I dont have to much of a problem with the repeat characters because they are all different. What I would have a problem with is a reprint set, which is pretty much what AE was to RS. And I think even though there are 8 something chewbaccas, we only just got our first V-set one, which is really an AT-ST, not chewie, and we are still lacking a NR chewie. Thats a major need.

I do think the Fringe Mara in Scum & Villiany and the Master Mara in Jedi vs Sith was an unfortunate mistake, keep in mind, the Epics where developped seperately. Also, the Bounty Hunter Challenge pieces may provide difficulty going forward, as they are developped in during one set, and will be printed with another. I can't gaurentee that we won't accidently repeat the figures that are chosen in those cases.

I doubt that it will happen again like it did with Mara, but I can't gaurentee it with either the Epics or the BHC figures.

While the Mara situation shouldn't have happened, I just can't see restricting the main sets because of the side projects of Epics and BHC. Keep in mind, the list of figures who should qualify for an Epic or for the BHC are far more limited to who will be chosen. And even then, it happened twice with the Epics. And I will say, V5 and V6 do look to fufill a LOT of the most wanted requests. Not all of them, but a good chunk imo.



Sounds fine. Topic moved.

And it doesn't seem heated to me, imo. It's actually pretty good compared to a lot of other threads.

Alliance and Empire gave us:
Han Solo in Stormtrooper Armor
Han Solo on Tauntaun
Han Solo, Rogue

The closest we have are the "money" guys. I'm forgetting the third one, but Engineer and Urbanjedi (also the shipping guys) control when things are printed. Urbanjedi is also having input on characters and Recomended Character selection for V6, because of the sealed tournament, which will be returning next Gencon.

Other than that, it is up to the design team of the set. But I do assure you, that the "What do you want to see" lists are taken into consideration. I can assure you, that while not all the top are making it into V5 and 6, that the designers are knocking out a good chunk of requests.

see i personally Dont think that the epic Sets count For doubling up on sets. Honestly They are their own significant part of the game and should be included separate from the standard, much the Way the AT-AT does. Now i can see the complaint for a Mini set and a normal set. It doesnt bother me honestly, but i can see the argument there. However you cannot really get mad at the design team for such insights. many times people are working on different sets and it is all they can do to not overlap abilities and styles all the time.

The printer prints them in sheets of 18, so it's much more cost effective to make stats in multiples of 18. That's why we do 72 cards per set.

Having the Epic be the mini set doesn't work with this, since they are printed totally separately (since the cards are a different shape).



As for the OP, you can't please everyone. I for one disagree with each and every point you made.

-I want to see more of the main characters and would really hate to see a set without any of them. The characters are what make Star Wars great to me, and those main characters are mostly my favorites. As others have said, I would be very happy with a new Vader or Luke in every single set, because I love those characters and get excited every time a new one is made.

-If a character was left behind a long time ago by power creep, I'd generally rather see it replaced then see a weird character that boosts that character specifically, especially when it's a main character which I already mentioned I want to keep seeing new versions of. I also recognize that if you make a general boost (like a Count Dooku who gives Living Seps GMA) it will just be used by better pieces and the old crappy piece remains old and crappy. Take Whorm Loathsome for example: He helps old Sep characters a lot! You can play him with Darth Maul, CotS and get 8 attacks! Or Grievous JH for 8 attacks! Awesome! But wait, there are newer, better characters that benefit from him more, because they are just better pieces. It also seriously restricts future design, because we have to keep that CE in mind. Now because of Whorm Loathsome, we have to think about giving any Fringe or Sep piece twin. We have to either give them Twin on the card so they don't benefit from Whorm, give them Single Shot Blaster (this problem is literally the reason that ability was created), or design the character in such a way that giving them Twin Attack doesn't overpower them. Any kind of general boost will create these problems: they help the better characters more than they help the weaker characters.

As for specific boosts (things like Camaraderie), those work fine to a certain extent, but it's really kind of an inelegant solution. If we make a Dooku that boosts JUST Grievous Jedi Hunter, then now you have to play those two pieces together. Separately you're either over paying for Dooku because you aren't using everything on his card or you're playing crappy un-boosted Grievous JH. It's just poor design in general, and I'd much rather just see the piece replace (since I love seeing new versions of the piece; see point #1). A Grievous of Hypori (strong Jedi-killing fighter) was very high on the community want list. We chose to go along with that instead of ignoring the community and making some Grievous JH boosting character and making people play that one.

-Do you realize that Rival is used on characters other than the Imperial Triumvirate? It was originally created for Tyber Zann with Rival for Black Sun. The Triumvirate was an experiment, and most people agree that it failed. That's understood. There are exactly 3 characters in the entire game that match your description, and everyone knows that nobody likes them. You're beating a dead horse now.

pretty much agree 100% on all of this. I love Star Wars, I want to see new versions of my favorite characters. You could make 25 MORE Luke Skywalkers and I would probably be interested in all of them. Just Looking over my personal customs I have 6 versions of Luke Skywalker I'm working on, all vastly different. Maybe I'm an anomaly, but I love the main characters of Star Wars! Darth Vader, Agent of Evil is a great example of a new and really interesting version of a piece we have seen a bunch of times. I'm all for new and different takes on characters or versions that place them through different points in their lives.

And I can't add too much to your thoughts on replacing characters because they are pretty much exactly the same as mine.

I, for one, l v the EU.
it fills in the back stories of the "galaxy far, far, away" better than just 6 movies can.
if the story of Chewie, for example, ends with him dancing with Ewoks, that's just lame, IMO.
I want to know more, and I do know more via the EU.

IMHO, I'd rather see the first version of any EU character, than the Xth version of the characters we love from the films.

I think it's fair to say that some of the best SWM pieces, are from characters found in the EU.

some examples could include :
whorm
thrawn
bastila
xizor
dash rendar
darth bane
cad bane
revan
hk-47
the solo kids
and on and on..........

2 whole faction are just from the EU.
-all the mandos, save Boba & Jango
-all the vong

keep those EU characters coming for our beloved SWM game!

whew!
thanx for reading my longest post ever on Bloomilk, or any where for that matter.
any one else notice I only used 1 "smiley"

peace
Jak

There are basically five EU factions, right?
Sith
OR
Mandos
New Republic
Republic

And then big chunks of Imperial, Republic, and Seps come from non-movie sources. There's not so much Rebel stuff outside the movies - I can't think of much outside the Force Unleashed stuff, and pieces from the v-sets like Kyle Katarn Rebel Operative and the SpecForce guys.