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So I've played a couple of hours worth of Minis so far, and I think I've got the basics down. There's one thing I've not been able to wrap my brain around (and the rules are kind of vague on this point) - this closest character thing.
So, lets assume Han and two Stormtroopers are in a room, wide open with no cover anywhere. Stormtrooper A is 4 squares away and Stormtrooper B is 5 squares away. Now, if I'm reading this right, Han has to shoot Stormtrooper A, correct? Or can he shoot either A or B.
(We'll worry about putting folks under cover in a second. Let me get the basics first).
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No. Han can shoot either, as you can shoot any character without cover.
"The nearest enemy" only comes up when cover is involved. You can still shoot anyone without cover, but if someone does have cover, they must be the nearest enemy to target them.
Nickname has a pretty good guide up on the-holocron, linked up above.
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Sithborg wrote:Nickname has a pretty good guide up on the-holocron, linked up above. Okay, I'll go check out the guide straight away. But in a nutshell, Trooper A is 4 squares away, Trooper B is 5 away and Trooper C is 3 away - and all are under cover. Han has to shoot C first (assuming of course no weird modifiers like stealth and the like). That sound right?
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Yes, without Accurate Shot, Han would have to target C, since you can only target someone in cover if they are the nearest enemy.
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Here's the basic explanation before factoring in all the nutty abilities that may change it: A. If there's an enemy adjacent, you may only target adjacent enemies. B. If there's no adjacent enemy you may target the nearest enemy in line of sight or any other enemy in line of sight that does NOT have cover. Effectively, B means that you can only target enemies in cover if they're the nearest enemy which is not coincidentally how the rules explain it.  Given your first example, A is not true and all your enemies meet the requirements of B so you could target any of them. Given your second example, none of your enemies are in line of sight without cover so your only remaining option is the nearest enemy.
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Desslok DO NOT READ THIS! I DONT WANT TO CONFUSE YOU! DONT READ ANY POSTS BY ME ON THIS THREAD.
I thought you could attack enemys with stealth if they are 6 squars away even if they arent the closest?
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You can, but only if the stealth character has no cover or if there is someone closer and the stealth character has cover.
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Darthbane53 wrote:I thought you could attack enemys with stealth if they are 6 squars away even if they arent the closest? If Stealth is in effect, the character does not count as the closest enemy and thus would not be targetable. If they were the closest enemy, the next closest enemy would be considered the closest enemy instead.
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So you have to be adjacent to attack someone with stealth? If they arent the closest enemy?
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No. If they are within 6 of the attacker, then Stealth has no affect, and are subject to targetting rules as normal. When Stealth is in effect (cover and more than 6 away), is when they don't count as the nearest enemy.
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Okay okay. I have been playing since '05 and never used this rule =/ I would like to start though because Stealth DOES play a huge part in the game. Thank you for explaning!
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Awesome, thx for the explaination, I was not sure about this myself :)
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Sithborg wrote:No. If they are within 6 of the attacker, then Stealth has no affect, and are subject to targetting rules as normal. When Stealth is in effect (cover and more than 6 away), is when they don't count as the nearest enemy. Just for the sake of clarification and my own piece of mind. If my opponents squad consists of 3 mini's and they all have stealth, are in cover and more than 6 squares away. I have no legal target and I cannot attack any of them correct? They either need to leave cover or I need to get within 6 square or less?
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Correct.
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jedispyder wrote:Correct. Cool thanks js 
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We didn't get into super-stealth, but I'll go ahead and muddy the waters some more with the most convoluted stealth situation.
Suppose you have a character with "super-stealth". Super-stealth is the commonly used (but unofficial) term for "cannot be attacked by non-adjacent enemies if they have cover". It's granted by Moff Nyna Calixte, Bacara, Nom Anor, and the Rebel Commando Strike Leader. Maybe someone else too.
So you have your super-stealth character and the enemy is within 6 of the character but not adjacent, and the super-stealth character is the enemy's closest target. Because the enemy is within 6, stealth has no effect and your super-stealth character counts as the nearest target for the enemy. But because of super-stealth, the enemy cannot target the super-stealth character. So the enemy cannot target anyone who has cover, since the closest character has super-stealth. He can't even target characters who don't have stealth. Crazy, huh?
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No, if the nearest enemy is not a legal target, you pick the next nearest.
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Segastorm wrote:No, if the nearest enemy is not a legal target, you pick the next nearest. This is incorrect. If a character is not a legal target, but is still considered the nearest enemy (i.e. The situation FlyingArrow described), the next nearest enemy does not become the nearest enemy and a legal target.
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Oh, didn't see that earlier. That's yet another difference betweeen super-stealth and cloaked.
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EmporerDragon Would you please elaborate of this super-stealth question I have.
A) Lets say you have a SS figure (lets say cad bane) within 6 squares of an enemy, but not adjacent. The enemy cannot not target bane because of SS, however you also have a Uggi Demo behind bane, the uggi demo has cover (this cover is not provided by bane), your enemy cannot target this uggi demo, even though bane isn't the closet legal target?
B) same situation but bane is not within 6 squares of your enemy but still the closet?
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