of the Force 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber Precision 2 (Force 2; usable only on this character's turn; +20 damage until the end of the turn) Master Speed Overwhelming Force Shatterpoint CE: Followers with a lightsaber gain Mighty Swing.
Replaced Vaapad Mastery with Vaapad Fighting, limited the CE to followers and to when standing still, removed the attack bonus from Lightsaber Precision, lowered defense to 21, and upped cost to 105. I figure that he will have a hard time with getting all the force points he needs. To deal 160 damage instead of 80 requires 2 force points, and it costs another one to use Overwhelming Force. With shooters like Captain Rex and Dash on the loose, he can quickly burn through force points using Lightsaber Defense. Also, followers with lightsabers should cut out most powerful jedi in the faction, as well as Jarael (she does not have a lightsaber).
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Mace Windu, Master of the Order VR Points: 81? (not good at costing figs) Republic
HP:150 DEF:23 ATK:16 DMG:20
melee; triple unique Vapaad Mastery (normal vapaad and cannot be redirected, absorbed, blocked etc.) Flurry attack
Force 3 Renewal 1 Shatterpoint percision 2 (Force 2; +20 on next attack) whirlwind attack Force absorb lightsaber block Master 2
CE: Allies w/ force rating gain vapaad style fighting (not mastery), but at the beginning of skirmish must roll a save of 6 if a character fails this save this characters CE does not apply to them for rest of skirmish.The save of 6 may be rerolled w/ force point once.
vulnerable to shooters. burns through 5 force points total inlcuding shatterpoint if he wants to deal 140
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Everytime someone tried to learn vaapad they went to the darkside. Mace was the only guy that didnt. Mace will prob end up costing around 70-80 points in this set (so i think) so its likely he will be along the lines of LV. I predict something like this.
HP 150 Def 22 Att +15 Damage 20 SA:Melee Attack, Triple Attack, Vaapad style mastery(scores a crit on 18,19, and 20 and it hits for X3 damage).
Force Powers Force:3 Renewal:1 MOTF:2 Lightsaber Def Force Absorb. Lightsaber reposte. Force push 2. Master Speed CE:Followers within 6 squares gain flurry attack.
Cost around 65-70. Good stat line give him a 15% chance to do 60 damage on a hit. Didnt give him Shatterpoint cause Vaapad mastery is powerfull enough. Good ce but not overpowered. He can do really what he wants with his force powers but at a big cost. He can be very versital and very nasty vs melee with 2 repostes or 2 def per turn.
Flurry Attack is something thats pretty fun when it happens even though its only a 5% chance of happening. Another good ce would be giving followers with a force rating LS duelist.
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Weeks wrote:Everytime someone tried to learn vaapad they went to the darkside. Mace was the only guy that didnt. H actualy thats not entirely true Depa BIllaba learned the Vapad style and dint turn to the dark side. She was however maces apprentice and from what wookiepedia says one of the only 2 to master the style. Edit: I reread some parts of it Billaba did eventualy go to the dark side.
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I think he should have shatterpoint, and maybe change his commander effect to only effect characters with a force rating within 6.
Here my idea for him:
Mace Windu, Master of the Jedi Council Cost:94 (maybe) HP: 150 Def:22 Att: 15 Dam: 20 Special abillities: Unique Melee attack< Triple attack Vaapad- Style Mastery( vaapad with tripple crit) Force Powers: Force 3, Force Renewal 1, Master of the Force 2 Force Absorb, Force Push 2 Lightsaber Defense Lightsaber flurry (force 4, this character gain twin attack until the end of his turn) Master Speed Shatterpoint
Commander Effect: Followers within 6 that have a force rating gain Flurry attack(or deadly either would work)
My thinking is he is formidable to GMLS but not always going to win (With Djem so mastery) He still has to replace a turn to get shatterpoint against only one opponent so the first hit will do 60 but which is good against most people but he will run out of force points using defense pretty quick so for the most part he might get one of the Lightsaber flurrys off before he is probubly gone. this is powerful but he can be taken down early on especially if he does do shatterpoint. ANd making sure he has a commander effect he wont be subject to most. along with the fact he is 94 points not to many other commanders will fit in a squad with him
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countrydude82487 wrote:Weeks wrote:Everytime someone tried to learn vaapad they went to the darkside. Mace was the only guy that didnt. H actualy thats not entirely true Depa BIllaba learned the Vapad style and dint turn to the dark side. She was however maces apprentice and from what wookiepedia says one of the only 2 to master the style. Edit: I reread some parts of it Billaba did eventualy go to the dark side. I wouldn't say Dark Side, just ape crazy.
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Sithborg wrote:countrydude82487 wrote:Weeks wrote:Everytime someone tried to learn vaapad they went to the darkside. Mace was the only guy that didnt. H actualy thats not entirely true Depa BIllaba learned the Vapad style and dint turn to the dark side. She was however maces apprentice and from what wookiepedia says one of the only 2 to master the style. Edit: I reread some parts of it Billaba did eventualy go to the dark side. I wouldn't say Dark Side, just ape crazy. lol true
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Han Solo, Freedom Fighter? Cost:43? Rebel Hp-90 Def-17 Atk-10 Dmg-20
intuition mobile attack twin attack cunning attack +20 repair 20 industrial repair 10 never tell me the odds rapport (-1 chewie) evade
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JFisto wrote:Han Solo, Freedom Fighter? Cost:43? Rebel Hp-90 Def-17 Atk-10 Dmg-20
intuition mobile attack twin attack cunning attack +20 repair 20 industrial repair 10 never tell me the odds rapport (-1 chewie) evade I like it! Finally a Han that can keep the Falcon operational!
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Mace Windu, Jedi General 82
150 HP 22 D +16 A 20 D
Unique,Melee,Triple,Vapaad Mastery (18-20 crit, triple damage on crit)
Force 2 Renewual 1 Lightsaber Defense Greater Shatterpoint (like other only can blow up doors or something as well) Force absorb Master Speed
CE: Non-unique followers gain self destruct 40
(We all know that Windu was a Dark Jedi)
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JFisto wrote:Han Solo, Freedom Fighter? Cost:43? Rebel Hp-90 Def-17 Atk-10 Dmg-20
intuition mobile attack twin attack cunning attack +20 repair 20 industrial repair 10 never tell me the odds rapport (-1 chewie) evade could use accurate shot
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