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Bubba Fett wrote:If Lucas is not involved, it is going to be an epic fail. Star Wars is George Lucas. Some may say he totally controlled but he has a right to, he created it. I have mixed feelings. Yeah for another Star Wars movie, but is it going to be a total flop. I mean "Disney presents Star Wars, Episode VII" just really doesn't ring. I like star wars where Lucas left it. It gives you a basis, but doesn't necessarily require you to go exactly as depicted. I just afraid another episode, and maybe more after that, will make it so it is only one dimensional. Also, if they don't use the original actors, I'm going to be a little ticked, but that would also cost them a ton of money. The best thing Disney can do to keep a large fan base is to keep the master of it all, George Lucas, for recommendations and advice. I'm sure it will flop, just like their last summer blockbuster, The Avengers
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Bubba Fett wrote:The best thing Disney can do to keep a large fan base is to keep the master of it all, George Lucas, for recommendations and advice. Which is why he is the creative consultant. Also, last I checked, only two Star Wars actors have any real star power, and I doubt they are bringing back Vader. And remember, ESB, arguably the best Star Wars movie, was not directed by Lucas. There has been an entire generation that was raised with Star Wars. What talent can they attract just by saying "Do you want to do Star Wars?". The infusion of new blood and ideas, without Lucas's dictorial reign, is exciting. From what I've seen, Disney has not ruined Marvel Studios, so Lucasfilm should be okay. I'm all for great Star Wars stories, even if they throw out other stories. It's still too early to say whether this will be good or bad, but I'm choosing to be optimistic.
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Sithborg wrote:And remember, ESB, arguably the best Star Wars movie, was not directed by Lucas. There has been an entire generation that was raised with Star Wars. What talent can they attract just by saying "Do you want to do Star Wars?". The infusion of new blood and ideas, without Lucas's dictorial reign, is exciting. From what I've seen, Disney has not ruined Marvel Studios, so Lucasfilm should be okay. I'm all for great Star Wars stories, even if they throw out other stories. It's still too early to say whether this will be good or bad, but I'm choosing to be optimistic. This is what I'm thinking. That is what happened with the original Clone Wars cartoon and that turned out great! Just like Sithborg I'm optimistic especially after Marvel Studios.
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Sithborg wrote: And remember, ESB, arguably the best Star Wars movie, was not directed by Lucas. There has been an entire generation that was raised with Star Wars. What talent can they attract just by saying "Do you want to do Star Wars?". The infusion of new blood and ideas, without Lucas's dictorial reign, is exciting.
Bold added. Just because he didn't direct did not mean he wasn't involved. (He happened to be the writer). I am so tired of this sentiment that George Lucas can only ruin Star Wars, or that he is hampering it from reaching its alleged "potential." When people like us start setting our goals and expectations on the work of others, it's time to take a step back and realize that just because we enjoy it and can relate to it and can get lost in it, it does not mean that it is actually ours. I am not convinced that removing the storyteller's influence from the story (which will happen eventually) means it can really be the same story, or that it could be "better" while still being the same story.
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Lawrence Kasdan wrote the screenplay for ESB under George's supervision. Kirschner took the time to flesh it out though, leading to the shoot going over budget, which was a major factor in the falling out between Lucas and Kurtz. George was really peeved that the cost had climbed up to 30 million.
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R5Don4 wrote:Lawrence Kasdan wrote the screenplay for ESB under George's supervision. Kirschner took the time to flesh it out though, leading to the shoot going over budget, which was a major factor in the falling out between Lucas and Kurtz. George was really peeved that the cost had climbed up to 30 million. I don't think it is a coincidence that what is (nearly) universally considered the finest SW film is also the same film in which Lucas had the least control/input. George Lucas is a great idea man and a darn good story guy. I happen to think he was a solid director at one point, but sadly I feel that ship has sailed. E1-3 had a lot of hype and anticipation to live up to. Perhaps it was unrealistic. However, can you honestly say any of them are all-around good films? They are fun and certainly entertaining, but story problems, continuity issues, poor directing, wooden acting and atrocious dialogue are too much to overlook. Disney taking the reigns, while Lucas still having creative input, might be the best situation for SW (and therefore SW fans) in a long, long time.
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I honestly don't mind that Disney now owns the franchise, but I am disappointed that they will be making new movies, as I believe that Episode VI ended the series of movies well. But, Disney does make good action movies (Pirates of the Caribbean,The Avengers, etc.
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AdmiralMotti89 wrote:When people like us start setting our goals and expectations on the work of others, it's time to take a step back and realize that just because we enjoy it and can relate to it and can get lost in it, it does not mean that it is actually ours. Of course not, which is why I haven't exactly bashed the Clone Wars and it's contradictions. And why I'm not all in a panic attack about the post ROTJ EU. Will Episode VII be 100% George's story? No. But neither were ESB or ROTJ. I think the prequels could've used some voice other than Lucas's. Somethings only work with the original creators. Some could use a different feel. I look at the Hobbit TRILOGY, and think, Guilermo Del Toro should've done the two movies instead of letting Jackson back in and over do the movies. Star Wars has proven to do well with other's influences. So I'm going to chose to be optimistic the new blood brings in some great stories.
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I think I might have been reading things that I see often, but were not in your post SB.
At no one in particular, I guess the point I am trying to make is that it really irks me that Lucas is some sort of villain that is ruining Star Wars for people when so much of what they do love about it (from a certain point of view, ALL of it) is due to him. Struggling for an analogy, I won't attempt one right now.
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I am concerned just how much of an influence this news will have on our game! Now there are going to be Mouse Droids everywhere...
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kezzamachine wrote:I am concerned just how much of an influence this news will have on our game! Now there are going to be Mouse Droids everywhere... Mouse droids I can live with ... I don't want any Bombad Goofy's ... On a side note, should we assume the "Live Action TV show" is DOA?
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surf_rider56 wrote:kezzamachine wrote:I am concerned just how much of an influence this news will have on our game! Now there are going to be Mouse Droids everywhere... Mouse droids I can live with ... I don't want any Bombad Goofy's ... On a side note, should we assume the "Live Action TV show" is DOA? Either that or it will star Hannah Montana and be shown at 4 pm on weekdays.
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Now the question is: will they be live action or rendered? With the work Pixar has been turning out, and the access to 3D, rendered could be interesting.
Of course, the last few episodes of season 3 clone wars were amazing. As comparison I watched the first couple discs of season one...wow, so archaic.
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Our Future .......
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This is my favorite day! The less Lucas is involved the better. This could be good...
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I honestly am very excited for the future of Star Wars; and while I don't agree with all of the decisions Lucas has made I want to personally thank him for creating a universe that has forever changed my creative thinking and processes. I'm happy that he will still be involved because I truly believe that Disney will initially need creative feedback moving forward to make sure the transition is true to Star Wars. I'm very excited to see more movies and hopefully new unique and creative stories and characters.
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Azrikel wrote:I honestly am very excited for the future of Star Wars; and while I don't agree with all of the decisions Lucas has made I want to personally thank him for creating a universe that has forever changed my creative thinking and processes. I'm happy that he will still be involved because I truly believe that Disney will initially need creative feedback moving forward to make sure the transition is true to Star Wars. I'm very excited to see more movies and hopefully new unique and creative stories and characters. +1
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Azrikel wrote:I honestly am very excited for the future of Star Wars; and while I don't agree with all of the decisions Lucas has made I want to personally thank him for creating a universe that has forever changed my creative thinking and processes. I'm happy that he will still be involved because I truly believe that Disney will initially need creative feedback moving forward to make sure the transition is true to Star Wars. I'm very excited to see more movies and hopefully new unique and creative stories and characters. +1 indeed.
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da, da, da. New blood, fresh ideas. But can you tell me, what interesting plot could be in next episodes? Pussy Luke? And who can replace Harrison Ford on Han Solo character? From this point, it cant be good.
On the other hand, i'll enjoy old republic movies. Revan, Malgus, maybe Exar - and in my opinion disney should go that way.
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