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CCC Week 8 Jango Fett Mandalorian Options
pegolego
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:57:47 PM
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markedman247 wrote:
In regards to the "UNO Bomber" that's sullying the contest, I would suggest listing your characters without rankings active. Too many outside factors causing issues. Bring your votes/rankings here and average.


I don't think you can disable ratings on customs like on squads. But we haven't been using the Bloomilk system ratings for the purposes of this contest anyway, so you can keep entering without fear of it affecting your chances to win Smile
Deathwielded
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:24:49 PM
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pegolego wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
In regards to the "UNO Bomber" that's sullying the contest, I would suggest listing your characters without rankings active. Too many outside factors causing issues. Bring your votes/rankings here and average.


I don't think you can disable ratings on customs like on squads. But we haven't been using the Bloomilk system ratings for the purposes of this contest anyway, so you can keep entering without fear of it affecting your chances to win Smile

Yep I don't use the Bloomilk custom ratings for this contest, just what we post in this thread when we vote. That way we prevent uno bombers and insure that older customs don't have an unfair advantage.

Also you can't win this contest unless you vote to prevent winning via not voting for the opposition. To be considered to have voted you must rate each character in the contest AND place a single vote for the one you think is best.

I suggest that you please also rate the characters custom version in the Bloomilk rating system so they can get some votes. (that was one of the original ideas as to why we are doing the contest FYI)

The Uno Bomber/s is a coward, he will never amount to anything. He is so petty that while he was opinions he doesn't express them and give constructive criticism to help the creator correct his problem. He instead hides behind anonymity and strikes from the crowd, because he is too impotent to make a solid case for what he feels.
Shame on youThumbDown
CorranHornsux123
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:28:05 PM
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Deathwielded wrote:
pegolego wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
In regards to the "UNO Bomber" that's sullying the contest, I would suggest listing your characters without rankings active. Too many outside factors causing issues. Bring your votes/rankings here and average.


I don't think you can disable ratings on customs like on squads. But we haven't been using the Bloomilk system ratings for the purposes of this contest anyway, so you can keep entering without fear of it affecting your chances to win Smile

Yep I don't use the Bloomilk custom ratings for this contest, just what we post in this thread when we vote. That way we prevent uno bombers and insure that older customs don't have an unfair advantage.

Also you can't win this contest unless you vote to prevent winning via not voting for the opposition. To be considered to have voted you must rate each character in the contest AND place a single vote for the one you think is best.

I suggest that you please also rate the characters custom version in the Bloomilk rating system so they can get some votes. (that was one of the original ideas as to why we are doing the contest FYI)

The Uno Bomber/s is a coward, he will never amount to anything. He is so petty that while he was opinions he doesn't express them and give constructive criticism to help the creator correct his problem. He instead hides behind anonymity and strikes from the crowd, because he is too impotent to make a solid case for what he feels.
Shame on youThumbDown


I read Deathweilds 2nd sentence in Thor's Voice xD
Deathwielded
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:31:28 PM
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And just to be honest, the lowest rating I ever gave was a 4, and that was because the creator accused me of plagiarism (never saw his piece) and when I found his version, I saw that we had some slight similarities, but they were clearly two different versions. The reason I gave him a low rating was because his version was not well executed and had several problems and to accuse me when he obviously had problems was an insult. (BTW I did post a comment on his character telling him what needed corrected.)
Deathwielded
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:33:29 PM
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Hey guys while we're voting how about we name the character we would pick if we won the contest?
(maybe give some ideasWink)
CorranHornsux123
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:34:43 PM
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i think the lowest rating ive even gave (since the year ive been here) would be a 3, because the person just threw SA's on there and it didnt even look like they tried to make it Flavorful with the character.
Cassus fett
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:38:04 PM
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Deathwielded wrote:
pegolego wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
In regards to the "UNO Bomber" that's sullying the contest, I would suggest listing your characters without rankings active. Too many outside factors causing issues. Bring your votes/rankings here and average.


I don't think you can disable ratings on customs like on squads. But we haven't been using the Bloomilk system ratings for the purposes of this contest anyway, so you can keep entering without fear of it affecting your chances to win Smile

Yep I don't use the Bloomilk custom ratings for this contest, just what we post in this thread when we vote. That way we prevent uno bombers and insure that older customs don't have an unfair advantage.

Also you can't win this contest unless you vote to prevent winning via not voting for the opposition. To be considered to have voted you must rate each character in the contest AND place a single vote for the one you think is best.

I suggest that you please also rate the characters custom version in the Bloomilk rating system so they can get some votes. (that was one of the original ideas as to why we are doing the contest FYI)

The Uno Bomber/s is a coward, he will never amount to anything. He is so petty that while he was opinions he doesn't express them and give constructive criticism to help the creator correct his problem. He instead hides behind anonymity and strikes from the crowd, because he is too impotent to make a solid case for what he feels.
Shame on youThumbDown




OMG!!!!!! +90000000000000000000000000 Exactly what i've been thinking
Robobob
Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:43:54 PM
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I'm gonna sit out this one, because I know I'm not going to have time to vote this weekend. Good luck all and I hope to catch next week. :)
Deathwielded
Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2013 6:38:47 AM
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Robobob wrote:
I'm gonna sit out this one, because I know I'm not going to have time to vote this weekend. Good luck all and I hope to catch next week. :)


Aww sorry to hear that... Hope to see you again in the contest next week!
CerousMutor
Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2013 9:32:04 AM
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Well, this is a tough one! Lots of variety and birds of feather.

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend
pegolego
Perfect for the conservative point spender. Fragile if he gets caught out, but a very useful piece. As a name I'd prefer Jango Fett, Mandalorian of Legend.
9.75

Jango Fett, Young Mandalore
CorranHornsux123
Busy bee for only 43! Flight, twin, double, BH and Careful shot! Lots and lots going on! I like what you are trying to do with My Son, but I think it would’ve been better if he was more expensive and it allowed a lower point Boba to be in his squad. Last Mandalorian is a great ability! 9

Mand'alor CerousMutor

Jango Fett, The Last Mandalorian
Cassus fett
Battered Survivor & Slug-Thrower are really good on this, giving it some real flavour. Good defence, flight and mobile give him a lot of survive ability and he can pick up a lot of CE bonuses.
Nice and effective. 9

Jango Fett, Mandalorain Hero
Deathwielded
Overload is the biggy on this one, followed by Dual WESTAR-34 Blaster Pistols , a nice touch, target whoever or Missile them, GADOOSH!! Plus Affinity and pickups with CE’s easy 9.5

Jango Fett, Squad Commander
Lord_Ball
Cheap and useful! Fire Support and his CE makes him very, very versatile. A lot of damage done by this chap and his quad! 9.5

Jango Fett, Progenitor
saber1
Beast builder! Gives out boosts, able to boost! Wow! Powerful Mandalorian squads and all for a nice price too! 9.75

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior
harryg
This is good. Beasty Jango balanced by the cost, nothing to fancy just a power house, who will only get stronger when in a good CE squad. 9.75

Jango Fett, Mand'alor
AndyHatton
This is all about the movement. Good price and Fisticuffs is a hoot! The ability reflects his hand to hand skill, but the name just makes me think of the artful Dodger from Oliver! 9

Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan
SignerJ
Not enough HP on this for my liking but I think that is the key, he is automatically over looked because of that, he would be a great distraction piece, the low HP gives him a big bulls eye when he comes into view. Great selection of abilities. 9


Tough choice between the below. Tougher choice just getting to the below!!
Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend
Pegolego
Jango Fett, Progenitor
saber1
Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior
Harryg
Jango Fett, Squad Commander
Lord_Ball

I think I’ve got to choose between Saber1 or Harryg.

My vote is for Saber1


Sorry Harryg, love your stand alone Jango but the squad potential was the winner for me.





harryg
Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2013 11:44:18 AM
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Jango Fett, the Last Mandalorian by cassus Fett , a definite Jedi hate piece with lots of squad potential. 8.5
Jango Fett, young Mandalore by Corranhornsux123, nice mix of abilities especially vengeance, my only complaint is That i dont understand boba/sep synergy on a younger jango. 8.75
Jango Fett, Squad Commander by Lord Ball, a real cheap jango who gives out squad firepower, which could be big with the scouts, and combined with cassus Fett means a lot of fire support mission. 9.25
Jango Fett, Mandalor by AndyHatton, a Melee-based jango that is insanely good at what he does for his cost, 9.75
Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan by SignerJ, a jango that is only really worth the cost if he can pull off 70% of those boosts IMO, or if he had Overload.
8.25
Jango Fett, Mandalorian Hero, this is the best representation of Jango I've seen. Overload Jetpack and his other toys make him very accurate to the character. 10
Mandalor by Cereous mutor: com link and broadband seem irrelevent with kel born but still 9.25
Jango Fett Progenitor by saber1, like him especially the ce,9
Jango Fett, mandolorian legend by pegolego, like the simple approach, 8.75
saber1
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Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend by pegolego
Light on HPs so the subtitle feels off, but the suite of abilities look appropriate. Cheap enough to fit into many squads, he's one of the simpler entries but Accurate, Intuition, Flight and Twin shouldn't be underestimated. 8.5

Jango Fett, Young Mandalore by CorranHornsux123
That CE might be awesome, or may be problematic. I'm not sure which will prove true. My Son turned out nicely, a different twist on Synergy. Vengeance and Rival add nice flavor. Double/Twin seems a bit aggressive at 43 points. However, that is mitigated by lack of movement-breaker and Accurate/Sniper. 8.75

Mand'alor by CerousMutor
I'm not crazy about the name given the existing Mandalore pieces. Quick Draw, a far more colorful mechanic for the name than the existing ability, is not unlike my custom ability of the same name. Though, at +20 damage, it feels like a bit much. Evasion is very, very cool and makes up for the lightweight HP for his cost. Wrist Rocket looks fun. If it had a Splash type of mechanic built in it would be even cooler, but I like it as is. I really like Comlink and I hope to see it in future vsets as a character-specific Booming Voice. Its very appropriate and easier to design with. 9

Jango Fett, The Last Mandalorian by Cassus fett
Beskar'gam, while cool, was not used by Jango, IIRC. He, like Boba, used a durasteel armor. Its a minor point. Slug-Thrower is cool, though I'm ambivelent about its use here, especially given his death scene on Geonosis. Battered Survivor is very flavorful. 8.5

Jango Fett, Mandalorain Hero by Deathwielded
There's a lot here and it all feels very Jangoish. Overload is a great addition, especially given the other abilities included. Jetpack, while fun, isn't that necessary. I like your use of Affinity. 9

Jango Fett, Squad Commander by Lord_Ball
A less expensive, more basic version. I'm not crazy about Fire Support Mission as it steals a lot of Cassus Fett's thunder (how ironic). Dodge is fun and useful. Rival is almost looking like an auto-include this week. I'm super enthused about Close-Quarters Fighting. The CE is good, but I've not been a fan of Squad abilities since I discovered how they operated many years ago. That being said, the first line of the CE certainly assists in making the abilities useful. 8.25

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior by harryg
You've opted to use only existing abilities. While I might be tempted to mention a lack of creativity, its difficult to argue with the package those abilities produce. Looking at similar pieces like Cade, BFBH, BFM and Cad, I feel the main detriment to this piece is the price. He's overpriced by a good 5 points (at least). 8.75

Jango Fett, Mand'alor by AndyHatton
In several ways, I like this piece for the exact opposite reasons I liked harrg's entry. You've added multiple custom abilities. Fisticuffs is a very accurate and fun ability that adds a fun melee aspect to the piece. Death Watch Survivor is also very fun and flavorful, though likely will see little use. As I mentioned to you previously, your use of Rout, I feel, steals much of Mandalore the Preserver's thunder. Unlike harryg's, your piece seems underpriced but only by a point or two. Atton is cheaper, but has no defensive abilities at all. Embo is more expensive but has more limited mobility. 9

Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan by SignerJ
The suite of abilites are both accurate and powerful. What kills it for me is the HP/cost ratio. First, his HPs are pretty weak for Jango. It wouldn't be as big an issue if there were some super defensive abilities or a far lower cost. The second is the cost. I would rather take Jango Fett, Assassin and use the 13 extra points to build around him, or go for a different character all together. Swapping Twin out for Double to allow for Double/Twin with support would have been helpful in justifying the cost as well. 8.5

This week was another squeaker as I had difficulty choosing a winner. After much deliberation, my vote goes to AndyHatton's Jango Fett, Mand'alor. CerusMutor's entry was a very, very close runner up. In the end, it was the presence of a commander effect, something I feel is overdue for the character, tipped the scales.
CorranHornsux123
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Jango Fett, the Last Mandalorian by cassus Fett , a great Jedi hunter piece with lots of squad potential. 8 1/2
Jango Fett, young Mandalore by Corranhornsux123, Me
Jango Fett, Squad Commander by Lord Ball, A nice support Jango 8 2/3
Jango Fett, Mandalor by AndyHatton, a Melee-based jango that is insanely good at what he does for his cost a good Up close Jango 9
Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan by SignerJ, Was a good Jango with some nice SA's
Jango Fett, Mandalorian Hero, was a nice Jango with ALOT of goodies 9 1/2
Man'dalor by Cereous mutor: Really enjoyed this Jango the most i like the SA's especially comlink i give you a 10
Jango Fett Progenitor by saber1, Really enjoy the Commander Effect 8 1/2
Jango Fett, mandolorian legend by pegolego, Love this Jango 9 1/2

My vote is for Cereous Mutor's Man'dalor
Deathwielded
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Cassus fett's Jango Fett, The Last Mandalorian Furious Assault is deadly and Battered Survivor is at a better level. (I didn't realize that Light Side was a game term.Confused) Slug-Thrower is a cool idea though technically Lightsabers do still stop them. They just can't reflect them. 9
CorranHornsux123's Jango Fett, Young Mandalore I'm still not a fan of Vengeance giving an attack bonus but oh well. Rival is good. there is a LOT of SA's on him, and many of them give attack boosts. I'm thinking undercosted for being as good a shooter you have made him. I like the CE and Think my Son turned out great. 8.5
Lord_Ball's Jango Fett, Squad Commander I really liked his CE boosting allies even with the possible combo between him and Manalore the Ultimate. (since that would take up a very big chunk of points and would leave much room) I think Dodge +2 is cool and I'm happy someone used Fire Support Mission (though personally I would have made him give it to Boba to represent Slave 1/4's cannon support) A good low cost Jango. 8.5
AndyHatton's Jango Fett, Mand'alor I really like the Melee emphasis on this character and he is still being a good shooter. I like how Rout and his CE work well together. Very nice and well put together. 10
harryg's Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior I really liked all the SA's on him and think he is a well put together version then I saw how high he costed WhoowScared , I don't remember him costing so much! I would cost this guy like 30-25 points less and I should have cought that before Friday night so you could change that. This is my favorite character you have entered in the contest so far and even with the cost problem I'm still gonna give you a 9
SignerJ's Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan I realize that this is one of your first customs on Bloomilk (thus isn't quite up to the standerds you have now) but I think he coulda been updated. Overcosted and the HP is a little low for Jango. I would up his missiles IMO 8
CerousMutor's (Jango Fett) Mand'alor Evasion, Wrist Rocket and Quick Draw are good. And Comlink is a very neat idea! I think Relay Orders would have been fine instead of Broadband Antenna. I don't think he was wearing Beskar'gam and instead chose Durasteal but I'm not sure. he is probably overcosted so I'm giving you a 9
saber1's Jango Fett, Progenitor I was also thinking of adding some clone love, but you did it far better then I ever would have! I love everything on this character! A great Melee specialist. Perhaps in hindsight I should have suggested giving him Double since now he can gain Twin from the Mando Capt. I kinda wish he had some more Ranged damage output for his cost. still an easy 10
pegolego's Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend first of all I'm glad to see you get a chance to enter!ThumbsUp I like Hunter A lot and you definitely represented and emphasized his Skills here as opposed to his gadgets. (just as you wanted) 9.5

My vote for this weeks CCC goes to: Saber1's entry! There was a lot of good versions this week and some great ideas!
Deathwielded
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Saber1 I didn't see who you placed your vote for would you be so kind to finish voting?Wink

HarryG I'm not 100% but it looks like you voted for me (thank you!BigGrin) could you just clarify your vote please?
harryg
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Yes I did
harryg
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And can I reduce his cost I forgot to update that was his cost with super stealth ce and willing to serve
Deathwielded
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harryg wrote:
And can I reduce his cost I forgot to update that was his cost with super stealth ce and willing to serve

Unfortunately not until the end of the contest. But you can at least say that he should have been costed at so and so and hopefully others like me will realize this and not penalize your character
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Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend
pegolego
Perfect for conservative people. Very fragile in the wrong situations
8.75

Jango Fett, Young Mandalore
CorranHornsux123
I really feel like the flavour was lost and he's not a *young mandalore* he's an incredible warrior like in AOTC. But other then that he's decent. 8

Mand'alor CerousMutor: Broad band Antenna is cool but other then that I find him very bland and not very stand out. 7.5


Jango Fett, The Last Mandalorian
Cassus fett: No Comment


Jango Fett, Mandalorain Hero
Deathwielded
I don't know what to say other then I don't really like the Dual Westars Ability. 7.5

Jango Fett, Squad Commander
Lord_Ball
Very Very Very nice flavour, and very nice work. 10

Jango Fett, Progenitor
saber1
Good figure well put toghether. 9.5

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior
harryg
This is good. Well thought out almost missed this because you were late to entry but glad I saw it. 8.5

Jango Fett, Mand'alor
AndyHatton
This is... interesting kind of like mine it's all about getting up in peoples face and beating them down, but this version has the added bonus of some extra movement. 9

Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan
SignerJ
Really should have updated him and not just entered him as is as it could have been alot better. The low HP has been mentioned time and time again but there just seems to be something off to me with this guy. 7.75



My vote goes to Lord Balls Squad Commander.
pegolego
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Here we go!

Jango Fett, The Last Mandalorian (Cassus Fett) 9
Very mobile Jango obviously. Very nicely balanced. I like this one a lot.

Jango Fett, Young Mandalore (CorranHornsux123) 9
Hmm... I understand the flavor you were going for I think, but with a name like 'Young Mandalore', I didn't expect Seps as an option. Also, LOTS of abilities for a shooter (though that doesn't deduct from any ratings for the purposes of this contest). As I said on the piece, I love all the synergies/anti-synergies you made. I love the CE. I try not to rate in percentages in this contest (as you can't in the BM rating system for one reason), and this is one of the best in the contest, but not THE best, so it's a 9 from me.

Jango Fett, Squad Commander (Lord Ball) 10
The best in the contest so far (expect no less from LB!). I love Dodge; a simple but not too powerful way to give some defense boost for his cost, and very flavorful. The only thing I can see being a problem is Canderous Ordo + Mando Captain and some Mando groups with this guy hiding in the back. But, it's not guaranteed, and how many people play Ordo anyway? GREAT use of few abilities; simple, but looks like he would be great fun to play.

Jango Fett, Mand'alor (AndyHatton) 8
A lot of interesting abilities on this one, but not a lot that I personally love on him. I guess I just don't see this one as one I would have fun with playing him. Sorry Crying. Still, not a bad Jango, from what I know about him.

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Warrior (harryg) 9
This one is POTENT, and quite interesting. Dangerous shooter, great from range with missiles, deadlier up close. Seems defenseless at first glance, but don't underestimate stealth, which I quite like on this piece. Nice job! ThumpUp

Jango Fett, Survivor of Galidraan (SignerJ) 7
First, let me say I have ZERO familiarity with Galidraan or anything that happened in that building or house or whatever it is Razz, so my ratings will be based more on how it represents Jango to me, and how it plays in the game than it might if I knew more about the intended 'scene' of the piece. Anyhoo.... I'm not sure about this one. Lots of abilities, as, like most Jango's, he has plenty of weapons in his arsenal, but also a load of abilities to boost his attacking ability, and no defense. I don't think the gadgets make up his cost with 80 HP here.

Jango Fett, Mand'alor (CerousMutor) 8
I've seen RB's 'Evasion' before, and never took much note of it, but I like it here. I don't really care for Wrist Rocket though. Also, quick draw is interesting, and represents a quick draw pretty well, but I don't really like the way it works overall (also, there is already an ability called quick draw, from a recent v-set I believe). Still, not a bad Jango, and is a nice way to spread your CE's besides Mice (and a nice flavor)

Jango Fett, Progenitor (Saber1) 9
I like your unique approach (though strangely, another focusing on his melee abilities...). The CE is creative, though I don't really care much for it (just my .02). I love that you included Pilot, but for his other abilities... Some fit really well, a few don't as well. You did a lot to focus well on his melee prowess, but left enough for his shooting ability (I may have preferred something besides Accurate for that purpose on this piece though). Well done overall.

Jango Fett, Mandalorian Legend (pegolego) 1
NO! (Tard, The Official Grumpy Cat face) Angry

EDIT EDIT EDIT!: Jango Fett, Mandalorian Hero (Deathwielded) 9
I like this one. I'm a fan of Mando/Sep pieces. Another Jango that's great at long distance (Accurate/Mobile), mid-range (Missiles/Flamethrower) and up close (GK). At first though, I didn't see much that set this piece a part. Then I saw Jetpack. I love the Overload here. Great execution, I love this custom!

And the vote goes to Lord Ball this week ThumbsUp BlooMilk

Lots of great entries in this contest; great field of competition, I look forward to the result!




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