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StarKiller97 wrote:That fact that you can put a beat stick like Revan in any faction is insane. If I don't see a lot of builds revolved around him I'll be surprised. I haven't played in some time. 100 Points seems rather steep for this beat stick. Do you feel like he is well worth the cost? I assumed some inflation in his price, as Fringe characters typically cost a little more than the other factions due to their adaptability and increased play options.
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He's very hard to shoot. I think that the best faction for him is Imperial, where he can pick up a damage boost and a movement breaker from Thrawn, but I also think you can make better Thrawn squads with a shooter like Cad Bane or Boba AfH - since they're way cheaper you have room for more activations and a good secondary attacker. He could also be good in Sith with lots of force points, or with Talon Karrde's +4 +10, and there are other good builds too.
I don't think he's any stronger than the other 100 point pieces, but it's always hard to tell.
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adamb0nd wrote:StarKiller97 wrote:That fact that you can put a beat stick like Revan in any faction is insane. If I don't see a lot of builds revolved around him I'll be surprised. I haven't played in some time. 100 Points seems rather steep for this beat stick. Do you feel like he is well worth the cost? I assumed some inflation in his price, as Fringe characters typically cost a little more than the other factions due to their adaptability and increased play options. I believe he would do quiet well in Sith squads (lol), with all the boost they've got form this set, with the FS the Sith have. Or even Rebel or NR with levitate and other CE's. Imo he should see some action, I for one will try using him.
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The other 100pt beat sticks haven't seen that much play. Dooku has been the best of the bunch. I think Palpatine will work a lot better with a cheap Vader available. Vader is anti-shooter and Palpatine is anti-melee. Together, I think any "pure" squad will have a rough time. Pure shooters will have a rough time getting to Vader while pure melee will have a rough time with Palpatine.
We'll see how Revan goes. It will be cool to see what people do with him.
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Haha that's fair, but man I tried watching those movies and it felt like a British narrator apologizing to me and explaining what was going on for the length of the movie. Also what's up with the normal earth animals and a movie focused on aliens speaking their language with no subtitles. But to each their own I suppose haha. Can we get Abeloth and NK-- Necrosis now? Haha
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FlyingArrow wrote:The other 100pt beat sticks haven't seen that much play. Dooku has been the best of the bunch. I think Palpatine will work a lot better with a cheap Vader available. Vader is anti-shooter and Palpatine is anti-melee. Together, I think any "pure" squad will have a rough time. Pure shooters will have a rough time getting to Vader while pure melee will have a rough time with Palpatine.
We'll see how Revan goes. It will be cool to see what people do with him. I use Dooku and Palpatine all the time. Really like those ones. And Obi sees occasional play in all melee games
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Rebel for Revan would be the best, that's my conclusion. Yoda as battery and Luke for levitate. Or anything else is rebel really, but as long as you have Yoda, it'll be hard to touch Revan.
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StarKiller97 wrote:Rebel for Revan would be the best, that's my conclusion. Yoda as battery and Luke for levitate. Or anything else is rebel really, but as long as you have Yoda, it'll be hard to touch Revan. Like most of the set, Revan's weakness is enemy melee. He can use Force Bubble, but it eats through force points very quickly and very often will be overkill... you'll spend 3 FP to negate 20 or 30 damage instead of the full 40. Caedus, for example, can hit for 120 Damage at the top of the round if he wins init (Aing-Tii plus regular turn). Revan could theoretically negate all of it... but it costs 12 Force points. And there are a handful of characters with Force Absorb who can negate the Bubble, most notably Mace. But if he has Evade on top of Shien, shooters will have a lot of trouble.
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FlyingArrow wrote:StarKiller97 wrote:Rebel for Revan would be the best, that's my conclusion. Yoda as battery and Luke for levitate. Or anything else is rebel really, but as long as you have Yoda, it'll be hard to touch Revan. Like most of the set, Revan's weakness is enemy melee. He can use Force Bubble, but it eats through force points very quickly and very often will be overkill... you'll spend 3 FP to negate 20 or 30 damage instead of the full 40. Caedus, for example, can hit for 120 Damage at the top of the round if he wins init (Aing-Tii plus regular turn). Revan could theoretically negate all of it... but it costs 12 Force points. And there are a handful of characters with Force Absorb who can negate the Bubble, most notably Mace. But if he has Evade on top of Shien, shooters will have a lot of trouble. That's why I feel that Rebel might be his best bet.
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You could even go with Master Yoda and give Revan Lightsaber Defense so he doesn't have to use Bubble
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For some reason, I'm having the worst time understanding new vader's rival. Could somebody help me with this? like a vader rival for dummies... 
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donnyrides wrote:For some reason, I'm having the worst time understanding new vader's rival. Could somebody help me with this? like a vader rival for dummies... He can't be in squad with a commander, unless they have a force rating or they're a trooper. Stops you using the normal Imperial stuff like Daala, Thrawns, Ozzel, and Pellaeon, and forces you to different builds. Obviously he's good with various Palpatines, but there are probably good builds out there with force users like Atris and Jorus too.
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donnyrides wrote:For some reason, I'm having the worst time understanding new vader's rival. Could somebody help me with this? like a vader rival for dummies... He can't be in a squad with any CE's coming from person, who doesn't have FP or trooper. For ex: Thrawn
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StarKiller97 wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:StarKiller97 wrote:Rebel for Revan would be the best, that's my conclusion. Yoda as battery and Luke for levitate. Or anything else is rebel really, but as long as you have Yoda, it'll be hard to touch Revan. Like most of the set, Revan's weakness is enemy melee. He can use Force Bubble, but it eats through force points very quickly and very often will be overkill... you'll spend 3 FP to negate 20 or 30 damage instead of the full 40. Caedus, for example, can hit for 120 Damage at the top of the round if he wins init (Aing-Tii plus regular turn). Revan could theoretically negate all of it... but it costs 12 Force points. And there are a handful of characters with Force Absorb who can negate the Bubble, most notably Mace. But if he has Evade on top of Shien, shooters will have a lot of trouble. That's why I feel that Rebel might be his best bet. If i were using Revan in rebels, i wouldn't even bother getting him Evade. Its overkill at that point to give it to him. People are already not going to try shooting him with his Shien Style, so Evade kinda is just extra fluff that won't be used because people won't fire at him anyways or if they are forced to, it will be adjacent and thus negate Evade anyways. Giving him Lightsaber Defense is a good idea tho! there are a couple factions that can do that for him, and Rebels is one of them. Would be interesting to see what builds people make with him.
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The other thing about Revan is that he can bring in Sith Recruits with him wherever he goes, which can be handy.
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I've been sitting here for hours and trying to think of a squad revolving around Revan, Returned and I've come to the conclusion that he's not that good. All his FP cost to much, so he needs a battery. That leaves Imps and Rebels, unless you want deep strike with him, and you can bring him into Republic. There aren't many people who can buff his damage. The only thing that's different about Revan compared to the other 100pt characters is his HP(160) and his attack and defense is very high. If anyone can think of good squad with him in it lmk.
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With the lack of CEs he can benefit from, because he has a CE. I'm leaning more towards all fringe squad. That way he gets a sure buff.
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He can get Opportunist in Imperials, but it's hard to out activate with a 100 point piece. In Sith he can get tons of Force and boost damage with both Sith Rage and Bandon.
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I've thought of this too, but I feel as though Caedus is a better choice
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Ha, Jedi Trainees can make 8 attacks with Revan and Whorm. It's not gonna be competitive, but it would be fun to spring on an unsuspecting opponent.
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