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countrydude82487
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 1:05:56 PM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
I had a problem play testing him some things, I forget exactly what changed but that heal 60, coupled with another bad guy in the set and his heal combined with krayts just made him impossible to kill, but I would like to use him. And I have the COOLEST mini for him that I made ThumpUp

well i know that if you put him with evazan he can be quite powerful
kezzamachine
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 1:58:53 PM
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Recommend Mini? (*hehe*)

Anyhoo, I lament at how GMLS is being surpassed... I love my GMLS...
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Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:06:51 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Anyhoo, I lament at how GMLS is being surpassed... I love my GMLS...


I thought that there was a rumour that he's going to be good again....
fett19
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:31:51 PM
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where can i see this guys stats?
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:51:34 PM
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fett19 wrote:
where can i see this guys stats?


his stats are in the V-set 4 Spoiler thread.

or right here:

06. Lord Krayt
Cost 114
HP 130
DEF 23
ATK +17
DAM 20

Special Abilities
Unique. Melee Attack; Triple Attack
Advantageous Attack [+10 Damage against an enemy who has not activated this round]
Affinity [Non-Unique Imperials may be in your squad regardless of faction]
Vonduun Crab Armor 6 [When this character takes damage, he can reduce the damage dealt by 10 with a save of 6]

Force Powers
Force 2. Force Renewal 1; Master of the Force 2
Essence of Life [Force 2: When a living ally within 6 squares would be defeated, that ally makes a save of 11. On a success, that ally has 10 Hit Points instead of being defeated.]
Recovery 60 [Force 3, replaces turn: Remove 60 damage from this character]
Sith Rage [Force 1: +10 Damage on all attacks this turn]
Transfer Essence [Force 1, usable only on this character's turn: Choose 1 living ally. Remove that ally from play and place Lord Krayt in that ally's space; that ally is defeated.]

Commander Effect
You can choose to activate only 1 character in each phase. (This includes Droid and Savage characters.)

"I have been through death and conquered it."

TheHutts wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
Anyhoo, I lament at how GMLS is being surpassed... I love my GMLS...


I thought that there was a rumour that he's going to be good again....


And I can't wait to see what that is.


I like Krayt, he seems like a nice fun piece with some great mobility, resilience, and a perfect CE.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 3:43:07 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Better than GMLS, but at that cost level, is he better than both Maul, Sith Infiltrator and Darth Zannah combined? They're cheaper than him. He might beat some good squads, but I don't see him being a Tier 1 piece.


Not sure if Krayt is better than GMLS stat wise. In a one on one match, GMLS would win every time. But it's all the other things that Krayt has that makes him much more competitive.
yodaccm
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 5:32:35 PM
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The real question is can Krayt and GMLS together defeat an Abeloth mini? Epic figure anyone?
kezzamachine
Posted: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 5:53:49 PM
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I'm 250 pages through the last book in the Fate of the Jedi... I'll let you know after the weekend!
fett19
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:52:42 AM
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so can he use transfer essence on a someone then use essence of life on them?
countrydude82487
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:12:33 AM
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fett19 wrote:
so can he use transfer essence on a someone then use essence of life on them?

no because the death resolves before he moves to that square. now if he wanted too while adjacent in the first place, Not sure why you would, but you could do it what way, probubly just a waste of 3 force points though.
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yodaccm wrote:
The real question is can Krayt and GMLS together defeat an Abeloth mini? Epic figure anyone?


Yes! Still hoping for an Abeloth miniature this set, she is crazy intense.

As to Krayt, I like everything about him except for his affinity. That was definitely worded wrong, maybe non-unique imperial characters without a force rating. But as it stands imperial knights, reborn, marko ragnos cultists, nightsisters... Yah should not be on Krayt's team. Other then that cool new balanced piece and looking forward to see how he fares against the other big dogs
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Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 7:57:54 AM
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General_Grievous wrote:
yodaccm wrote:
The real question is can Krayt and GMLS together defeat an Abeloth mini? Epic figure anyone?


Yes! Still hoping for an Abeloth miniature this set, she is crazy intense.


I don't think a regular epic would even be appropriate. A 200-point piece like the AT-AT maybe. Maybe more.
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Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2012 8:59:14 AM
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Mando wrote:
Not sure if Krayt is better than GMLS stat wise. In a one on one match, GMLS would win every time. But it's all the other things that Krayt has that makes him much more competitive.


It seems pretty clear that mano a mano GMLS cleans the floor with Krayt's face. Trip/Twin, Lightsaber Defense, Force Defense and Djem So Style Mastery cinch that one up. Nevermind that Krayt is paying for TE and a great CE that are completely nerfed by a 1-on-1 scenario. However, Krayt has a broader bag of tricks and therefore more squad building options in a 200 point scenario.
General_Grievous
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FlyingArrow wrote:
General_Grievous wrote:
yodaccm wrote:
The real question is can Krayt and GMLS together defeat an Abeloth mini? Epic figure anyone?


Yes! Still hoping for an Abeloth miniature this set, she is crazy intense.


I don't think a regular epic would even be appropriate. A 200-point piece like the AT-AT maybe. Maybe more.


I could see that, a one time piece with a couple activations. She is pretty crazy and definitely the most powerful of all the characters. Still curious to see what direction they take with her design
countrydude82487
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2012 3:44:33 AM
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saber1 wrote:
Mando wrote:
Not sure if Krayt is better than GMLS stat wise. In a one on one match, GMLS would win every time. But it's all the other things that Krayt has that makes him much more competitive.


It seems pretty clear that mano a mano GMLS cleans the floor with Krayt's face. Trip/Twin, Lightsaber Defense, Force Defense and Djem So Style Mastery cinch that one up. Nevermind that Krayt is paying for TE and a great CE that are completely nerfed by a 1-on-1 scenario. However, Krayt has a broader bag of tricks and therefore more squad building options in a 200 point scenario.

the one big advantage Krayt has, other than VC6 is Recover 60. That can help him keep going alot longer. Granted against GMLS he would have to win init every time to be bale to even make a dent.
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Posted: Friday, June 8, 2012 6:49:36 AM
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countrydude82487 wrote:
saber1 wrote:
[quote=Mando]Not sure if Krayt is better than GMLS stat wise. In a one on one match, GMLS would win every time. But it's all the other things that Krayt has that makes him much more competitive.


It seems pretty clear that mano a mano GMLS cleans the floor with Krayt's face. Trip/Twin, Lightsaber Defense, Force Defense and Djem So Style Mastery cinch that one up. Nevermind that Krayt is paying for TE and a great CE that are completely nerfed by a 1-on-1 scenario. However, Krayt has a broader bag of tricks and therefore more squad building options in a 200 point scenario.


the one big advantage Krayt has, other than VC6 is Recover 60. That can help him keep going alot longer. Granted against GMLS he would have to win init every time to be bale to even make a dent.


In the 1-on-1, I don't see how R60 helps Krayt. It's a replaces turn ability so he would remain adjacent to GMLS who, on his next turn, would drop 60 damage on Krayt after all 6 successful VCA6 saves. All that does is spend force points to delay the inevitable, unless I have forgotten something.
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Posted: Friday, June 8, 2012 7:03:56 AM
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Btw, I think GMLS and LK are each about 10 points too expensive.
countrydude82487
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2012 1:06:11 PM
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saber1 wrote:
countrydude82487 wrote:
saber1 wrote:
[quote=Mando]Not sure if Krayt is better than GMLS stat wise. In a one on one match, GMLS would win every time. But it's all the other things that Krayt has that makes him much more competitive.


It seems pretty clear that mano a mano GMLS cleans the floor with Krayt's face. Trip/Twin, Lightsaber Defense, Force Defense and Djem So Style Mastery cinch that one up. Nevermind that Krayt is paying for TE and a great CE that are completely nerfed by a 1-on-1 scenario. However, Krayt has a broader bag of tricks and therefore more squad building options in a 200 point scenario.


the one big advantage Krayt has, other than VC6 is Recover 60. That can help him keep going alot longer. Granted against GMLS he would have to win init every time to be bale to even make a dent.


In the 1-on-1, I don't see how R60 helps Krayt. It's a replaces turn ability so he would remain adjacent to GMLS who, on his next turn, would drop 60 damage on Krayt after all 6 successful VCA6 saves. All that does is spend force points to delay the inevitable, unless I have forgotten something.

forgot that it replaces attacks, but i also forgot that krayt has rage, so he can potentially do more damage
General_Grievous
Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:45:59 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
I'm 250 pages through the last book in the Fate of the Jedi... I'll let you know after the weekend!


Just finished it, and now I have my answer...
Kanis_Majoris
Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:55:45 AM
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Any chance we can see krayt's card??
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