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jak wrote:Lord Hethrir
Imperial
57 pts
HP 130
Def 21
Att +13
Dam 20
Special Abilities
Unique. Melee Attack; Double Attack
Jedi Hunter [+4 Attack and +10 Damage against enemies with Force ratings]
Rapport [Characters whose names contain Reborn cost 1 less when in the same squad as this character]
Rival [Cannot be in a squad with any character who counts as Emperor Palpatine]
Waru's Purification [During setup, choose a follower with a Force rating who costs less than Lord Hethrir: that character takes 10 damage. For the rest of the skirmish, the chosen follower counts as a character named Reborn, and Lord Hethrir can spend its Force points, but cannot combine them with his own.]
Force Powers
Force 2. Force Renewal 1; Master of the Force 2
Absorb Energy [Force 2: When hit by a nonmelee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11. Remove damage from this character equal to the prevented damage.]
Sith Hunger [Force 1, replaces attacks: range 6; 20 damage to target living enemy, and remove 20 damage from this character. If the target has Force points remaining, transfer 1 Force point from the target to this character.]
Unleash the Force 60 [Force 4, replaces attacks, usable only after an ally with a Force rating is defeated: 60 damage to all other characters within 6 squares; save 11 to reduce damage to 30].
Commander Effect
Allies whose names contain Reborn gain Force Renewal 1. Unleash the Force in Imperial is potentially awesome, right? He could easily Unleash twice in a row with Ozzel and Thrawn, and he's tough as well. There's an interesting mechanic where he can use a Jedi-Sith Clone as a Force Battery - they seem like a good option as they start with three force points already. But he's expensive and he's not a great attacker apart from Unleash the Force, so if you're playing Thrawn swap you'll probably play him with a mid range shooter like Morrigan or Mira? Seems Tier 2 to me, which is good because the Imperials don't need a Tier 1 Unleash the Force build) but he's fascinating all the same.
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And If you combine him with Desann, you can give a character of your choice +2 starting FP in addition to Renewal. (I THINK that is how the timing works) Its expensive, but might be ok on the right piece, especially someone cheap. Keep in mind the Jedi-Sith Clone is savage, I don't think he is the best battery choice. Human Force Adepts are only one more point, also start with 3 FP and do have the moderately useful Force Alter.
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Yup, you're right that the Human Force Adept is a better choice - I was thinking that Savage wouldn't matter, but I forgot that it was a CE.
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Could be Fun with Barriss Rogue Jedi, Arica, or Vader Scourge.
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--Empire Reborn--
57 Lord Hethrir
39 Desann
32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo)
24 Elite Reborn
10 Human Force Adept
16 Reborn x2
8 Mas Amedda
8 R7 Astromech Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
3 Ugnaught Demolitionst
(200pts. 11 activations)
I don't know if the 2 Reborns will be worth it, but they swap ok and might be able to hold their own for a few hits in melee with all of those Force Points.
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countrydude82487 wrote:Could be Fun with Barriss Rogue Jedi, Arica, or Vader Scourge. I was also thinking about Vader, SoJ. And with Dark Armor he might avoid the 10 damage up front anyway. It might be too expensive to go full Desann suite with him, but just giving him renewal is cool. --Scourge of the Empire Reborn-- 57 Lord Hethrir 55 Darth Vader, Scourge of the Jedi 39 Desann 32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) 8 Mas Amedda 6 Rodian Brute x2 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (200pts. 8 activations) I'm not the best Imperial builder, so I don't know what I would put in after this: --Scourge of the Empire Reborn (Lizardless)-- 57 Lord Hethrir 55 Darth Vader, Scourge of the Jedi 32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) 8 Mas Amedda (152pts. 4 activations)
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Hethrir was made to boost Reborns.
a pile of Reborns in a squad worked really well in PT.
I used Arica in the squad too with great success.
Desann & Hethrir in the same 200 pt squad take up way to pts.
Hethrir makes the Reborns playable
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--Test3--
57 Emperor Roan Fel
31 Arica
75 Elite Reborn x3
23 Reborn Shadowtrooper
8 R7 Astromech Droid
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 9 activations)
Roan is Hethrir
last 4 pts via rapport is for a gran raider
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57 Emperor Roan Fel----- Hethrir
32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo)
31 Arica
27 Lobot
25 Elite Reborn
11 Admiral Ozzel
8 Mas Amedda
3 Mouse Droid
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
this is what I would try out, make arica the purified thingy, she gets +10 damage(?) so she is blasting for 60 instead of forty, then when she dies emperor unleashes on everything
low on acts for having act control, but should be able to even that out pretty easily.
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Have Ghent's stats been spoiled?
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From the WI tournament:
30/45 Dengar on Swoop Bike - cost 35
HP-90
Def-18
Atk-10
Dam-20
Unique
Pilot
Flight
Speed 12
Avoid Defeat
Bounty Hunter +4
Mobile Attack
Proximity Mines 40
Ruthless
Solo Hunter [+4/+10 vs name contains Solo]
Vehicle
7/45 Gloom Walker Infiltrator - cost 13
HP-50
Def-16
Atk-8
Dam-10
Trooper
Flight
Gauntlet Knife +20
Mobile Attack
Rapport [cost -2 when with Dessel]
Satchel Charge
Stealth
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Top post updated :-)
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Lily_Wan wrote:From the WI tournament:
30/45 Dengar on Swoop Bike - cost 35
HP-90
Def-18
Atk-10
Dam-20
Unique
Pilot
Flight
Speed 12
Avoid Defeat
Bounty Hunter +4
Mobile Attack
Proximity Mines 40
Ruthless
Solo Hunter [+4/+10 vs name contains Solo]
Vehicle
That looks awesome. Vehicle is an excellent touch. And Bria Tharen? That's awesome!
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Nice! Love Dengar! Vehicle is great
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CorellianComedian wrote:Lily_Wan wrote:From the WI tournament:
30/45 Dengar on Swoop Bike - cost 35
HP-90
Def-18
Atk-10
Dam-20
Unique
Pilot
Flight
Speed 12
Avoid Defeat
Bounty Hunter +4
Mobile Attack
Proximity Mines 40
Ruthless
Solo Hunter [+4/+10 vs name contains Solo]
Vehicle
That looks awesome. Vehicle is an excellent touch. And Bria Tharen? That's awesome! To bad he doesnt have strafe or gallop...  To soon?? 
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atmsalad wrote:CorellianComedian wrote:Lily_Wan wrote:From the WI tournament:
30/45 Dengar on Swoop Bike - cost 35
HP-90
Def-18
Atk-10
Dam-20
Unique
Pilot
Flight
Speed 12
Avoid Defeat
Bounty Hunter +4
Mobile Attack
Proximity Mines 40
Ruthless
Solo Hunter [+4/+10 vs name contains Solo]
Vehicle
That looks awesome. Vehicle is an excellent touch. And Bria Tharen? That's awesome! To bad he doesnt have strafe or gallop... To soon?? Come on now......I really like him as a deep striker in a commander squad. Seems a little high costed would of liked to see 32 but o well.
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With Charging +10 from Cad Bane he can run 24 squares and ping something for 30. Useful if someone doesn't protect a vital piece like Dodonna or Mas.
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TheHutts wrote:With Charging +10 from Cad Bane he can run 24 squares and ping something for 30. Useful if someone doesn't protect a vital piece like Dodonna or Mas. Even better, he can FLY 24 squares Both Bounty Hunter and Pilot are nice things to have nowadays. He might slot well in a few different places.
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atmsalad wrote:CorellianComedian wrote:Lily_Wan wrote:From the WI tournament:
30/45 Dengar on Swoop Bike - cost 35
HP-90
Def-18
Atk-10
Dam-20
Unique
Pilot
Flight
Speed 12
Avoid Defeat
Bounty Hunter +4
Mobile Attack
Proximity Mines 40
Ruthless
Solo Hunter [+4/+10 vs name contains Solo]
Vehicle
That looks awesome. Vehicle is an excellent touch. And Bria Tharen? That's awesome! To bad he doesnt have strafe or gallop... To soon?? Lol. Yeah we didn't want another broken piece. The goal was fun and useable, Cad Bane BH being an obvious pairing. Flying mobile speedy proximity mines should be fun too. Delivery system for Dengar Hired Killer (most likely). I fun little twist is that once he hops off the bike, he loses avoid defeat.
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There was some more stuff on SHNN last week too, right? Sylvar Betrayed Jedi seemed like a very useful piece for OR.
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