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CCC Week 77 - Fallen, Redeemed, or the Grey in Between Options
swinefeld
Posted: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:58:22 AM
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Lol, I need to get an entry up. Don't really have time for a new character, so this:

http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/18186/depa-billaba--fallen-jedi

I'm thinking of raising cost and making her a bit stronger against Mace. Unsure
jen'ari
Posted: Thursday, November 2, 2017 12:12:40 PM
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HovaUseless wrote:
I think Ezra from Rebels is grey enough to be in this contest. So i have made this draft. I would like some feedback pls, extra on Beast Trick and Weather or not he is using Ataru or not.

Bloo Link: http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28418/ezra-bridger

Edit: This is post Maul/Sith Holocron time



tough to say if he uses Ataru, when he was helping "train" Sabine it looked more like Soresu to me.

Kanan was definitely taught Soresu.

We do not see many acrobatics from Ezra that i am aware of. Might not employ any style and just be a conglomerate

But beyond that, Ataru the SA is so hard to utilize because it makes for a tad lesser attack rating. Ezra could have an 11 or 12 no problem.

I like FD on him and GMA.

What if he had Rapport 1 for Loth Cats!?
jak
Posted: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:34:02 PM
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http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28419/daye-azur-jamin

not a lot of info on skills
use imagination to make a cyborg Jedi
blemelisk
Posted: Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:30:34 PM
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jen'ari wrote:
Interesting for sure, We do have more data on Ulic to go on after he was severed. Even with the force severed he was still better than jedi knight level with a saber and even taught Nomi Sunrider's daughter ways of the jedi and of the saber.
He found other means to meditate and things.
I think the better question is what does severed from the force actually mean?

I think it is a One way street. Ulic is severed from the force, but the force is not severed from Ulic.

Ulic can not draw on the energy around him, but the energy around him can still influence Ulic.


Becoming more of a "monk" type individual. Spiritual in nature.

He was seemingly broken in spirit but Vima Sunrider brought him back to a form of his old self. There is the element of others and their influence on the Force as well. Relationships do seem to have an influence on what the Force does.


VERY valid point. It is interesting to think what she did to him and what effect it really have with him and the force.

I have decided im going to go with the Surf route and start off with 2 characters Borsk Fey'lya (from the books, whom in many ways betrays the new republic, and thus will have a political falling/betrayal thing which will be difficult to do into our game) AND Quinlan Vos as ....well yes, he flirts so close to the dark side who is to say he didnt fall into it? Either him or a Cade Skywalker sith. The latter two will be rather easy, as they either did, or actually stepped over the line for a bit and came back from it.
spryguy1981
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 4:40:23 AM
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SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED REBELS!!!!!


http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28420/alexsandr-kallus
saber1
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 8:14:43 AM
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Juhani, Cathar Jedi

I thought I'd throw some light back on KotOR. I found this character to be interesting in the game and she seemed to fit the theme this week.
surf_rider56
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 8:40:58 AM
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blemelisk wrote:
I have decided im going to go with the Surf route
.... a "surfing safari?" Sorry, was listening to the Beach Boys earlier .... carry on .... RollEyes
HovaUseless
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 3:14:30 PM
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General_Grievous wrote:
Excellent Ezra! Really like that you have Dominate on there. Also I would have thought Soresu instead of Ataru (Obi-Wan's holocron) or maybe Juyo (Darth Maul haha) but that's just off the top of my head and maybe someone else knows better.


jen'ari wrote:
tough to say if he uses Ataru, when he was helping "train" Sabine it looked more like Soresu to me.

Kanan was definitely taught Soresu.

We do not see many acrobatics from Ezra that i am aware of. Might not employ any style and just be a conglomerate

But beyond that, Ataru the SA is so hard to utilize because it makes for a tad lesser attack rating. Ezra could have an 11 or 12 no problem.


I went with Ataru because i saw this as the most flavor friendly form (maybe actually Juyo). In the Anakin holocron, Anakin talks about Form IV and some adjustments he made for deflecting see: https://youtu.be/3YKgu3nMqUs?t=31s
But against Sabine it's was Soresu.
A few examples of Ataru in use.

https://i.gyazo.com/e6c4fc15ddcde39481825fd98775f4bf.mp4

https://i.gyazo.com/d6f6defd5c9577c4011adca5b0aaf69f.mp4

But i agree that in game terms, Ataru isn't as useful as Soresu. Might even give him Shii-Cho as he disarms the stormtroopers.

And i will change Beast Trick to GG suggestion.


saber1
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 11:15:07 PM
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spryguy1981 wrote:
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED REBELS!!!!!


http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28420/alexsandr-kallus


Thanks for the spoiler warning. I haven't watched yet so I won't be able to critique or vote on this piece. 😒
saber1
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 11:17:59 PM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
So, as usual, I'm stuck on who. I actually had Four at one point, but I didn't like the answer on whether Valara Saar or the An'ya Kuo were Gray enough, so I've gone with these two.


Maris Brood, Fugitive Padawan This Maris Brood after she's been found and worked with Shaak Ti, before Starkiller made his appearence. Quite the nervous Nellie.






Sora Bulq, Tempted to the Dark Side This is Sora Bulq, just as Dooku is converting him, depressed about the losses at Geonosis and vulnerable.





Hopefully, I think of something before the deadline.

Cheers,

surf


This is a tough call as I dig both of these pieces. I'm leaning a bit more toward Maris but not by much.
saber1
Posted: Friday, November 3, 2017 11:21:08 PM
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HovaUseless wrote:
I think Ezra from Rebels is grey enough to be in this contest. So i have made this draft. I would like some feedback pls, extra on Beast Trick and Weather or not he is using Ataru or not.

Bloo Link: http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28418/ezra-bridger

Edit: This is post Maul/Sith Holocron time



Slick piece! Dominate in Rebels is odd and cool. Juyo would be a tad more fun than Ataru, I think, and Soresu more useful.
surf_rider56
Posted: Saturday, November 4, 2017 8:52:01 AM
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Well, now I'm stuck. GG says go with Bulq, Saber says Brood ..... RollEyes
blemelisk
Posted: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:42:26 AM
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http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28421/quinlan-vos

quinlan always skirted with the dark side. various jedi warn him about it and most are very wary of being around him (clone wars episode shows this with Obi wan). Quinlan goes out to basically be a spy for the jedi, thus i gave him relevant abilities. Im honestly not sure what happens to Quinlan after order 66, I do not know of any comic etc that says what happens. I would find it VERY likely if he survived Order 66 he would have turned dark.

Quinlan is a sneaky assassin/operative type character here. Nothing all that unique or even that powerful in my opinion, but with a new sith type ability.

http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/28422/borsk-feylya

Borsk in many ways hurt the New Republic by his political ambition. Went against Luke and his Jedi, in the end his political intrigue cost the New Republic much to the Vong and the Empire. His was was a personal one. He lost sight of doing what is best for the cause and the New Republic, and only his own personal power mattered to him. He even drew a blaster on (then Pregnant) Leia when she insisted he stay to help defend herself and others in a pitched battle (as he wished to save his own skin and those of his supporters).

Borsk here is very interesting in my opinion. I found it hard to really relate his political ambition/intrigue etc into this game (as there are no true politics on the table). So i came up with the Political Intrigue ability, as well as borrowed a CE that i have always thought of as an overall negative CE. With the right squad build this guy could be VERY interesting, he is also VERY annoying to the opponents (obviously, with the cancel of some SAs/all CEs). I might come up with an ability that allows him to "let" a unique ally be defeated so that he and his 'followers' get some kind of benefit.
surf_rider56
Posted: Sunday, November 5, 2017 6:42:22 AM
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While I think Maris is pretty accurate as Shaak Ti's appretice before Shaak Ti's death, a newer Sora was needed, a .Sora Bulq just before his fall to the darkside. Going with Sora.
blemelisk
Posted: Sunday, November 5, 2017 3:35:11 PM
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Due to a technical issue please note that my Borsks CE should read:

Whenever a Unique character or a character with a Commander Effect is defeated, this character and all followers gain +1 attack and +1 defense.

Allies and enemies are subject to the following: Whenever a non-unique character, that costs less than this character, rolls a 1 during an attack or a save, that character is automatically defeated, all other non-unique characters gain +1 attack (this bonus stacks).


Please note I think I will be going with my Borsk, and I feel he is more interesting, and than my Voss was...well too easy, and didnt require much though. And i feel that these CCCs should make me think outside the box when i come up with something new. ThumpUp

This is still open for discussion however (this CE and Borsk)
surf_rider56
Posted: Sunday, November 5, 2017 5:32:15 PM
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..... it's Sunday night; shouldn't we be voting or something?
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, November 6, 2017 9:13:54 AM
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HovaUseless
Posted: Monday, November 6, 2017 12:14:41 PM
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jen'ari
Posted: Monday, November 6, 2017 1:56:40 PM
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1. Jak (pull and push and twin and mighty is just cool)
2. Swinefeld (a good low cost jedi in Republic, Embrace of Pain with GOWK's +4 +4 makes her pretty nasty!
3. Saber1 LOVE what you did with the Synergies! I am also a sucker for twin/throw


Very hard this time with Blemelisk's Borsk and Hovauseless Ezra making it super difficult for me.


Also a shout out for having Swinefeld on here and helping quickly answer rules questions, making our designs work the way we want them to!

spryguy1981
Posted: Monday, November 6, 2017 2:13:16 PM
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1. GG
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