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kezzamachine
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:27:30 AM
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(And that's without Lando!)
markedman247
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Edit: I found the answer in the Garm/Ossus Guardian precedent. Never mind. Does mean that Han-GH could get Pilot.
adamb0nd
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:46:38 AM
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I like this lando. Greater mobile and opp+double is a nice boost from Lando DS. The CE is OK... i feel like a +4 across the board for pilots wouldn't have been broken, but I guess a good player can use this to have a +4 bonus from cover for ranged, and CE for adjacent. The boost he gives to Han will go a long way.

However, I feel like they could have pushed his abilities further. Giving Han pilot will certain make our han pieces much more deadly (mobile attack speed 8 is yummy), but, while Pilot can't be canceled, all the boosts that pilot get are ce based, so, ABM is still uncountered.

Nein Numb is now a 12 point Pilot. But for 12 points, he still isn't work playing, even with the abilities that are now open to him. There are just too many better options. I suppose if you're looking for an entirely pilot themed squad, or a RoTJ Themed squad, now he's more playable, but if we're talking theme squads, you're going to throw numb into the mix regardless of his cost or usefulness. For 1 point more you can get porkins and lose speed 8 and 1 defence for access to grenades and NS. Or you could get Baby wedge and get +2 def and a whole slew of abilities. For 12pts, 50 is the max HP a fig gets, and that does place him in the top percentile for HP to Cost ratio, but I just don't know that he's really worth considering at this point anymore than he was before.

That being said, i'll give him a try. adamb0nd has been known to make mistakes... from time to time
Sithborg
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:06:10 AM
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Not broken, perhaps, but the adjacency was more thematic, imo. He did have them go up near the Star Destroyers.

And the Pilot to Nien Numb and Han were there primarily for thematic reasons, as those were some of the oldest complaints when Universe was released.
kezzamachine
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:10:34 AM
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Just to clarify, my claims of Nunb being 'broken' must be classes as humour, whether good or bad humour, I cannot say.
markedman247
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:49:58 AM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Just to clarify, my claims of Nunb being 'broken' must be classes as humour, whether good or bad humour, I cannot say.


I sensed your humor. My Epic 299 pt Nien Nunb laughs at your hyperbole with speed that makes Chuck Norris weep. :)
adamb0nd
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So... question, what are all the pilot specific buffs you can put on nunb now?

Speed 8
+4 attack +10 damage against adjacent
+4 defense vs adjacent
Evade
markedman247
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adamb0nd wrote:
So... question, what are all the pilot specific buffs you can put on nunb now?

Speed 8
+4 attack +10 damage against adjacent
+4 defense vs adjacent
Evade


Conditionally, Grenades 30 (provided you give him Grenades 10)
adamb0nd
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:09:40 AM
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markedman247 wrote:
adamb0nd wrote:
So... question, what are all the pilot specific buffs you can put on nunb now?

Speed 8
+4 attack +10 damage against adjacent
+4 defense vs adjacent
Evade


Conditionally, Grenades 30 (provided you give him Grenades 10)


How could you get him Grenades 10?

Black Market Engine Modifications and Ground Pilot +2
Flanking Support
adamb0nd
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:15:54 AM
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I like that this lando also boosts cloud car pilots. Now if only he coulda boosted the standard Bespin guard.
markedman247
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:17:45 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
adamb0nd wrote:
So... question, what are all the pilot specific buffs you can put on nunb now?

Speed 8
+4 attack +10 damage against adjacent
+4 defense vs adjacent
Evade


Conditionally, Grenades 30 (provided you give him Grenades 10)


How could you get him Grenades 10?

Black Market Engine Modifications and Ground Pilot +2
Flanking Support


Rodian Trader gives Grenades 10
dreadtech
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:15:29 PM
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Sets looking good so far, well done guys.
knappskirata
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When is the official release date
501 Trooper
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:29:40 PM
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adamb0nd wrote:
However, I feel like they could have pushed his abilities further. Giving Han pilot will certain make our han pieces much more deadly (mobile attack speed 8 is yummy), but, while Pilot can't be canceled, all the boosts that pilot get are ce based, so, ABM is still uncountered.

ABM is countered by the vong.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 4:00:30 PM
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501 Trooper wrote:
adamb0nd wrote:
However, I feel like they could have pushed his abilities further. Giving Han pilot will certain make our han pieces much more deadly (mobile attack speed 8 is yummy), but, while Pilot can't be canceled, all the boosts that pilot get are ce based, so, ABM is still uncountered.

ABM is countered by the vong.


Which Vong help Han Solo?
501 Trooper
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None. I'm just stating that ABM's counter is vong. Combine that with a SS not affected by Force sense, and you've got the best fraction ever.
AndyHatton
Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 4:35:36 PM
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501 Trooper wrote:
None. I'm just stating that ABM's counter is vong. Combine that with a SS not affected by Force sense, and you've got the best fraction ever.


Right, but people were talking about Rebel Pilot squads being hurt by ABM. Vong do not help the Rebels.
fingersandteeth
Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:11:33 AM
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knappskirata wrote:
When is the official release date


Release looks to be a little later this year

March 1st
knappskirata
Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:27:06 AM
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Just in case anyone wanted to know, I playtested Vset 5 Boss Nass. Will have play report in the play reports forum soon. Can't wait for him to release.
dreadtech
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knappskirata wrote:
Just in case anyone wanted to know, I playtested Vset 5 Boss Nass. Will have play report in the play reports forum soon. Can't wait for him to release.


Well since so few members have access to that forum?
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