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bkchi
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:16:21 AM
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Hey, all. This isn't aimed at anyone in particular. Quick lesson on punctuation. An apostrophe is never used to make a word plural. No exceptions. Looking at the topics in the general section I see the words "era's" and "Rogue's". The plural of era is just eras. The plural of rogue is just rogues. Some people think that to make an acronym plural, like DVD or VCR you use an apostrophe. Not true. The plurals are DVDs and VCRs. If you have this rule down then you have a majority of punctuation problems licked! A moron that writes well looks smart, and a genius that writes poorly looks unintelligent. Know how they say wearing vertical stripes is slimming? Mastering this simple rule will do the same thing for how you look in e-mails and other written communications. It adds 5 or 10 points to your IQ overnight! Thanks.
jedispyder
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:24:32 AM
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It always makes me shudder when I see it listed as Renegades and Rogue's. "Rogue's what? Her bra? And who is the renegade, Gambit?"
keith
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:30:04 AM
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Are you trying to say VCR's play DVD-s? Razz
Thats' Unpossible BigGrin
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:30:34 AM
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I am guilty of perpetrating this and other grammatical atrocities from time to time. BlooMilk
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:33:39 AM
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I find the long paragraphs with little use of punctuation and random use of capitals to be far more annoying.
Ruhk
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:36:06 AM
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what about "that's" .... RULE EXCEPTION!!
or
its vs it's
:D

And if we're on the topic of grammar/punctuation/etc what about proper capitalization and the use of paragraphs to separate ideas? Nothing is harder to read than a long sting of un-capitalized sentences in one giant block.
SuperYodaMan
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:03:40 AM
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Sithborg wrote:
I find the long paragraphs with little use of punctuation and random use of capitals to be far more annoying.

You'd hate American History or reading the Constitution, then; those Colonial-Age paragraphs go on forever! More often than not, a half-page paragraph will be two sentences! I think you'd also hate the German language, because they've decided that it's correct to randomly capitalize certain nouns in their sentences (no offense intended toward Germans, just good humor).LOL

Ruhk wrote:
what about "that's" .... RULE EXCEPTION!!
or
its vs it's
:D

Umm... I hope you're joking, because there's no "rule exception" here; "that's" isn't plural. It's a contraction of "that" and "is." Also, just to clarify, "it's" is a contraction of "it is," and "its" is possessive, not the other way around.

Another lesson: sentences never start with "and," "but," "so," nor any other conjunction, nor with a preposition, unless the preposition starts a dependent clause at the beginning of the sentence. Example: Of the minis I have, that one is the coolest.

Thanks for posting this by the way, bkchi. ThumpUp Not many things annoy me more than poor grammar (you're not doing good, you're doing well!) and poor punctuation ThumbDown ; I don't own a cell phone but, if I did, I would text in full sentences... with punctuation (*gasp*). OMG
LOL
bkchi
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:22:04 AM
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Thanks for the support, guys. I thought for sure I'd get roasted for this one. BlooMilk Keep an eye out for my continuing Unwelcome Education series where I discuss the differences between to/too/two, there/their/they're, whose/who's, and its/it's! I may even throw in some Spanish and discuss to/too/two/tú/tu (and Usted). Don't ask me what vosotros means, I never learned. Huh
SuperYodaMan
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:30:03 AM
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bkchi wrote:
Don't ask me what vosotros means, I never learned. Huh

"Vosotros" is used like "ustedes." However, this form is primarily only used in Spain. [I took Spanish the past 3 years in high school (unfortunately I didn't have enough room in my schedule for a 4th year this year), and my most recent teacher was actually from Argentina, which was pretty cool.]
Ruhk
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:04:45 AM
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Don't forget your and you're.. boy does that one annoy me.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:06:27 AM
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Ruhk wrote:
Don't forget your and you're.. boy does that one annoy me.


ur Razz
SquelchDog
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:13:10 AM
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Sithborg wrote:
I find the long paragraphs with little use of punctuation and random use of capitals to be far more annoying.


Ya, I'd have to agree with you there dude. ThumpUp

Thanks for the punctuation lesson bkchi. I'm sure I'm guilty of it. Razz
kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:05:57 PM
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I used to be required to write monthly reports for my Youth Work job relating things to the board of the Church. My shining glory, however, came when I wrote a full-page report that had no punctuation whatsoever... just one long as sentence. They never asked for another report...
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:44:45 PM
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bkchi wrote:
Thanks for the support, guys. I thought for sure I'd get roasted for this one. BlooMilk Keep an eye out for my continuing Unwelcome Education series where I discuss the differences between to/too/two, there/their/they're, whose/who's, and its/it's! I may even throw in some Spanish and discuss to/too/two/tú/tu (and Usted). Don't ask me what vosotros means, I never learned. Huh


Please don't, there's enough spam already. Will this get locked soon please before everyone starts making irrelevant posts about things that annoy them? I got a few about designated hitters, Spanish fishing policy, and some of the AA.org board members.
kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:08:38 PM
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Don't get me started on the AA! (That's Automobile Association, right? Those car-driving b*ard-members) (The * is in place of an 'o')

Eat's that!
wannabe mexican
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:31:52 PM
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SuperYodaMan wrote:
I think you'd also hate the German language, because they've decided that it's correct to randomly capitalize certain nouns in their sentences (no offense intended toward Germans, just good humor).LOL

Thanks for posting this by the way, bkchi. ThumpUp Not many things annoy me more than poor grammar (you're not doing good, you're doing well!) and poor punctuation ThumbDown ; I don't own a cell phone but, if I did, I would text in full sentences... with punctuation (*gasp*). OMG
LOL


Germans capitalize ALL nouns, which means I have had to devote whole lessons to games such as "spot the noun" while teaching English here.

Also, one of the funniest examples of doing well vs. doing good is in 30 Rock when Tracy Jordan meets Harvard guy, I don't know how to spell his name.

Tracy: How are you?
Harvard: I'm doing good (in an attempt to belittle Tracy)
Tracy: No. Superman does good. You are doing well. You should brush up on your grammar.

Makes me laugh to this day. And is much funnier in the show than written in a forum.
qvos
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:01:14 PM
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Sorry Guy's , I'm a perpetrator of all the above mistakes. I will try and Improve though.
Lobotnik
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:29:20 PM
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wannabe mexican wrote:
SuperYodaMan wrote:
I think you'd also hate the German language, because they've decided that it's correct to randomly capitalize certain nouns in their sentences (no offense intended toward Germans, just good humor).LOL


Germans capitalize ALL nouns, which means I have had to devote whole lessons to games such as "spot the noun" while teaching English here.


Wannabe beat me to it.

The reasons Germans do this is to differentiate between the noun, verb, adverb and adjectival versions of words which can sometimes all be spelt the same but have very fine differences in meaning.

Having said that, they do have very long sentences and I have sometimes seen 1 paragraph per page, said paragraph containing only 3 sentences!

I also had to translate a sentence recently consisting of 35 words and only one of them was a verb...and it was "is"!

It is a very technical language but also a very accurate language which makes it quite difficult sometimes for us English speakers. Luckily they use a lot of English when playing SWMinis lol.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:47:07 PM
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AdmiralMotti89 wrote:
bkchi wrote:
Thanks for the support, guys. I thought for sure I'd get roasted for this one. BlooMilk Keep an eye out for my continuing Unwelcome Education series where I discuss the differences between to/too/two, there/their/they're, whose/who's, and its/it's! I may even throw in some Spanish and discuss to/too/two/tú/tu (and Usted). Don't ask me what vosotros means, I never learned. Huh


Please don't, there's enough spam already. Will this get locked soon please before everyone starts making irrelevant posts about things that annoy them? I got a few about designated hitters, Spanish fishing policy, and some of the AA.org board members.


I'm not sure why you feel this should be locked, but I believe it should be moved to Off-Topic at this point as it has gathered quite a few responses.

I don't think I've ever seen actual "spam" here, which frankly is a bit surprising.
trappedslider
Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:01:36 AM
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swinefeld wrote:
AdmiralMotti89 wrote:
bkchi wrote:
Thanks for the support, guys. I thought for sure I'd get roasted for this one. BlooMilk Keep an eye out for my continuing Unwelcome Education series where I discuss the differences between to/too/two, there/their/they're, whose/who's, and its/it's! I may even throw in some Spanish and discuss to/too/two/tú/tu (and Usted). Don't ask me what vosotros means, I never learned. Huh


Please don't, there's enough spam already. Will this get locked soon please before everyone starts making irrelevant posts about things that annoy them? I got a few about designated hitters, Spanish fishing policy, and some of the AA.org board members.


I'm not sure why you feel this should be locked, but I believe it should be moved to Off-Topic at this point as it has gathered quite a few responses.

I don't think I've ever seen actual "spam" here, which frankly is a bit surprising.


you've never seen here? well now you have Razz
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