He is solid, I just wish he had some Force Points. We have Han Solos with Force Points for goodness sake! Just cause Kyle isn't swinging around his lightsaber doesn't mean he doesn't have a connection to the Force!

With 1 or 2 FP I think he would be GREAT (doesn't even need any powers.)

I'd actaully like a Morgan Katarn, Force Spirit that gives Kyle a Force Rating.

EDIT: And Jan giving him Opportunist is pretty nice.

Thank goodness we have Camraderie. Maybe a new Juno could be in the works that could give him a boost. You could even put on some synergy also to give him a defense boost. Just a thought.

Yeah, that's a good idea, one I'd like to see happen. He's worse in Rebels than in Imperials, so a Juno would be a great way to help him become a strong Rebel piece but not too strong of an Imperial piece.

He's not an option in either, no-one plays him so your comment that he is worse in rebel is irrelevant.

The argument surrounding the effect affinity had on the build of the character was, and still is, crap.

Would the VSet committee be open to a Camaraderie that would be different for each faction? Knowing Juno was Imp then Reb, would she be able to have affinity either and then a Camaraderie (Unique living characters whose name contains "Galen Marek" or "Vader's Apprentice" gain either Jedi Hunter, if in an Imperial squad, or Master of the Force 2, if in a Rebel squad.). This is merely an example.

I'm sure that would be a nightmare for tournies featuring a squad of those two and a bunch of Fringe.

I expected that answer but I figure I would ask anyway. I figured you would answer that way as you are the first name in rules interactions. I don't want to be responsible for the man in charge of rules have an aneurysm. Thank you for the response.

I started the stat block and he wouldn't have been all that different.

Force pull would've been replace attacks and his stats would've improved plus i think his cost would've dropped to about 60. But MotF2 or FR2 were also options. He was a force beast after all, now he just struggles with force running out too much.

Essentially, force pull would've been his big thing where he could've been swapped/levitated and isolate a danger fig to beat on out of sight. in rebels mobile/evade/levitate would have added some tricks to his game and in imperials he would've had swap range to do it. He can still do it but the replaces turn really makes it harder to use and replaces turn is more counter productive to the rebels where they lost the mobile aspect of the pull

He would still have had repulse for crowd control (although it might have been repulse 3 rather than 4) and all the other stuff but his cost would've been easier to build around. The thread got hung up around first force pull, and then repulse and the option of dropping his cost was fiercely resisted. As a result the thread focused on toning him down where he just needed refining to fit his role in the rebels better.

So basically he's about 6-10 points too expensive, too static and suffers from force depletion issues.

fingersandteeth hit the same things I would say about Galen. Force Pull 2 instead of 3, Force Repulse 3 instead of 4, and then Force Renewal 2 would have made a much more balanced, competitive, Force-using beast, as Galen should be. They're relatively subtle changes but would have been very significant.

I also pushed for him to have better Rapport or even Synergy for Juno (I specifically suggested that he get +2/+2 while within 6 of her), but that got met with surprisingly strong resistance. I still don't understand some of the arguments made against that to this day. *shrug*

I am happy to see that some people do like playing with him, though. He is a neat piece; I played him in the Team Royal Rumble event at GenCon. He just isn't competitive at all, and I think he should have been because Rebels really needed a competitive beatstick and Imperials could have benefited from one that isn't a Vader.

I think the competitiveness is much easier to fix than the "feel" of playing TFU. That's the real toughie to design.

Just saw this. Okay so this is more on par with what happened. An Imperial squad running him with Jarael allowed 18-square movement, swap, 6 more squares of movement and then Force Pop (sorry I don't have the card in front of me so I can't tell you for sure what abilities he has by name). Tempo control had next to nothing to do with it. In several games, it wiped out at least half the other squad on the very first turn. It was broken in those games that were played. Others may feel free to disagree, but I don't regret voicing my concerns. I'd rather have a figure that ended up being a disappointment for one of the designers (God knows I have had several myself) than to have a piece that the next 3 design teams are scrambling to come up with counters to because it sneaks through as a powerhouse gatekeeper (been on that side of the fence as well, not fun).