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Quote:Telepathic Insight (During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you may choose one commander effect. This character gains this commander effect and any faction specific effects become Yuuzhan Vong specific effects.) Im not sure exactly how this works. When choosing a commander effect does it have to be a commander effect of a Commander on your squad, opponent's squad, any CE on the boad or any CE period in mini's? Also when the specific's become vong, lets say its Jabba CL & he grants non unique fringe pieces cunning att, if you were to take this CE would it only be for Vong from that point on & not fringe or would it be for both now? Also if you do take a commanders lets say Jabba CL's CE & he is on your squad, does the figure with Tel I gain this CE or does Jabba CL's change? Meaning would i now have a CE that grants non unique vong pieces cunning & also have a piece that grants non unique fringe pieces it to? Thanx in advance i know its a bunch of questions..
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I believe since the sentence is separated by a comma, the subject of "your opponent's squad" directs you as to where you can pull the CE from.
If this is not correct, perhaps one of the designers/tester will be able to answer in more detail.
#2: In Jabba CL's CE...replace Fringe with Vong. It becomes Vong specific (only affecting characters of the Vong faction).
#3: Only the character with TI has the Vong specific change to the CE. It does not affect anyone else on the board.
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Darth Percocet wrote:Quote:Telepathic Insight (During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you may choose one commander effect. This character gains this commander effect and any faction specific effects become Yuuzhan Vong specific effects.) Im not sure exactly how this works. When choosing a commander effect does it have to be a commander effect of a Commander on your squad, opponent's squad, any CE on the boad or any CE period in mini's? Its only for enemy commander effects. This is not clear on the card but the glossary explains it Quote:Also when the specific's become vong, lets say its Jabba CL & he grants non unique fringe pieces cunning att, if you were to take this CE would it only be for Vong from that point on & not fringe or would it be for both now? it would become Vong specific and any frigne you had would not be applicable. Quote:Also if you do take a commanders lets say Jabba CL's CE & he is on your squad, does the figure with Tel I gain this CE or does Jabba CL's change? Meaning would i now have a CE that grants non unique vong pieces cunning & also have a piece that grants non unique fringe pieces it to?
Thanx in advance i know its a bunch of questions.. If you had Jabba CL, and you stole an opponents Jabba CL DE then you would have 2 different CEs one that pertains to non-unique vong and one that applies to non-unique fringe.
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imyurhukaberry wrote:I believe since the sentence is separated by a comma, the subject of "your opponent's squad" directs you as to where you can pull the CE from.
If this is not correct, perhaps one of the designers/tester will be able to answer in more detail.
#2: In Jabba CL's CE...replace Fringe with Vong. It becomes Vong specific (only affecting characters of the Vong faction).
#3: Only the character with TI has the Vong specific change to the CE. It does not affect anyone else on the board. Ahh ok understand alot better now thanx Huk. Yea its worded weird lol, not to much detail in it & i couldnt find a glossary term on it, i know gamers has them terms but i cant find my PW for it.
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fingersandteeth wrote:Darth Percocet wrote:Quote:Telepathic Insight (During setup, after seeing your opponent's squad, you may choose one commander effect. This character gains this commander effect and any faction specific effects become Yuuzhan Vong specific effects.) Im not sure exactly how this works. When choosing a commander effect does it have to be a commander effect of a Commander on your squad, opponent's squad, any CE on the boad or any CE period in mini's? Its only for enemy commander effects. This is not clear on the card but the glossary explains it Quote:Also when the specific's become vong, lets say its Jabba CL & he grants non unique fringe pieces cunning att, if you were to take this CE would it only be for Vong from that point on & not fringe or would it be for both now? it would become Vong specific and any frigne you had would not be applicable. Quote:Also if you do take a commanders lets say Jabba CL's CE & he is on your squad, does the figure with Tel I gain this CE or does Jabba CL's change? Meaning would i now have a CE that grants non unique vong pieces cunning & also have a piece that grants non unique fringe pieces it to?
Thanx in advance i know its a bunch of questions.. If you had Jabba CL, and you stole an opponents Jabba CL DE then you would have 2 different CEs one that pertains to non-unique vong and one that applies to non-unique fringe. Thanx fingers, i think if the wording were take an enemies CE than i would of got it right off the bat, hearing that puts it all right into place to understand 10x easier, anywho its a cool new SA, not to bad at all, thanx fella's.
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Since we are talking about Telepathic Insight: It states faction specific become Vong specific, does that also count when the CE effects a character type? I.E: GGDAC Droids are subject to this effect. Droids in your squad gain +4 attack and +4 defense and twin attack. In my opinion that could make Vong way to powerful against such squads.
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General Ed wrote:Since we are talking about Telepathic Insight: It states faction specific become Vong specific, does that also count when the CE effects a character type? I.E: GGDAC Droids are subject to this effect. Droids in your squad gain +4 attack and +4 defense and twin attack. In my opinion that could make Vong way to powerful against such squads. No. Only the faction is changed, nothing else. For example, if a Rebel Captain's CE is copied, the Yammosk would have the CE "Yuuzhan Vong Troopers within 6 squares gain Twin Attack".
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If the CE is about characters with a force rating, then that would be Vong with a force rating?
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No, since there is no faction in the original CE. Only if it has one of the 10 factions listed in the CE will it be changed to Yuuzhan Vong. Think most of the Mandalorian CEs.
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markedman247 wrote:If the CE is about characters with a force rating, then that would be Vong with a force rating? No, as "characters with a force rating" is not a faction. It would require the CE to have "[faction] characters with a force rating" in order for it to only affect Vong with a force rating.
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EmporerDragon wrote:General Ed wrote:Since we are talking about Telepathic Insight: It states faction specific become Vong specific, does that also count when the CE effects a character type? I.E: GGDAC Droids are subject to this effect. Droids in your squad gain +4 attack and +4 defense and twin attack. In my opinion that could make Vong way to powerful against such squads. No. Only the faction is changed, nothing else. For example, if a Rebel Captain's CE is copied, the Yammosk would have the CE "Yuuzhan Vong Troopers within 6 squares gain Twin Attack". Thanks. Now I can rub it in someones face that keeps arguing this with me.  LOL
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Using the logic that has been described, the new Nautolaun BSV would allow Vong characters with stealth to gain Black Sun special ability. That means if an opponent is using either of the Xizors, the Vong could be affected either with the CE of +4/10 or Accurate Shot/Grenades 20 (Since I can only pick 2). Is this correct?
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No, since the Nautolan Vigo's CE only affects Fringe followers.
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If the opponent has the NBSV and you have Xizor in your Vong squad (rather unlikely), then it would work by copying the NBSV's CE. Now there is an amusing scenario. 
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Ok, so to sum up:
If NBSV is in the Vong squad built around stealth, it wouldn't help if Xizor is in the opponent's squad. However, if Xizor (either kind) was in the Vong squad built around stealth and the opponent had the NBSV, then it would allow Vong access to the BS special ability. Is this the correct interpretation?
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markedman247 wrote:Ok, so to sum up:
If NBSV is in the Vong squad built around stealth, it wouldn't help if Xizor is in the opponent's squad. However, if Xizor (either kind) was in the Vong squad built around stealth and the opponent had the NBSV, then it would allow Vong access to the BS special ability. Is this the correct interpretation? Yes.
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I vote for a post of Question of DotF set, greettings.
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I kind of agree with needing a thread for the set. But this was, by far, the most confusing effect that needed clarifying.
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How does General Obi-Wan Kenobi's Commander Effect, and the Yammosk's War Coordinator interact?
GOWK's CE:
Each follower gets +4 Attack and +4 Defense as long as it has an ally within 6 squares.
Yammosk War Coordinator:
Special abilities that grant bonuses to Yuuzhan Vong within 6 squares or commander effects normally limited to 6 squares of characters in your squad (including this character) have unlimited range
Does GOWK's CE get broadcast to every follower, or does it still only work if they have an ally within 6 squares?
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GOWKs CE is already rangeless, so Yammosk has no particular impact. This is just like GOWKs CE with Booming Voice--irrelevent.
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