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Sithborg wrote:Also, Happy Thanksgiving
Darth Wryylok III
Sith
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Cost: 20
HP: 60 Def: 17 Atk: +7 Dam: 0
Unique, Melee Attack
Booming Voice
Opportunist +20
FP: Force 3
Force Lightning 2
Force Stun
CE: Sith Followers without the Affinity Special Ability gain Backlash.
Jedi Training Droid
New Republic
39/60
Cost: 12
HP: 40 Def: 10 Atk: +1 Dam: 10
SA: Droid, Melee Attack
Mimetic Combat Processor neither are bad pieces. Wryylok: Pros: FIlls in the need for a booming voice for sith. Grants many of the older sith and followers backlach, which helps. Cons : Low damage output, low force, no twin attack, and very few force powers, pluss no synergy of any type for krayte. THese are not complaints just observations. ANd possibly suggestions for future versions. Jedi Training Droid: Pros: MIMETIC COMBAT PROCESSOR on another Piece!!! CHeap cost, and interesting idea. Cons: NO Republic/OR ? Agile seems like it would make sense also. along with Parry
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countrydude82487 wrote:
neither are bad pieces.
Wryylok:
Pros: FIlls in the need for a booming voice for sith. Grants many of the older sith and followers backlach, which helps.
Cons : Low damage output, low force, no twin attack, and very few force powers, pluss no synergy of any type for krayte.
THese are not complaints just observations. ANd possibly suggestions for future versions.
Jedi Training Droid:
Pros: MIMETIC COMBAT PROCESSOR on another Piece!!! CHeap cost, and interesting idea.
Cons: NO Republic/OR ? Agile seems like it would make sense also. along with Parry
I'd say Booming Voice is a good enough synergy with Krayt, since it means he gets the double attack wherever he is for a possible 40 damage. He can also get renewal for just 11 points with HoloSid.
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D-Dub isn't a follower so no extra attack for him. :-(
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saber1 wrote:D-Dub isn't a follower so no extra attack for him. :-( With 60 hp 17 defense and 7 attack you wouldnt dare stick your head out until endgame anyway. He's a 20 point tech piece that can get a lighting off once and maybe catch someone with opportunist. More than likely if he's attacking Krayt is either already dead or about to be. :-)
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Galactic Funk wrote:saber1 wrote:D-Dub isn't a follower so no extra attack for him. :-( With 60 hp 17 defense and 7 attack you wouldnt dare stick your head out until endgame anyway. He's a 20 point tech piece that can get a lighting off once and maybe catch someone with opportunist. More than likely if he's attacking Krayt is either already dead or about to be. :-) I was merely pointing out to Darth O that he doesn't gain from his Master's CE. I'm not expecting the world for only 20 points.
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Yeah, I wasn't trying to get after you. I just get a little perplexed sometimes when people start complaining immediately about pieces before seeing what they can do. I mean, doesn't this piece give board wide swap to the Sith ? Not to mention the +10 fromBandon and let you do it all with ease and not mess with mice!
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Galactic Funk wrote:Yeah, I wasn't trying to get after you. I just get a little perplexed sometimes when people start complaining immediately about pieces before seeing what they can do. I mean, doesn't this piece give board wide swap to the Sith ? Not to mention the +10 fromBandon and let you do it all with ease and not mess with mice! My only complaints are this: 1) 0 damage for a Sith Lord? Couldn't he have base 20 with Opportunist 10? Just feels weird. 2) The title "Darth Wyyrlock III, Voice of the Emperor" feels more fitting. Other than those two minor annoyances (which are more flavor than function), he will work well. The Training Droid will be awesome in the Seps (via droid reserves). Dooku Droids! Activate! Also, HK-47 boosting D on these guys when they are statted similar to Corran Horn or Kyle Katarn.
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markedman247 wrote:
My only complaints are this:
1) 0 damage for a Sith Lord? Couldn't he have base 20 with Opportunist 10? Just feels weird.
2) The title "Darth Wyyrlock III, Voice of the Emperor" feels more fitting.
I had the same feeling about the base stats. However, it's not out of line with WotC's pieces. Just look at a couple of Emp/Palps. Would I have liked to see him with another 10-20 HP? Sure. Do I find it a little awkward he has 0 Damage? Yeah. Could he have been a cool DD partner with Darth Krayt. You bet. However, simply because he didn't turn out exactly how I envisioned doesn't mean I don't like the piece. I applaud the design team's efforts to put him together and he'll certainly be in some of my future Sith squads.
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saber1 wrote:markedman247 wrote:
My only complaints are this:
1) 0 damage for a Sith Lord? Couldn't he have base 20 with Opportunist 10? Just feels weird.
2) The title "Darth Wyyrlock III, Voice of the Emperor" feels more fitting.
I had the same feeling about the base stats. However, it's not out of line with WotC's pieces. Just look at a couple of Emp/Palps. Would I have liked to see him with another 10-20 HP? Sure. Do I find it a little awkward he has 0 Damage? Yeah. Could he have been a cool DD partner with Darth Krayt. You bet. However, simply because he didn't turn out exactly how I envisioned doesn't mean I don't like the piece. I applaud the design team's efforts to put him together and he'll certainly be in some of my future Sith squads. He's not an auto-include but he makes the faction a bit more flexible. Also, I'm a tad bitter that my custom made him in a decent, bad @$$ pose but this version is "Darth Wyyrlock, Motivational Speaker." I need to place the Lightsaber with a microphone and a power point presentation. :)
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The "Without affinity" throws me off. Why the restriction? I'm trying to figure out if this is a balancing mechanic (in which case, which piece was it they were afraid this would break) or if this is a flavor mechanic, in which case, who is he not giving this CE to and why? (Its been a long while since I read the series).
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I think its got to be a balancing mechanic,
Atton "Jaq" Rand
Darth Maul, Sith Infiltrator
Both of these would become very abused, very quickly if Backlash was open to them!
Jaq, would be shouting "Just try and stop me!!", and Maul'd be a one zabrak army!
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adamb0nd wrote:The "Without affinity" throws me off. Why the restriction? I'm trying to figure out if this is a balancing mechanic (in which case, which piece was it they were afraid this would break) or if this is a flavor mechanic, in which case, who is he not giving this CE to and why? (Its been a long while since I read the series). Think of it as affecting the "One True Sith" aka no mixed affiliations for flavor.
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CerousMutor wrote:I think its got to be a balancing mechanic,
Atton "Jaq" Rand
Darth Maul, Sith Infiltrator
Both of these would become very abused, very quickly if Backlash was open to them!
Jaq, would be shouting "Just try and stop me!!", and Maul'd be a one zabrak army! Jaq already has GMA so I don't see him being the target. You may have hit the nail on the head with Maul SI though. He already has ambush doesn't he?
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Galactic Funk wrote:CerousMutor wrote:I think its got to be a balancing mechanic,
Atton "Jaq" Rand
Darth Maul, Sith Infiltrator
Both of these would become very abused, very quickly if Backlash was open to them!
Jaq, would be shouting "Just try and stop me!!", and Maul'd be a one zabrak army! Jaq already has GMA so I don't see him being the target. You may have hit the nail on the head with Maul SI though. He already has ambush doesn't he? Yerp, my mistake. Jag has GMA but Maul does already have Ambush. Ambush and Backlash, that'd be nasty.
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Maybe it is not a Unique to be concerned about. Elite gunners have affinity and disintegration, can get double attack, ability to target force users ignoring cover or sniper, then get ambush. Might not be tough to create an abusive combo. Just looking past the obvious.
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as i said i wasnt complaining, just stating observations....
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I can speak to this a little since I was part of this process.
The CE wasn't always backlash, that came later. Regardless, we knew we didn't want to boost Jaq or Maul anymore. The fact that it doesn't help Kaan either was a nice finishing move.
How do we boost the sith that need it but not the tier 1 pieces?
That coupled with flavor made it move in that direction.
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markedman247 wrote:
Also, I'm a tad bitter that my custom made him in a decent, bad @$$ pose but this version is "Darth Wyyrlock, Motivational Speaker." I need to place the Lightsaber with a microphone and a power point presentation. :)
Speaking of lightsabers since Wyyrlok doesn't have one he can get Sith Weapon from the Alchemist for +10 damage, another +10 from bandon, then if you really want to get crazy ghost him with Exar and use Rage. With Opp +20 you will have an 11 attack for 50 damage. Does that help? :-)
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Galactic Funk wrote:markedman247 wrote:
Also, I'm a tad bitter that my custom made him in a decent, bad @$$ pose but this version is "Darth Wyyrlock, Motivational Speaker." I need to place the Lightsaber with a microphone and a power point presentation. :)
Speaking of lightsabers since Wyyrlok doesn't have one he can get Sith Weapon from the Alchemist for +10 damage, another +10 from bandon, then if you really want to get crazy ghost him with Exar and use Rage. With Opp +20 you will have an 11 attack for 50 damage. Does that help? :-) That's one PO'd motivational speaker. Now, I need to get him a mini to be used as a van down by the river and I am set.
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markedman247 wrote:Galactic Funk wrote:markedman247 wrote:
Also, I'm a tad bitter that my custom made him in a decent, bad @$$ pose but this version is "Darth Wyyrlock, Motivational Speaker." I need to place the Lightsaber with a microphone and a power point presentation. :)
Speaking of lightsabers since Wyyrlok doesn't have one he can get Sith Weapon from the Alchemist for +10 damage, another +10 from bandon, then if you really want to get crazy ghost him with Exar and use Rage. With Opp +20 you will have an 11 attack for 50 damage. Does that help? :-) That's one PO'd motivational speaker. Now, I need to get him a mini to be used as a van down by the river and I am set. lol! +1
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