yeah they affected his squad only. i am concerned that the other squads were left alone is all. like i said, she is probaly the flavor of the month and people have probably had enough of her and won't run her anymore anyways.

Boy TINT, I bet you were wishing you played your Yodabuck squad during that match

During that match, yes. But Yobuck is also an auto-loss vs Naboo Troopers, who I had to face the round before. So it was 6 of one and half-a-dozen of the other. GOWK/Mace doesn't have a lot of trouble vs the low-attack Naboo...but it's a very bad day vs Force-Immune shooters with insanely high attack scores.

Big time +1.

Reserves is just a bad ability anyway. Good players don't rely on it. They might happen to have an already good piece that has it (Mon Mothma, Ozzel, San, etc) and the number might happen to come up - but they don't build for it. Pieces with 4 numbers for reserves (Vader AoE, Pong Krell, Kazdan Paratus) are exclusively tier 2 at best and made for casual play. Due to their ultra swingy nature they can beat better squads, but they won't do it consistently. Top tier pieces should not have reserves . . . ever. A few WotC top tier pieces have it, but we shouldn't continue their mistakes.

On paper it looks good (Klats take shots without reprisal all game long). However, the Klats do 20dmg shots, while the Naboo Troopers have 30hp, which means it takes 2 Klats to take down a single trooper...meanwhile all the troopers are surging forward another 12 squares each round. It'll be nearly impossible to keep the rest of my pieces out of LOS while my 3 Klats stay alive long enough to take down all 15+ Troopers. My only option would be to somehow squeak Yobuck in deep for a kill shot vs Mothma or Mas, but there's no way a good player would allow that. So while the Klats would certainly be helpful, I really don't think they'd have enough oomph to finish the job.

Have you actually played with or against Daala? The squad that came second at GenCon this year (http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/142244/-only-tarkins-finest--2nd-place-gencon-2014), and the squad that won the NZ Nationals (http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/139645/daala-in-her-prime-v2-0), are largely unaffected by the latest changes. They just lose reserves - reserves can be very significant if they come up, but you can't rely on them. Daala squads are still plenty competitive, as are Thrawn squads.




Do you have any evidence that she wasn't broken without the slaver? The Slaver was arguably the most abusive part of Daala squads, since movement is such a huge part of this game, and it meant that she was just about unbeatable, since she could track down pieces like the Lancer from just about anywhere, but even without the Zygerrians, she was still packing too much power for most squads to handle.

I don't see any errata coming to any of those pieces anytime soon.

I don't think the change has to do with whether it's beatable, but the effect it has on the playability of other squad types - particularly the squad types that a large number of people want to play. The Raxus/Elites + Repulsor have had more tournament success and I think they are stronger as a tournament squad than Snowtroopers (even before the Snowtrooper errata). However, Snowtroopers have more near auto-wins and near auto-losses. The losses come against Yobuck/Lancer type squads (which are present but not super-popular). The wins come against rock squads and 'balanced' squads with just 3-5 offensive threats. People want to play those types of squads, but it's exactly those types of squads that are chased away by Snowtroopers. Hence, the Rapport change.

Regarding Reserves - I agree with TimmerB on this one. Reserves should not be on Tier 1 pieces.

On a completely different note - the errata could end up making Daala stronger. If she's 'weaker' and the meta becomes less scissors-heavy as a result, then as a tournament team she could end up being stronger just because she has fewer bad matchups. Suppose she goes from 80% wins against rocks and 80% losses against scissors down to 70% wins against rocks and 90% losses against scissors. That's a weaker squad, but if there are more rocks and fewer scissors then overall it's better for her. Of course, she also becomes slightly worse against other swarms, too, which have beaten her multiple times this season.

No, the issue is solved, finished. Now its up to the designers to not allow a clusterfuck like this to happen again.

Excessive rapport of cheap pieces is bad
Excessive boosting of cheap pieces is bad
Designing pieces that are overly strong and toning them down till they "fit" is a poor strategy when adequate playtesting is hard to come by.

These are the lessons to be learned. Nothing has polarized a vset releases like the zyg and Daala.

I'm sorry you feel Daala is too weak. The fact that Dr Daman cleaned house in NZ with a squad that has only lost reserves really makes your point and position weak.

+1
Well said.