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Personally, I'd like to not only see a Boba Fett that represents the essence of who he is, but also be competitive. The greater mobile double twin evade shooters replaced him in a way. In a way! I'm sorry...if you put Cad Bane and Boba Fett in a locked room...Boba Fett would be the one to walk out. I want to see the Boba Fett that does that!!! I'm not asking for a powerhouse...or for Boba to replace Cad Bane...just a Boba that competes in the meta.
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krazykay11 wrote:Personally, I'd like to not only see a Boba Fett that represents the essence of who he is, but also be competitive. The greater mobile double twin evade shooters replaced him in a way. In a way! I'm sorry...if you put Cad Bane and Boba Fett in a locked room...Boba Fett would be the one to walk out. I want to see the Boba Fett that does that!!! I'm not asking for a powerhouse...or for Boba to replace Cad Bane...just a Boba that competes in the meta. You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. As for a Boba that competes in the meta, we have 3 currently. So since you aren't thinking any of Boba BH, Boba Merc or Boba MC are competitive, than I can only think you must want only a tier 1 instant insert Boba. After all, that's all our game is missing these days in terms of representing (over representing really) a very minor character.
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billiv15 wrote:krazykay11 wrote:Personally, I'd like to not only see a Boba Fett that represents the essence of who he is, but also be competitive. The greater mobile double twin evade shooters replaced him in a way. In a way! I'm sorry...if you put Cad Bane and Boba Fett in a locked room...Boba Fett would be the one to walk out. I want to see the Boba Fett that does that!!! I'm not asking for a powerhouse...or for Boba to replace Cad Bane...just a Boba that competes in the meta. You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. As for a Boba that competes in the meta, we have 3 currently. So since you aren't thinking any of Boba BH, Boba Merc or Boba MC are competitive, than I can only think you must want only a tier 1 instant insert Boba. After all, that's all our game is missing these days in terms of representing (over representing really) a very minor character. Actually I am pretty sure boba does not die right there, he actually escapes the sarlaac. But, that is in the E.U. so, i guess it is up for debate. I also believe that boba fett is better then cad bane, but in a different way. I like cad bane's piece and I happen to like Boba Enforcer, Boba Mercenary, pretty much all of them except Bounty Hunter. Do we need a new Boba.... i'd like to see jango, or a new aurra sing, heck maybe even a new kol skywalker, just because I like him lol
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billiv15 wrote:krazykay11 wrote:Personally, I'd like to not only see a Boba Fett that represents the essence of who he is, but also be competitive. The greater mobile double twin evade shooters replaced him in a way. In a way! I'm sorry...if you put Cad Bane and Boba Fett in a locked room...Boba Fett would be the one to walk out. I want to see the Boba Fett that does that!!! I'm not asking for a powerhouse...or for Boba to replace Cad Bane...just a Boba that competes in the meta. You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. As for a Boba that competes in the meta, we have 3 currently. So since you aren't thinking any of Boba BH, Boba Merc or Boba MC are competitive, than I can only think you must want only a tier 1 instant insert Boba. After all, that's all our game is missing these days in terms of representing (over representing really) a very minor character. Actually, Boba Fett did a lot. All we ever see Cad Bane in is the Clone Wars cartoon series. Boba Fett appears all over the place in both the comics and books. Who was it who took over as Mandalore after the death of Fenn Shysa? Boba Fett.Who was it who first encountered the Vong? Boba Fett. Who was it who tipped off the Jedi that the Vong were coming? Boba Fett. Who trains Jaina Solo in Mandalorian fighting techniques that she uses to defeat her brother Darth Caedus? Boba Fett...who appears frequently in the Legacy book series. Not to mention his fight with Mace Windu in the Supreme Chancellor's chambers. The two of them fought until they were both bloodied and bruised. The fight was ended by Palpatine. Did I mention that Fett was not quite thirteen at this time? Fett also duked it out with Vader. Vader may have been the stronger, but who else can say they got to shoot Vader in the face and live to tell about it? That's an awful lot for a very minor character. Who escaped from the Sarlacc? Apparently, Boba Fett who was defeated by a nearly blind man. After all...it was Han Solo who did it...with the help of Chewbacca while Fett was distracted trying to shoot Luke Skywalker. Yes, I'm sure that was epic, but for a secondary character, Fett is the man! Don't get me wrong...I do like Cad Bane, a lot actually. However, I was using him as an example of how a character with far less exposure in the Star Wars universe has replaced a character with far more exposure like Boba Fett. Fett appears in the Clone wars series, three movies, several comics and books, as well as Battlefront II, The Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition and The Force Unleashed II. Boba Fett may be one of my favorite characters, but I won't argue about my love of this character. I'll let the testimony of the Star Wars community do that. Boba Fett is the most popular bounty hunter character, the most popular Mandalorian character, as well as one of the most popular non-Jedi characters. You may not believe our game needs another Boba Fett, but this is a forum discussing what we would like to see in another Boba Fett if one was made.
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Jester007 wrote:Maybe there should be father and son pieces in the next set or two. Just something else to think about. The name of the next set is Vengeance. I wonder.
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swinefeld wrote:Jester007 wrote:Maybe there should be father and son pieces in the next set or two. Just something else to think about. The name of the next set is Vengeance. I wonder. I was thinking the same thing..... I think the epic mandalorian shoulda been a jango who could actually kill 3 jedi with his bare hands (and a garote wire)
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billiv15 wrote:You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. As for a Boba that competes in the meta, we have 3 currently. So since you aren't thinking any of Boba BH, Boba Merc or Boba MC are competitive, than I can only think you must want only a tier 1 instant insert Boba. After all, that's all our game is missing these days in terms of representing (over representing really) a very minor character. Hang on... you talk like the only Star Wars that exists is the movies, and nothing ever happens in the EU, and that Boba's never done anything cool, and then you talk about how many Jedi CAD BANE has defeated? A character who was created exclusively for an EU kids show on Cartoon Network?!? Cad is WAY more of a minor character than Boba, and you're being willfully ignorant if you try to argue otherwise. Here's Cad Bane's "appearances" section from Wookieepedia: Quote:Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Forces of Darkness
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Stand Aside - Bounty Hunters!
Star Wars: The Clone Wars Secret Missions 1: Breakout Squad
Star Wars: The Clone Wars Secret Missions 2: Curse of the Black Hole Pirates
Star Wars: The Clone Wars Secret Missions 3: Duel at Shattered Rock
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes
Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures – "Card Commander"
Cad Bane: Jedi Hunter
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Holocron Heist"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Holocron Heist
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Holocron Hunters
The Clone Wars: Act on Instinct
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Cargo of Doom"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Children of the Force"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Children of the Force
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Lightsaber Lost" (Appears in "newsreel" only)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "The Mandalore Plot" (Appears in "newsreel" only)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Evil Plans"
The Clone Wars: Invitation Only (First appearance)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Hostage Crisis"
The Clone Wars: Hunting the Hunters (Part I)
Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures – "Crisis Ziro"
The Clone Wars: Hunting the Hunters (Part III) (Mentioned only)
HoloNet News — A Galaxy Divided (Part 1) (Mentioned only)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Hunt for Ziro"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Way of the Warrior
"Spices & Spies" - Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.15
"Outgunned" - Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.20
The Clone Wars: Season Four And here's Boba Fett's: Quote:Star Wars: Bounty Hunter (Mentioned only)
Star Wars: Jango Fett
Star Wars: Zam Wesell
Star Wars Adventures 4: Jango Fett vs. the Razor Eaters
Star Wars Adventures 5: The Shape-Shifter Strikes
Star Wars Adventures 6: The Warlords of Balmorra
Star Wars: Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett, Part 1
Star Wars: Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett, Part 2
Star Wars: Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett, Part 3
Star Wars: Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett, Part 4
Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive
Boba Fett: Part I: Survival
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones novel
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones comic
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones junior novel
Star Wars: Battlefront II
Boba Fett: Crossfire
Boba Fett: Maze of Deception
Boba Fett: Hunted
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Death Trap"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "R2 Come Home"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Lethal Trackdown"
Republic Commando: Triple Zero (Appears in flashback(s))
Republic Commando: True Colors (Mentioned only)
Boba Fett: A New Threat
Boba Fett: Pursuit
The Last of the Jedi: The Desperate Mission
The Last of the Jedi: Dark Warning
Star Wars: Droids—"A Race to the Finish"
Star Tours: The Adventures Continue
A Hunter's Fate: Greedo's Tale webstrip
The Final Exit (Mentioned only)
The Hutt Gambit
"Outbid But Never Outgunned"—Star Wars Tales 7
Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire
Rebel Dawn
Star Wars: Lethal Alliance
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II novel
Star Wars: The Force Unleahed II comic
Star Wars: Empire: Betrayal
Underworld: The Yavin Vassilika
Star Wars: The National Public Radio Dramatization (Mentioned only)
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (Special Edition)
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope junior novel
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Rebel Force: Renegade (Mentioned only)
Star Wars: Rebellion
The Rebel Thief
Star Wars Missions 11: Bounty Hunters vs. Battle Droids
Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron
Star Wars: Empire 7: Sacrifice
Boba Fett ½: Salvage
"Number Two in the Galaxy"—Star Wars Tales 18
"Payback"—Star Wars Tales 18
"Being Boba Fett"—Star Wars Tales 18
The Story of the Faithful Wookiee (First appearance)
Galaxy of Fear: City of the Dead
Galaxy of Fear: Planet Plague (Mentioned only)
Galaxy of Fear: Ghost of the Jedi (Mentioned only)
Galaxy of Fear: Army of Terror (Mentioned only)
Star Wars: Empire 28: Wreckage
Boba Fett: Overkill
The Frozen World of Ota
Galaxy of Fear: The Brain Spiders
Galaxy of Fear: The Hunger
Lando Calrissian: Idiot's Array (Mentioned only)
The Bounty Hunter
Star Wars Journal: Hero for Hire
Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds
Star Wars: Empire at War
Star Wars: Empire at War: Forces of Corruption
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided
Star Wars Galaxies Trading Card Game – Galactic Hunters (Light Side and Dark Side scenario campaigns)
Fortune, Fate, and the Natural History of the Sarlacc
Domain of Evil (Appears in a dream)
A New Beginning
Showdown
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Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back novel
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back junior novel
The Prize Pelt: The Tale of Bossk (Mentioned only)
Star Wars 42: The Empire Strikes Back: To Be a Jedi
Star Wars 43: The Empire Strikes Back: Betrayal at Bespin
Thank the Maker
Star Wars 44: The Empire Strikes Back: Duel a Dark Lord
Star Wars: Demolition
"Permission Granted"—Shadows of the Empire Sourcebook (Mentioned only)
Shadows of the Empire novel (Mentioned only)
Shadows of the Empire comic
Shadows of the Empire game
Battle of the Bounty Hunters
The Bounty Hunters: Scoundrel's Wages (Mentioned only)
The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader (Appears in flashback(s))
A Boy and His Monster: The Rancor Keeper's Tale
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi junior novel
A Barve Like That: The Tale of Boba Fett
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi 1: In the Hands of Jabba the Hutt
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi 2: The Emperor Commands
Star Wars 81: Jawas of Doom
The Ordeal of Boba Fett
The Mandalorian Armor
Slave Ship
Hard Merchandise
Dark Forces: Rebel Agent
Dark Forces: Rebel Agent audio drama
"Three Against the Galaxy"—Star Wars Tales 3 (Appears in flashback(s))
"A Credit for Your Thoughts"—Star Wars Gamer 2 (Mentioned only)
Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction
"No Disintegrations, Please"—Star Wars Adventure Journal 14
X-wing: The Krytos Trap (Mentioned only)
X-wing: The Bacta War (Mentioned only)
Heir to the Empire (Mentioned only)
Dark Empire
Dark Empire audio drama
Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda
Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings
Boba Fett: Murder Most Foul
Dark Empire II
Dark Empire II audio drama
Boba Fett: Agent of Doom
Empire's End (Mentioned only)
Empire's End audio drama (Mentioned only)
The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett
Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
The Crystal Star (Appears in a dream)
The New Rebellion (Mentioned only)
Star Wars: Union (Appears in a dream)
Young Jedi Knights: Shards of Alderaan (Mentioned only)
Young Jedi Knights: Diversity Alliance (Mentioned only)
Young Jedi Knights: Delusions of Grandeur (Mentioned only)
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Bounty (Mentioned only)
Young Jedi Knights: The Emperor's Plague (Mentioned only)
Boba Fett: A Practical Man
"Revenants"—Star Wars Tales 18
The Unifying Force
Bloodlines
Tempest (Mentioned only)
Exile (Mentioned only)
Sacrifice
Inferno (Mentioned only)
Fury (Mentioned only)
Revelation
Invincible
Millennium Falcon (Mentioned only)
Omen (Mentioned only)
Abyss (Mentioned only)
Conviction
Ascension My point is just that if you want to compare Cad Bane vs. Boba Fett, Fett is definitely the more significant character in Star Wars. Back on topic, I would actually love to see a new Fett also, and think we're due for one. We haven't gotten one since Legacy. I agree that I'd like to see one in the 35-45 point range that does something a little different. Similar to Boba Enforcer, but better. I'd like to see his survivability come into play more; give him Beskar'gam and maybe Avoid Defeat.
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FlyingArrow wrote:Back from the Pit: If this character is defeated, place it on its character card. At the beginning of each round, make two saves of 11. If both saves are successful, this character returns to play within 4 squares of the center of the map with 10 hit points and is no longer considered defeated. Ooohh, me likey!  Nice Flying Arrow, looks cool.  Speaking of the Fett's, as in Father and Son together, that would be cool to see in the next V-Set. A new Jango and young Boba Fett. I'm all for that!!!  Let's make that happen V-Set team. Woo Hoo!! 
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SquelchDog wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:Back from the Pit: If this character is defeated, place it on its character card. At the beginning of each round, make two saves of 11. If both saves are successful, this character returns to play within 4 squares of the center of the map with 10 hit points and is no longer considered defeated. Ooohh, me likey! Nice Flying Arrow, looks cool. Speaking of the Fett's, as in Father and Son together, that would be cool to see in the next V-Set. A new Jango and young Boba Fett. I'm all for that!!! Let's make that happen V-Set team. Woo Hoo!! I concur, we need a Jango Fett, Mandalore in the mid to low 60s range with an affinity for seps and we need a highly competitive and very aggresively costed boba that's fringe
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billiv15 wrote:krazykay11 wrote:Personally, I'd like to not only see a Boba Fett that represents the essence of who he is, but also be competitive. The greater mobile double twin evade shooters replaced him in a way. In a way! I'm sorry...if you put Cad Bane and Boba Fett in a locked room...Boba Fett would be the one to walk out. I want to see the Boba Fett that does that!!! I'm not asking for a powerhouse...or for Boba to replace Cad Bane...just a Boba that competes in the meta. You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. As for a Boba that competes in the meta, we have 3 currently. So since you aren't thinking any of Boba BH, Boba Merc or Boba MC are competitive, than I can only think you must want only a tier 1 instant insert Boba. After all, that's all our game is missing these days in terms of representing (over representing really) a very minor character. Hey, if you have enough free slots in sets to make a niles ferrier who most fans probably couldn't have named and that few were asking for I think you can make a new boba or jango
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I really wouldn't criticize the set lists based on what fans want. We each have a different wants and areas of knowledge. It's been a while since I read the Thrawn Trilogy, but I know the basics of Niles due to my love of the game Rebellion. I still haven't played KOTOR all the way through. You don't see me ranting about how we are getting stuff based on Karen Traviss...
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Boba died in the Sarlacc. I heard it burp after swallowing him. There was no escape, any EU stories about him after that amazingly lame death are roughly the equal to fan fiction in my book :).
Comics and novels grossly exaggerate abilities. Movies and TV Shows are more important, with Video Games being third, Comics and Books being last. Boba's appearance in much of that material occurred because of fans, not because he was originally intended to be this amazing can beat anyone anywhere character. We actually see Cad Bane defeat jedi. Please point me to the sources on screen where I can see Boba defeat anyone. :)
As for Jango, last I remember, he had a better death than his son, but still, he gets smoked by Mace pretty quickly. So I hope if we ever do another Jango, any one complaining about Mace being overpowered sure as heck better not be complaining about how lame Jango is. Jango and Boba were nothing without their toys.
As for the suggestion that Niles shouldn't be on a list, well quite simply, you aren't the center of the universe. Nor do community wants dictate every design decision. We attempt to give lots of people some of the things that they want to see. As for priority, generally speaking we will continue to mix brand new characters, remakes of older bad figures, new versions of popular characters (including guys like Boba and Jango, but also Vader, Luke, Han, and all the other main Star Wars characters), and with lots of Non-unique figures from all eras. Further, we allow the design team to decide some figures they want to make, part of which come from our own wants, but also a great deal from general design ideas. What I mean by the latter, is something like this. Let's say we want something to help huges. So we think of an idea, like a CE granting Stable Footing. Then we might think of what character that fits on flavor wise. Some figures get made because we are making their friends. Others get made to specifically help bad WotC figures. Examples include Niles, General Weir, Mohc, Klattoonian Captain, etc. Just because you don't like Defels, doesn't mean there aren't other people out there who would like to play with theirs. I know that comment was likely very poorly thought out by you and probably intended differently than it came out, but seriously, you need to be a bit more considerate. Your opinion, or that of whatever number of players you say would never want a Niles, do not constitute the whole of the community, and never will.
As for new Jango and Boba, I'm sure we will do them at some point. Come on people, look at what we've done in two sets, and what we've said repeatedly about our design goals and plans. You should be able to figure out the pattern by now. Popular characters get made, but there are only so many slots in a set. And as for me, I don't want a new super Boba anytime soon. I'd rather do plenty of other things first. However, I am not the only designer :)
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billiv15 wrote:
As for the suggestion that Niles shouldn't be on a list, well quite simply, you aren't the center of the universe. Nor do community wants dictate every design decision. We attempt to give lots of people some of the things that they want to see. As for priority, generally speaking we will continue to mix brand new characters, remakes of older bad figures, new versions of popular characters (including guys like Boba and Jango, but also Vader, Luke, Han, and all the other main Star Wars characters), and with lots of Non-unique figures from all eras. Further, we allow the design team to decide some figures they want to make, part of which come from our own wants, but also a great deal from general design ideas. What I mean by the latter, is something like this. Let's say we want something to help huges. So we think of an idea, like a CE granting Stable Footing. Then we might think of what character that fits on flavor wise. Some figures get made because we are making their friends. Others get made to specifically help bad WotC figures. Examples include Niles, General Weir, Mohc, Klattoonian Captain, etc. Just because you don't like Defels, doesn't mean there aren't other people out there who would like to play with theirs. I know that comment was likely very poorly thought out by you and probably intended differently than it came out, but seriously, you need to be a bit more considerate. Your opinion, or that of whatever number of players you say would never want a Niles, do not constitute the whole of the community, and never will. I can get behind the bolded part of your message, I believe that since you all are the ones doing this work you should get to decide on what gets made, and everyone should understand that, you do the work, you get perks. I also think that you guys did a fantastic job of helping some pieces that definitely needed the help, heck i never once thought of using defels until niles came out, have i used them...no, but even the fact that i thought about it is good lol.
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i always have a bit of a chuckle when people start debating what is legit and what isnt.
Come on people its all make believe... does it really matter that George killed Boba, and someoneelse brought him back ?
I love ALL of the new pieces... period... they all add to the game.
Im sure a new boba would add something too
I will sit back and wait for whatever good stuff we get !
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It would be cool to see a Jango + Son single fig (presumably mounted on a large base). Kind of like Bba YM with Jango CS together on a single base.
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billiv15 wrote:You mean the guy who was defeated by a nearly blind man? Yeah, he was epic... :) As I recall, all Boba ever did was wait around for Han to come out of hiding in the asteroid field and followed them to Bespin. Then, instead of capturing Han himself, he had Vader do it and carried off a block of rock. Boba never did anything particularly important. Cad Bane on the other hand, actually defeated jedi many times in actual combat. Let's be fair here, and not argue about fan love for a character. billiv15 wrote:Boba died in the Sarlacc. I heard it burp after swallowing him. There was no escape, any EU stories about him after that amazingly lame death are roughly the equal to fan fiction in my book :).
Comics and novels grossly exaggerate abilities. Movies and TV Shows are more important, with Video Games being third, Comics and Books being last. Boba's appearance in much of that material occurred because of fans, not because he was originally intended to be this amazing can beat anyone anywhere character. We actually see Cad Bane defeat jedi. Please point me to the sources on screen where I can see Boba defeat anyone. :) I'm trying to understand your logic here and I'm having a hard time. What does onscreen vs offscreen have to do with anything? The MAJORITY of the Star Wars Universe is EU. Yes, the movies provide the basis for that universe, but the EU covers more ground. That ground is covered mostly by comics and novels. The comics and novels grossly exaggerate abilities? I think they are a better representation of abilities than The Clone Wars or video games. Video games especially. Abilities are magnified in video games in order to make them winnable. Did you play The Force Unleashed or any of the KotOR games? Need I say more? You obviously have not read many of the more recent comics/novels. And how can you say that any Boba stories after RotJ are like fan fiction? You realize that these are all approved by George Lucas. And the characters that come from those stories are the ones we use every day when we play this game we all love. Boba DID escape! Cad Bane was one of many characters (e.g. Cad Bane, Ashoka Tano, Captain Rex) who was created to introduce a new generation to Star Wars. The show is very enjoyable, but I have a hard time taking the show as seriously as you seem to. We see a lot of people asking for new versions of characters (Boba, Jango, Chewie (thats for me) etc.), but no one is asking for a new Cad, Ashoka, or Rex.
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billiv15 wrote:Boba died in the Sarlacc. I heard it burp after swallowing him. There was no escape, any EU stories about him after that amazingly lame death are roughly the equal to fan fiction in my book :).
Comics and novels grossly exaggerate abilities. Movies and TV Shows are more important, with Video Games being third, Comics and Books being last. Boba's appearance in much of that material occurred because of fans, not because he was originally intended to be this amazing can beat anyone anywhere character. We actually see Cad Bane defeat jedi. Please point me to the sources on screen where I can see Boba defeat anyone. :)
As for Jango, last I remember, he had a better death than his son, but still, he gets smoked by Mace pretty quickly. So I hope if we ever do another Jango, any one complaining about Mace being overpowered sure as heck better not be complaining about how lame Jango is. Jango and Boba were nothing without their toys.
As for the suggestion that Niles shouldn't be on a list, well quite simply, you aren't the center of the universe. Nor do community wants dictate every design decision. We attempt to give lots of people some of the things that they want to see. As for priority, generally speaking we will continue to mix brand new characters, remakes of older bad figures, new versions of popular characters (including guys like Boba and Jango, but also Vader, Luke, Han, and all the other main Star Wars characters), and with lots of Non-unique figures from all eras. Further, we allow the design team to decide some figures they want to make, part of which come from our own wants, but also a great deal from general design ideas. What I mean by the latter, is something like this. Let's say we want something to help huges. So we think of an idea, like a CE granting Stable Footing. Then we might think of what character that fits on flavor wise. Some figures get made because we are making their friends. Others get made to specifically help bad WotC figures. Examples include Niles, General Weir, Mohc, Klattoonian Captain, etc. Just because you don't like Defels, doesn't mean there aren't other people out there who would like to play with theirs. I know that comment was likely very poorly thought out by you and probably intended differently than it came out, but seriously, you need to be a bit more considerate. Your opinion, or that of whatever number of players you say would never want a Niles, do not constitute the whole of the community, and never will.
As for new Jango and Boba, I'm sure we will do them at some point. Come on people, look at what we've done in two sets, and what we've said repeatedly about our design goals and plans. You should be able to figure out the pattern by now. Popular characters get made, but there are only so many slots in a set. And as for me, I don't want a new super Boba anytime soon. I'd rather do plenty of other things first. However, I am not the only designer :) Sorry bill, I wasn't meaning that as an insult, I meant more that I think there are characters - even those done by wizos - that I don't always understand why they make them......we got a vader in more than half the sets but we only got 2 jango fetts and we hadn't gotten a boba since the force unleashed, even though he was in the clone wars.....I understand niles pupose was to help the defels but in all honesty he didn't help them much, he was a super stealth CE that only affected one character and costed only slightly less than Moff calixte......I think his ce could have been done a bit bettet to make it stand out more, like allies named Defel gain cloaked so that way they get the same effect but have the advantage of being immune to superstealth I didn't mean any harm, and if I came across wrong I apologize, with my ASD I often have trouble thinking about how something comes across to others and I also sometimes can't tell if someone else's post is positive or negative
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creme_brule wrote:It would be cool to see a Jango + Son single fig (presumably mounted on a large base). Kind of like Bba YM with Jango CS together on a single base. I agree it would be neat.....but it'd be Sooooooo complicated and gimmicky......with the exception of artoo and threepio all the duo pieces are because one of the characters is strapped to anothers back.....while it'd be cool, I'd much rather have 2 seperate pieces.....just works better
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