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Have you guys heard anything about a different company taking over the SWM license? I'm just wondering if we're going to be seeing new minis anytime soon.
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None at all. Only way we'll be seeing new minis is through the V-Sets. The license has been on sale for a year now so the chances are looking less and less in our favor =o(
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From the rumor mill (i.e. another thread that's on the front page): hothie wrote:gwek wrote: I want PHYSICAL minis that I can hold in my hand. " Patience. They'll be here soon. ;) Not saying that I'm going to invest in them, but I'm pretty sure the quality of them will be first rate. I know nothing. Just propagating rumors.
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Ahhhh, don't you just wish you had a large company with production facilities at your fingertips so you could just buy it yourself and start it up again?
Such a shame:(
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FlyingArrow wrote:From the rumor mill (i.e. another thread that's on the front page): hothie wrote:gwek wrote: I want PHYSICAL minis that I can hold in my hand. " Patience. They'll be here soon. ;) Not saying that I'm going to invest in them, but I'm pretty sure the quality of them will be first rate. I know nothing. Just propagating rumors. Im thinking that hothie MIGHT (Im just guessing) be hinting at a SWM-like game; but not exactly alike (whether it be rules; figures; whatever thats different from our current game). Hence why he was talking about investing in them. Just my two cents.
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I don't think i'd invest in a new star wars mini's game. Ive put a lot of time and money into this one, and I know that if someone else started making a new game, it would not be compatible with this one. The minis give me entertainment, and have the added benefit of working the the Saga line. I just dont think i'll bother with the loss of money and apartment space if the game has a future with a different company.
Now... if the new game was compatible with the current one... we'd have something further to discuss.
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adamb0nd wrote:I don't think i'd invest in a new star wars mini's game. Ive put a lot of time and money into this one, and I know that if someone else started making a new game, it would not be compatible with this one. The minis give me entertainment, and have the added benefit of working the the Saga line. I just dont think i'll bother with the loss of money and apartment space if the game has a future with a different company.
Now... if the new game was compatible with the current one... we'd have something further to discuss. My thoughts exactly. Youd hope that a company would realize that if they pciked up the license and started a new game they would lose about 80 percent or more of the 'old' SWM community.
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Something else that would probably work pretty well... a game at the same scale in some other scifi universe. People already borrow from D&D minis for some proxies/customs. A Star Trek, Stargate, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactaca, whatever, ... would offer new poses, aliens, etc. Not a perfect match, but probably more likely than a new SW game in the same scale.
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The best comparison for this is Heroclix. For those of you that don't know the story,
Heroclix is a game based on Comics(DC, Marvel, Indy, etc), and was produced by Wizkids. A few years ago, a company called Topps purchased Wizkids for a sportsclix line they had, but this had no affect on Heroclix. After maintaining it for several years they decided, despite stellar sales of Heroclix, to cut Wizkids and it's products. The game remained in limbo for over a year, the communities main website(much more populated then this, swmgamers, and wotc' swms section combined) had people getting information from all over. Over time it came down to 2 companies bidding on it. Eventually, NECA purchased Wizkids and within a year sales were back, and a year after that many of the people who jumped shipped after the announcement of it's closing had come back. While it has been some time since WOTC dropped it, there is no reason to think it won't be bought.
And as for COMBINING sci-fi miniature games, first of all Star Trek's license is held by NECA making Star Trek Clix, so that's not even up for discussion. But, the idea of it is not as "fun" as you may think. Combining those franchises with Star Wars makes no sense, and will DRAMATICALLY hurt the fun factor for the majority of it's players. Even for something like Comics, where they transition universes on a daily basis, mixing Justice League, and Star Trek is stupid at best. Individual games isn't bad, but combining them, especially with something like Star Wars that is completely isolated, isn't a good idea.
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The idea of combining Star Trek and other universes into SWM is simply to create another possible source for figures that could proxy in as SWM characters in the coming V-Sets. It is not about mixing the universes.
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DarkLordVerjal wrote: Eventually, NECA purchased Wizkids and within a year sales were back, and a year after that many of the people who jumped shipped after the announcement of it's closing had come back. While it has been some time since WOTC dropped it, there is no reason to think it won't be bought. The difference between this and Heroclix is night and day. WOTC will not sell it's game mechanics to a competitor, even if they are out of the CMG business. The Star Wars miniature license was likely bought. There is no way this game is being continued, however.
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Sithborg wrote:The Star Wars miniature license was likely bought. There is no way this game is being continued, however. There's always the chance of something happening. However slim that may be, there is still a chance. Unless you work for the company that bought it, or is planning to buy it. I don't see how you can say "no way." Maybe "unlikely" or "highly doubtful," but not "no way."
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I am not sure I understand why. The "Clix" dial system is patented and it was still able to be produced after it's purchase, but perhaps you can explain why this game cannot be continued. I apologize if I am coming off as hostile, I am just not sure why this game can't be continued. If they sold the License, why would the game be held back.
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SquelchDog wrote:Sithborg wrote:The Star Wars miniature license was likely bought. There is no way this game is being continued, however. There's always the chance of something happening. However slim that may be, there is still a chance. Unless you work for the company that bought it, or is planning to buy it. I don't see how you can say "no way." Maybe "unlikely" or "highly doubtful," but not "no way." We are talking about a company that spent who knows how much to buy the CCG license to rush out a product, essentially to kill thier biggest competitor. We are aware of the range Decipher was willing to pay to keep the SW license, and that WOTC turned down the offer to buy their mechanics. Topps dropped Wizkids, not Heroclix. That would be like Hasbro putting WOTC up for sale. What happened here, was that WOTC did not renew their license to produce Star Wars product. They still have all the rights to the mechanics and images they created using the license. A company can buy the Star Wars license from LFL, but to continue this game, they would have to also buy the license to WOTC's mechanics and images. Plenty of people are willing to buy the Star Wars license, not so many would be willing to buy it from WOTC, if they were willing to sell, which the indicated they were not.
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Fair point. I will remaining ignorantly optimistic for the time being though.
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Honestly, new minis close in scale is just as good as the game continuing. I trust the crew in place to make some fun minis out of new sculpts.
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:Fair point. I will remaining ignorantly optimistic for the time being though. That makes two of us, lol. 
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Sithborg wrote:Honestly, new minis close in scale is just as good as the game continuing. I trust the crew in place to make some fun minis out of new sculpts. For us yes, that would be nice too. That has been my hope from the "beginning of the end" anyway. 
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I found another discussion about this on the WOTC forums: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/26450837/New_company_with_SWM_license"Another company beat us to it."
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The idea of have 2 separate miniature games for star wars, that are extremely similar but not compatible discourages me. Myself personally wouldn't go through the hassle of learning a new game, but it wouldn't stop me from buying minis to use for proxies. If they are overly expensive, I can't imagine spending top dollar for proxies.
I am fully aware I don't speak for everyone, but I imagine there is many people who feel the same way.
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