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Azrikel
Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:29:43 PM
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This is truly amazing work all around. The customs and paint are inspiring. I'm curious as to what your ground (table cloth) is made from? I've been working on a custom Mos Eisley inspired board using Hirst molds for a couple of years now. As you noted, it is a long process and is very heavy. I've constructed mine with modular ground pieces but have considered switching to sort of measured based system like you have done so I'd love to hear how you did it. Again great work, this project is definitely one of my all time favorites.
qvos
Posted: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:01:00 PM
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Unbelievable work! Awesome!
Biggsy
Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:13:05 AM
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kobayashimaru wrote:
Whoa! Nice work biggsy!
That table is awesome!! How long did it take to make?
The customs have top notch paintwork and very nice joins;
you'll have to share some recipes (jedi and droids) BigGrin

Thanks koby. The game board has taken me more than a year and a half, but i'm not quite sure exactly when i actually started on it.

Regarding the recipes, just let me know which ones you want to know about, and i'll see if i can remember how i made them Confused

MaliciousCrumb wrote:
Ha ha! I see how you did that LIN series demolition droid.BigGrin
I don't know anything about customs either, but you did a great job.

Yeah LEGO's a great source for bits and stuff for customs and terrain. Just check out some of the satellite dishes in my Mos Eisley pictures.

Azrikel wrote:
This is truly amazing work all around. The customs and paint are inspiring. I'm curious as to what your ground (table cloth) is made from? I've been working on a custom Mos Eisley inspired board using Hirst molds for a couple of years now. As you noted, it is a long process and is very heavy. I've constructed mine with modular ground pieces but have considered switching to sort of measured based system like you have done so I'd love to hear how you did it. Again great work, this project is definitely one of my all time favorites.

Yeah i'm pretty sure i've seen some pictures (work in progress i think?) of yours. Impressive work, and a great source of inspiration for me when i was building, along with other similar projects i found pictures from when scouring the internet for Tatooine terrain.
My first take on Mos Eisley was going to be much like your own, but as i mentioned earlier, i pretty much gave up when i realized how many 1" blocks of Hirst Arts i had to cast Scared

The ground is a Verdant Fields gaming mat from ZUZZY.com, painted in desert colors. It's 4'x6' and made from rubber latex, making it easy to roll up and store when not in use. It's pretty expensive, but well worth the price i think. A total pain in the a** to paint though!

qvos wrote:
Unbelievable work! Awesome!

Thank you very much! I'm glad you like it.

...

On another note, i just added some custom stat card artwork to the first page, just below Mos Eisley. I suck at making stats, but at least i can make the cards look pretty. They are heavily inspired by some made from an old WotC member, i think his name was Vornargith? surf_rider56 you will probably remember him.
surf_rider56
Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:09:46 PM
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Biggsy wrote:

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On another note, i just added some custom stat card artwork to the first page, just below Mos Eisley. I suck at making stats, but at least i can make the cards look pretty. They are heavily inspired by some made from an old WotC member, i think his name was Vornargith? surf_rider56 you will probably remember him.


Yes, I haven't seen this version of the cards in a few years; You've done a nice job on them. What font dide you use? Seems you've squeezed in quite a bit of text. I usually use FB Agency in various sizes for the text. Th original cards had a witches brew of fonts but I stick to the one just to simplify.

For the record, they used

Frontside:
- AgencyFB-Italic
- AgencyFB-Regular
- Aquarius-Bold
- Aquarius-Extrabold
- Helvetica-Condensed-Bold
- ZapfDingbats

Backside:
- Aquarius-Extrabold
- Helvetica-Condensed-Bold



Your cards are quite colorful but I always liked the full bodied pics so I never much used this particular style. I think it was vornargith-glee that did them. If you sift through the rubble of the old WOTC site you'll see quite a few of the old timers that have drifted into here. I personally have to thank Laubi1 for recreating the "new" style cards which are the ones I use today. There are quite a few different card takes to be found on the old site and Mapmaker Chris has even dabbled in it recently.

Cheer, and welcome to the small card making club!
Biggsy
Posted: Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:01:21 AM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
Yes, I haven't seen this version of the cards in a few years; You've done a nice job on them. What font dide you use? Seems you've squeezed in quite a bit of text. I usually use FB Agency in various sizes for the text. Th original cards had a witches brew of fonts but I stick to the one just to simplify.

For the record, they used

Frontside:
- AgencyFB-Italic
- AgencyFB-Regular
- Aquarius-Bold
- Aquarius-Extrabold
- Helvetica-Condensed-Bold
- ZapfDingbats

Backside:
- Aquarius-Extrabold
- Helvetica-Condensed-Bold



Your cards are quite colorful but I always liked the full bodied pics so I never much used this particular style. I think it was vornargith-glee that did them. If you sift through the rubble of the old WOTC site you'll see quite a few of the old timers that have drifted into here. I personally have to thank Laubi1 for recreating the "new" style cards which are the ones I use today. There are quite a few different card takes to be found on the old site and Mapmaker Chris has even dabbled in it recently.

Cheer, and welcome to the small card making club!


Oops i must have missed this post, sorry about that.

I would have preferred a full body image on all cards, but it's much easier to find suitable pictures if you can crop parts of them out. And again, it's just for kicks BigGrin
I have the new style templates stored, along with the original design and a few alternative styles, but i wanted to make my own from scratch. But still with a lot of inspiration from vornargith-glee.

The text fonts i used were StarJedi for the name and all the stat and cost numbers, and Arial for everything else. Tried to keep it simple and in an easy-to-read style.



..On another note, i finally managed to get a few minis completed after having taken a break of almost a full year. I just added these to the first page:
Old Republic Tech Specialist (OR)
Kal Skirata (Mandos)
Rohlan Dyre (Mandos)
surf_rider56
Posted: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:16:43 AM
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Biggsy wrote:

Oops i must have missed this post, sorry about that.

I would have preferred a full body image on all cards, but it's much easier to find suitable pictures if you can crop parts of them out. And again, it's just for kicks BigGrin
I have the new style templates stored, along with the original design and a few alternative styles, but i wanted to make my own from scratch. But still with a lot of inspiration from vornargith-glee.

The text fonts i used were StarJedi for the name and all the stat and cost numbers, and Arial for everything else. Tried to keep it simple and in an easy-to-read style.



..On another note, i finally managed to get a few minis completed after having taken a break of almost a full year. I just added these to the first page:
Old Republic Tech Specialist (OR)
Kal Skirata (Mandos)
Rohlan Dyre (Mandos)


Yes, using the full body is more challenging, which is why I do it; if it was easy evrybody would do it BlooMilk

Don't think I've heard of the StarJedi font; may check it out for fun.

If I'm not mistaken, the OR Tech is an old AT-43 piece; I've used quite a few of them myself. The mado's as usual are again quite good.
Biggsy
Posted: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:21:10 AM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
Yes, using the full body is more challenging, which is why I do it; if it was easy evrybody would do it BlooMilk

Don't think I've heard of the StarJedi font; may check it out for fun.

If I'm not mistaken, the OR Tech is an old AT-43 piece; I've used quite a few of them myself. The mado's as usual are again quite good.


StarJedi is just a Star Wars logo style font, there are probably many of those around.

And yes, you're spot on with the OR Tech Spec. It was definitely from AT-43, although i don't remember what the fig is called.
Darthbane53
Posted: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:29:24 AM
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Those stat cards are wicked cool. Just curious as to why they all have speed on them?
Biggsy
Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:14:13 AM
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Thank you. When i started on them, it was my intention to make modified versions of some main characters and grunts for 3D scenario play. Speed was going to be different from one character to the next to make them more diverse.
But making stats is not as easy as i thought, and i abandoned the project for now. I just left the 'speed' box on there.
Jedicartographer
Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:58:24 AM
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You are by far the best customizer in the game today, and probably a contender for best customizer ever. I love your card template, I love it more than my templates for sure.

I have started gathering my own stuff for a Mos Eisley model recently. and good tips?

You may be my hero, I'm not sure. I have a man-crush on your skills. I even love the pictures you took of the customs.
corranhorn
Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:53:14 PM
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Holy Sarlacc! These are incredibly awesome! Wub Woot ThumbsUp Plus, you put Corran, Revan, and Atton in your first batch of cards, who are my 3 favorite characters, so nice one there! Flapper
Biggsy
Posted: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:23:15 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Holy Sarlacc! These are incredibly awesome! Wub Woot ThumbsUp Plus, you put Corran, Revan, and Atton in your first batch of cards, who are my 3 favorite characters, so nice one there! Flapper

Thanks man. Those are some of my favorites as well Smile

Jedicartographer wrote:
You are by far the best customizer in the game today, and probably a contender for best customizer ever. I love your card template, I love it more than my templates for sure.

I have started gathering my own stuff for a Mos Eisley model recently. and good tips?

You may be my hero, I'm not sure. I have a man-crush on your skills. I even love the pictures you took of the customs.

Wow, thank you Matt. I'm a huge fan of your work as well. Your maps are absolutely awesome, and i think i have every single map you (and Josh) have printed.

I don't consider myself the best, as i can easily name several whose skills i envy. Be that sculpting, paint jobs or overall quality. I just do my best, and learn as i go. But i'm very flattered, and glad that you like my work ThumpUp

As for Mos Eisley, here's a quick look at the process. First of all i had been hoarding a lot of junk: Polystyrene, small bits, old toys, food containers and such for building materials. You can never have enough of that.
The buildings are mostly made from polystyrene and various containers, and covered with a layer of multi-purpose filler to give them a rough texture. Then i sanded them down a little and painted them dark brown, followed by 2 or 3 drybrushed layers of increasingly lighter shades of brown.
Details are everything from toy parts (LEGO and G.I. JOE just to name a few), odd bits, and Hirst Arts castings (most notably the doors) painted grey and applied with brown wash. Some were added as they were, some put together to make antennas and large machinery.
It was a huge job, and i wish you the best of luck with yours. If you need more specific help or tips, just ask.
Biggsy
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:03:48 AM
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New additions:

The Revanchist (OR)
Lord Kaan (Sith)
Lieutenant Page (Rebs) - a repaint of an old custom
Rebel Commando Munitions Expert (Rebs) - same as above, and added a backpack
Storm Commando on Speeder Bike (Imps)
Tycho Celchu (NR)
surf_rider56
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:26:56 AM
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I like the Revanchist; what figure did you use as the base?

On side note, I was working on some new card ideas and I remembered your new card template. You and Chris came up with rather colorful cards and I look at my "new" designs and while they hold more text, I wouldn't call them beautiful, just functional.

What kind of feedback did you get on your cards from friends and Bloo people? D you consider them practical or just "pretty and collectible?"
Biggsy
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:44:41 AM
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There hasn't been much feedback on the cards actually. But i think they fall into the 'pretty and collectible' category rather than being practical. I had some trouble fitting all the text onto a few of the cards, although i could maybe have skipped the full text on some of the abilities. But if i had to make some for serious gaming use, i'd probably scrap some of the fancy stuff and make room for more text. Also, looking at them again, i'm wondering if the very colorful design looks too 'messy' compared to the original stat cards which were more simple.

With 'new' designs, are you saying that you're working on your own templates?

As for the Revanchist, the main body is from a Jedi Instructor. Arms are from a Kit Fisto mini, and the legs are from a RotS Jedi Knight. I'm glad you like it, as it's been one of the more time consuming of the bunch. It turned out pretty well i think, despite some green stuff sculpting (which i'm not that good at yet).
Darthbane53
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:57:20 PM
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I dont think that they are too cluttered, and I really do like them alot.
surf_rider56
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:58:52 PM
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Biggsy wrote:
There hasn't been much feedback on the cards actually. But i think they fall into the 'pretty and collectible' category rather than being practical. I had some trouble fitting all the text onto a few of the cards, although i could maybe have skipped the full text on some of the abilities. But if i had to make some for serious gaming use, i'd probably scrap some of the fancy stuff and make room for more text. Also, looking at them again, i'm wondering if the very colorful design looks too 'messy' compared to the original stat cards which were more simple.

With 'new' designs, are you saying that you're working on your own templates?



Pretty is exactly that; Very Pretty but like you, I'm not sure they're practical. I'm wondering if WOTC had arguments on pretty vs. practical. I like Chris and your cards, they're beautiful pieces of artwork, but while I haven't playtested them as such, they look like they may be hard to read when you're trying to make a game decision.

So, while I ponder new cards (not much on feedback; midterms must be coming up) I've been toying with several ideas on new designs for fun and I've gone the austeur route myself.

Darthbane53 wrote:
I dont think that they are too cluttered, and I really do like them alot.


Cluttered may be more of "In the Eye of the Beholder." You may say there're not cluttered, yet the creater of the cards think they are ....

Just for the heck of it, I made a comparison of Biggsy's Mara, Smuggler card with a newer look WOTC template of a Mara card I made two years ago ....

Mara, Compared



Parts of Buggy's cards are actually huge (Base stats, Pic) yet other parts are much smaller (SA and FP descriptions.)
Which is better? Heck if I know BigGrin ... but its fun to compare and I guess it depends on form vs function.

Peace

PS .... Green stuff (I suspected) but would never have guessed the other parts of your Revanchist; darn good piece BlooMilk

PPS - I thought about throwing out my new cards in comparison, but this is Biggsy's thread .... I'll do that some time on my thread another day Cool
DARPH NADER
Posted: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:29:55 AM
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Biggsy, the only word that comes to mind is "gobsmacked!"

Your work is the stuff of legend, thank you for sharing. BlooMilk BlooMilk BlooMilk
Jedicartographer
Posted: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:19:34 AM
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The cards aren't cluttered at all, they are by far the best cards I've seen, custom or official. In fact, I went back to the drawing board on my own cards because I loved yours so much. I actually printed up your cards and added them to my deck.

There really isn't a "fashion over function" when it comes cards, as long as you can read them. They have ZERO bearing on gameplay or mechanics. Practicality is irrelevant in my opinion. The only concern I would have, is text size. When you are just using a regular ink jet printer the smaller the font, the blurry things get. But as far as I can see the text is a good size on the cards.

People tend to take things too seriously when it comes to customs. The custom maps crowd was like that a few years ago during the height of the game. Make something that you love, and makes you want to get out the game and play. As someeon who prints up this kind of stuff and sells it to the public, I can say with confidence that I would have you design cards for my own custom set and I would sell them.

I sincerely hope you continue to make the cards, because I will scoop them up.





Lord_Ball
Posted: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:41:22 AM
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The card looks good, however the Force Powers either needs a lighter background with the black text or keep the backgrounds a dark shade of the faction color with white text.

another possible change (but far less important/necessary) would be tighten the basic stats up just a bit (to increase the room for the SAs/FPs/CE) - Move the text to the left half a letter and reduce the length to center "HIT POINTS". That should create a decent increase in space for SAs without really sacrificing anything.
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