Most of that should also be covered in the Resolving Effects section of the FAQ.

The discussion and ruling on Qui-Ghost vs Disruptive got me thinking, and I noticed there are no FAQ entries under Disruptive (might be some scattered elsewhere).

In Qui-Ghost's case, it was ruled that both the defeated follower and the beneficiary must be subject to CEs at the time. Presumably on the notion that the defeated ally is being affected by the CE... I may be mistaken as to the reasoning, just using it as a starting point to look at some other CEs.

It is usually pretty straightforward, but there may be some gray areas where some CE triggers/conditions are concerned so I'm just throwing stuff out here in case it bears looking at:

GOWK: If a lone required ally within 6 of a beneficiary is disrupted, does that kill the CE for the other character?

No.

Jakan: If the defeated Vong ally is disrupted, does the CE go off?

Yes.

Shimrra: Not really a question with regards to Shimrra or attacker in disruptive, but could create a situation where disrupted allies would not get the +1 attack bonus, making tracking who has it more difficult.

Vader DJ: see Shimrra

Combined Fire CEs: If the attacker is within Disruptive, but combiner(s) aren't. Does attacker still get the bonus?

A CE that affects the combine fire mechanic (ie +6 instead of +4) would not be disrupted but if the CE grants an effect to the attacker it would not take effect.

Joruus C'Boath: At a glance it appears this probably works like with Han STA's CE, however, this CE grants a full normal turn, and the defeat part of the CE is in a separate sentence. Could the follower take the turn, ending in disruptive to avoid being defeated?

No.

Disra: His CE prevents Imp commanders (and himself) from being disrupted, but does it kick in for others if they are already disrupted at the start of a phase?

Yes.

Mando Training Sarge: The beneficiary and SA are selected at start of skirmish, after which proximity to MTS is a condition for it to kick in. Is it still subject to disruptive later in the game?

Yes.

ST Commander, HoloVeers, Cassus: same deal, are the effects non-disruptable for their duration once granted successfully?

The beneficiary retains the effect for the specified duration, but cannot use it if the commander or itself are in range of disruptive when it would be used.

Also, Darth O brought up tempo control CEs recently in the rules forum here. Might be worth an include.

These CEs affect the player. The only way to shut them off is by disrupting the commander. (also via Distraction/ABM etc.)


Apologies if any of those situations are simple or are covered somewhere. Just thought some sort of mini-guide that goes a little deeper than the ability defintion could be useful.

My point in including it here was mainly to draw distinction between it and other situations that may seem similar but work differently (if any).

I have an opinion about each item I posted, but I was 100% wrong about Qui-Ghost, so...

Betrayal on a Strafe

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/19464634/Betrayal_on_a_Strafe&post_num=1#331140730

If a character with Savage starts the move within 6 squares of a character with Empathy, but moves more than 6 squares away, do they continue their move as if they do not have Savage, or do they have to base an enemy if they can? In other words, do you check for Savage at the beginning of a move or at every step along the way?

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Edit: Never mind. Answer is in glossary entry for Empathy.

+1, I think this should probably be added to the glossary definition

^ agreed, that would be helpful, similar to the Force Powers vs Force Immunity thread over on Gamers.

A nice simple reference list.

Relocated from General and pinned.

** The FAQ should clarify the interactions with CE suppression, Disruptive, and Con Artist.

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** Complete definition of "in the squad". Defeated characters, replaced characters, etc.

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** Just like there is a step-by-step for attack resolution, we need something similar for everything pre-game and pre-initiative. In particular, when are all of the following resolved:

Versatility
Pellaeon
Reinforcements
Bribery (1. initial selection 2. decision to steal 3. application of benefits to the characters)
Exact timing on when Affinity changes a character's squad to allow a character to enter a squad
Exact timing on when benefits of Bribery are applied
Applying Rapport
MTB vs MTB


I think a good step-by-step could answer all of these questions without having to answer each one individually. The step-by-step would just explain how things work so that they all make sense:

* If Jaina brings a Rebel Han with Versatility in to the NR, can Versatility be used to bring in another Rebel Han? (I know you can't, but a step-by-step should be able to clarify why that is the case.)

* If you use Reinforcements to bring in another character that also has Reinforcements, do you get to bring in the second set of Reinforcements?

* If you have two separate sets of Reinforcements or Bribery coming in at the same time, can Rapport in one set reduce the cost of characters in the other set?

* If two MTB face off and they both want to kill characters that are adjacent to each other, how is that resolved?

* If two characters with Sense the Future face off, how is that resolved? Does one have to decide first and if so, who?

* If both players have multiple abilities that trigger before the first activation, how is the order resolved? (We always play it this way and I think it's right: Winner of init decides the player who gets the first activation. Player with the first activation resolves all pre-activation abilities first, then the other player's pre-activation abilities.)

* If character with Rapport or Affinity is removed from a squad and replaced via Pellaeon or Versatility, how does that affect things (if at all)?

* Are the terms initiative roll and initiative check synonymous?

* Can I take a character's reinforcements but then replace that character via Versatility or Pellaeon's ability (or something similar)?

I would assume the card text matches the intent. If not, errata is needed.
Otherwise the glossary should be brought in line with the card.

This one is a bit different as the inital effect is not auto-damage. So if you make the 1st save, it's like evading the dart. If the dart hits you take damage from it, then more from the poison later.