I would have to vote for Remote Mines, as it leaves the strategic game play in the hands of the attacker. A sadistic twist of the psyche if you will.

Reason #1: because I've had a number of conversations concerning "upon death" strategies and letting the other player determine who is adjacent to the "mined" target makes the ability less desirable to use IMHO. If you know your opponent can benefit, why give them that advantage?

Examples: using it to your advantage with Mon Mothma or Plo Koon JM commander effects.

Reason #2: Some characters need to have someone dead or themselves to be damage to work. Again, why let them decide how to work towards that advantage?

Examples: Impulsive anything, Long Shot, Scarification, etc


Now these reasons do work both ways, as in remote mines forces you to activate your piece to produce the damage, but it's still your choice and not your opponents. With proximity I just predict seeing more Advanced Battle Meditation strategies of timing when you will activate the piece to your own best advantage. Example: giving your opponent the opportunity to move Leia Skywalker JK within 6 of a mined General Wedge to give him another chance at making saves not just on mines but also on Avoid defeat saves.

I would prefer to have the control be in my hands with a remote mined Gen Wedge. I admit its for my own twisted reason as well, as I would let you run Leia JK half way across the map to try and get to Wedge, then activate my remote character and blow him up in your face. Yep, I'm that evil, ask the people I play with. Also I would prefer to activate my remote character, letting the mines go off at the start of my turn, and then see who is left standing or is the most damaged. This way, if I understand order of actions correctly, I can pick off the survivor(s) of the blast with my new attack or even remote mine them again and move away 6.


Kudos for the new ability and thanks for asking the peanut gallery!

My vote is to proximity mines for both the above reason that it prevents the enemy from using it against you but also because mines don't detonate until you move.....I honestly think that it'd be more useful if it triggered only when the target or a character adjecent to the target MOVES......it would solve the current debate and it would also give your opponents the choice of

A: don't move to avoid the damage but leave yourself exposed

Or

B. Get the h**l outta there but take the damage

20 Damage is enough. For me it's more to do with who gets it than the ability itself. Unique characters all for getting things like this, cheap non-unique not so much as I think there is already far to much automatic damage in the game now.

It was considered, but I think that adds some extra complexity that isn't really necessary for this ability (not that targeting squares instead of characters is something we'll never do), and it also isn't particularly in flavor for the specific character that this ability was originally created for.

Yes, if they make the save, they will no longer be mined. As written, it only works once anyway (the turn immediately after the character is mined), but it will also include the clause "...and the character is no longer mined", or something like that. This hasn't been sent to QC yet, so the final wording is subject to change.

Not a bad idea. Maybe a future "Landmine" Special Ability.

But on the debate in hand, I think Remote Mines are better. Although I don't like the idea of being based by the mined character, I think opponents won't willingly send mined characters out into the open unless they are fairly weak anyway. If you lay a mine on Darth Bane from your little corner, he won't get charged in to base you, because that will leave him wide open to attacks from all sides. Similarly, he will probably killer the miner in one go anyway, which is a waste.

The miners will probably have time to destroy the mined if they rush out unless they get completely outactivated, which means they are silly for not activating sooner, before the mined rushed them.

Proximity Mines are also cool, but I think Remote ones would be more fun to mess around with if we can only have one.

If the end up on some sort of Republic Commando though, they could be so nasty, it'd be so much fun!

One of the best video games ever!

proximity mines were always my favorite in goldeneye!!

my vote is proximity mines for the record