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AndyHatton
Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:09:28 PM
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SignerJ wrote:
I love the Death Watch Overlord, but am I the only one bugged about the fact that the special ability Bas'lan Shev'la has almost no similarities with what Bas'lan Shev'la actually is?


I'm not 100% sure what it is but a quick googling seems to imply it means "Strategic Dissapearance." a mini swap is sorta similar to that. Or rather at least one person is dissapearing
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:50:23 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
SignerJ wrote:
I love the Death Watch Overlord, but am I the only one bugged about the fact that the special ability Bas'lan Shev'la has almost no similarities with what Bas'lan Shev'la actually is?


I'm not 100% sure what it is but a quick googling seems to imply it means "Strategic Dissapearance." a mini swap is sorta similar to that. Or rather at least one person is dissapearing


This, combined with the CE, is precisely how the Death Watch took this phrase to heart.
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Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:51:14 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
Thoughts on who to bring in with Farfalla for some Army of Light boosts? the Mirialan Jedi Knight seems like a good choice. Not too many of the generic troopers are better than the new Army of Light grunt who gets pretty nice with Farfalla. And Lord Hoth Leading the way? I think Army of Light is going to be a fun little subfaction, especially with a solid 5 pointer to build on since Hoth, Bastilla, and Farfalla add up to a decent chunk (though you save points with Farfalla's OR Reserves


OH And I think I see where Swinefeld spoiled that ability early! On Lord Hoth? he now has Army of Light


I was thinking of the Covenant Executor, he fits right in and is already a bargain at 19 points. Add all the rest and he's got tons of potential damage he can do. 20 base plus Army of Lights Prideful, so if he is attacking a Sith Droid with ABM on he gets a grand total of two attacks with +23 attack at 60 damage. Realistically he will only see +15 and 40 damage, but that's on par with Farfalla.

Now for Farfalla's CE, does every character brought in get +1 force, even if they didn't start with a force rating? I'm thinking so which is great!
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Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 3:01:18 PM
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Deathwielded wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
Thoughts on who to bring in with Farfalla for some Army of Light boosts? the Mirialan Jedi Knight seems like a good choice. Not too many of the generic troopers are better than the new Army of Light grunt who gets pretty nice with Farfalla. And Lord Hoth Leading the way? I think Army of Light is going to be a fun little subfaction, especially with a solid 5 pointer to build on since Hoth, Bastilla, and Farfalla add up to a decent chunk (though you save points with Farfalla's OR Reserves


OH And I think I see where Swinefeld spoiled that ability early! On Lord Hoth? he now has Army of Light


I was thinking of the Covenant Executor, he fits right in and is already a bargain at 19 points. Add all the rest and he's got tons of potential damage he can do. 20 base plus Army of Lights Prideful, so if he is attacking a Sith Droid with ABM on he gets a grand total of two attacks with +23 attack at 60 damage. Realistically he will only see +15 and 40 damage, but that's on par with Farfalla.

Now for Farfalla's CE, does every character brought in get +1 force, even if they didn't start with a force rating? I'm thinking so which is great!


The covenant is probably a nice choice, but I still think the Mirialan is a better deal. With Prideful she will Twin at +13 for 40 damage. She does not get the situational damage boosts but she can get where she wants a little quicker and hit twice (though with a little less attack.) And when she is there she is going to be hard to hit with melee attacks. The Executor is definetly a good choice in a few match ups but how many Sith Droids do we see now-a-days?

That is how I was reading his CE, that it just gives anyone a +1

The Celestial Warrior wrote:
This, combined with the CE, is precisely how the Death Watch took this phrase to heart.


That little swap definetly seemed to fit Death Watch tactics to me.

The Celestial Warrior
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Deathwielded wrote:


Now for Farfalla's CE, does every character brought in get +1 force, even if they didn't start with a force rating? I'm thinking so which is great!


Yeah, basically a way to make a small contingent Army of Light to build up a sub-faction. Most of them were Force Sensitive in some way.
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Kam will be fun with Tionne to bring Obi, Jedi Padawan and qui-ghost into the NR
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Kam will be fun with Tionne to bring Obi, Jedi Padawan and qui-ghost into the NR


Agreed. They are an intriguing pair for the NR. Very interesting squad building options.

Along those lines, I have a feeling Bariss and Dray might be unusual pieces. Looking forward to their reveals.
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saber1 wrote:
harryg wrote:
Kam will be fun with Tionne to bring Obi, Jedi Padawan and qui-ghost into the NR


Agreed. They are an intriguing pair for the NR. Very interesting squad building options.

Along those lines, I have a feeling Bariss and Dray might be unusual pieces. Looking forward to their reveals.


They look like very fun pieces. Interesting that they acknowledged that Exar Kun could come in through Gantoris.
The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:58:39 PM
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Interesting that they acknowledged that Exar Kun could come in through Gantoris.


Why? That's kind of a major story arc in the Jedi Search Trilogy
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Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:02:53 PM
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I think he means Tionne's CE also affects Dark Force Spirits so that it works with Exar and Gantoris
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
Interesting that they acknowledged that Exar Kun could come in through Gantoris.


Why? That's kind of a major story arc in the Jedi Search Trilogy


I know, but the Jedi weren't exactly allied with Kun. I'm happy they choose to do that though. The +2 speed is very helpful.
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AndyHatton wrote:
I think he means Tionne's CE also affects Dark Force Spirits so that it works with Exar and Gantoris


Originally, the CE was much longer, having to compensate for all the different types of ghosts SA's in the game, but then we decided there were no characters who would bring any of those other ones in and shortened to the only two that would apply.
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Posted: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:10:48 PM
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Oppo Rancisis Wow even better than I expected! He fill helps fill in several thing the Republic was missing! I figured Force Meditation was going to be on him and I love it! Attack and (basically) defense boosts without GOWK. Plus he offers some more anti-movement breaking options!
He is the perfect partner for Pong Krell since he doesn't have a CE and boosts the Clones nicely! The only thing is Tactician might hurt his Reserves chances slightly...
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Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
Interesting that they acknowledged that Exar Kun could come in through Gantoris.


Why? That's kind of a major story arc in the Jedi Search Trilogy


I know, but the Jedi weren't exactly allied with Kun. I'm happy they choose to do that though. The +2 speed is very helpful.


The tricky part was making it so that the major benefit was to Gantoris, per the story. The PT'ers kept using him with others--essentially a 50+ force ghost. Kun did make Gantoris more powerful, but not others. We even considered a self destruct feature but decided the option to haunt others, at a decrease to Gantoris was sufficient.
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Krell with Kazdan makes reserves gives reserves squads a whole lot more weight!
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Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
Krell with Kazdan makes reserves gives reserves squads a whole lot more weight!


There's....zero synergy there. You're essentially spamming activations at that point, and the immediate part makes for easy points for the enemy with the droids. The clones at least have a chance to survive or boost their comrades.

I tried it, opponent got to 200 and didn't really touch my original squad.
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Awww, Valenthyne Farfalla doesn't get his own Prideful bonus.Crying Oh well still one of my faves!
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
Krell with Kazdan makes reserves gives reserves squads a whole lot more weight!


There's....zero synergy there. You're essentially spamming activations at that point, and the immediate part makes for easy points for the enemy with the droids. The clones at least have a chance to survive or boost their comrades.
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I tried it, opponent got to 200 and didn't really touch my original squad.


Well that's good to know. There's a player I know who frequently uses a reserves squad with Kazdan, Lobot CLO, Mon Mothma, and Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. He usually gets about 200 points of extra characters and then swarms the opponent. Take out Palpatine and Mothma to replace them with Krell, increases your odds.
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Dray is really good! That force vision is great for dash, Rex, etc. and the dark master for any faction is also awesome!
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Posted: Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:05:55 AM
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My cards came. They look great. most noticeable thing to me right off the bat is that the team seems to have come up with some solid solutions to make trooper squads more competitive.
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