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defender390
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I doubt it, considering she is dead. That was probably just a generic clawdite.
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Am i the only one that notices the Mando at the end of the preview has a lightsabor on his hip?
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Mandalore Da Beast
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Mandalorians have also been known for their Technique with Vibro Blades, making a lightsaber (though they do frown upon the use of them) the perfect tool in dispatching Jedi.
Boba Fett for example, has his very own green light saber...just ask Jaina Solo.
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Somewhat excited for this now. However, I hope they don't mess up with any of the established canon of the Karen Traviss books(Republic Commando, etc...)...
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seibermaki wrote:
Somewhat excited for this now. However, I hope they don't mess up with any of the established canon of the Karen Traviss books(Republic Commando, etc...)...


Fanon is more correct. Sorry, but Traviss's glorification of the Mandos is absurd, and I wouldn't mind them returning to the villians they are supposed to be.
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Sithborg wrote:
seibermaki wrote:
Somewhat excited for this now. However, I hope they don't mess up with any of the established canon of the Karen Traviss books(Republic Commando, etc...)...


Fanon is more correct. Sorry, but Traviss's glorification of the Mandos is absurd, and I wouldn't mind them returning to the villians they are supposed to be.


Before KOTOR, the Mandalorians were at war with the sith, Kinda making them anti-heroes. in KOTOR, they were villains.
I like to think of them as galactic mercenary muscle.
Karen traviss' stories arent "glorifications" for the Mandalorians, all she is doing with them is giving them more exposure, because in all honesty, they needed it. sure, they are cutthroat Mercs, and the best at it. theyre technology I.E, Crushgaunts and Basl'ikas are turning them into a people of industry, supplying the galaxy with the best of defenses and weaponry. Kinda like Haliburton, but way cooler and less full of crap.
so with that said, they are transitioning to a more productive aspect in the galaxy....far from villainy.
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Or at least a whole lot more in the gray area than they are in her books.

But I will try to make time for season 2. The first season wasn't so bad, I liked it and my g/f liked Ashoka and her bossy attitude. Just like every other teenage girl, ever.
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yea, theres a ton of grey area, thousands f years of it.
im just grateful they are putting the time and effort into the Mandalorians, because to me, they are the cream of the crop. the baddest of the bad. who else is going to make cortosis armor to fight off jedi? who else even has those kind of resources?
im tired of clones, rebels and imperials. lets get some new info on the beginnings of the seperatists, ya know?
And yea.....they will be villains in the show...WHICH IS STUPID!
Mandalorians trained the ARC Troopers for crying out loud!
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Not to be nitpicky or anything, but the Imperial Knights use cortosis guantlets. Also, I thought mandalorians used Mandalorian iron, not cortosis. I think they have similar properties.
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cortosis does have the same properties as Mando'ade iron. you are right.
what remains to be a mystery is, how the Imperials got access to the cortosis.
remember tho, in the LOTF novel series, the Mandos are wheeling and dealing there technology all over the place, and they are now in business with the NR and the Imperials. so the Imps could have very well dealed on Gauntlets.
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Cortosis is sold everywhere, not by the Mando's. A Mando trained the ARCs, but most of them worked for the Seps. Why does anyone besides the villains of the series need to fight off the heroes of the series, the jedi? Boba was the first Mando of Star Wars and he was a villain. They are barbaric invaders that kill people for a living, why should they be anything but villains?
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When we are arguing over which Mandalorian armor it is and we have this many examples...it's time to re-evaluate some things.
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Eroschilles wrote:
Cortosis is sold everywhere, not by the Mando's. A Mando trained the ARCs, but most of them worked for the Seps. Why does anyone besides the villains of the series need to fight off the heroes of the series, the jedi? Boba was the first Mando of Star Wars and he was a villain. They are barbaric invaders that kill people for a living, why should they be anything but villains?


never said that Mandos dealt in cortosis.
6 mandos trained the arcs.
they WERE barbaric invaders, in KOTOR, after that, they became hired Mercs(the villains i guess you would say.) and the others became Farmers and Miners.
they dont have to be the Villains, but with the way things are shaping up after LOTF, (they are in business with the Imps to take down the Jedi). and if they have to be villains, then so be it. my point is that they have all the potential to be more then that.
After the Mandalorians came to the aid of the NR, to snuff out the Vong and win the war, were they still villains?
and since we are on the subject..
does no one besides me think it strange that Jango, a mandalorian was the model for Cypher Dias' clones? Obi Wan fights jango, and the Jedi do not find it weird that their clone army was made from a Seperatist Mercenary, that one of their knights was almost killed by? they just accept these clones, out of no where. that whole scenario right there should be enough to make someone with enough sense, to scratch their head.
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If I remember correctly, cortosis originally came in two forms. One is lighsaber resistant and highly maleable, then there is one that shorts out lightsabers but is not malleable. That means that they either found a way to work with the strong cortosis, or they rewrote canon. I remeber the rebellion era Empire having cortosis, though. The Mandalorians after the Mandalorian Wars were not necessarily villains. They were contract mercenaries. They could be hired by a villain or a hero to get the job done. Boba Fett falls into that category. Jaster's Mandalorians were not necessarily villains, but the Deathwatch were. Mandalorians are more shades of grey rather than anything else.
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defender390 wrote:
If I remember correctly, cortosis originally came in two forms. One is lighsaber resistant and highly maleable, then there is one that shorts out lightsabers but is not malleable. That means that they either found a way to work with the strong cortosis, or they rewrote canon. I remeber the rebellion era Empire having cortosis, though. The Mandalorians after the Mandalorian Wars were not necessarily villains. They were contract mercenaries. They could be hired by a villain or a hero to get the job done. Boba Fett falls into that category. Jaster's Mandalorians were not necessarily villains, but the Deathwatch were. Mandalorians are more shades of grey rather than anything else.


Thank You Defender!! You are my new Best friend!
as far as the Cortosis goes, and star wars re-writing cannon, it wouldnt surprise me if they "discovered" a new type of cortosis, made of SNOT.
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hey I might like this season. I hope it redeems the first.

we'll see
Mandalore Da Beast
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like a true star wars fan, i went and saw the animated movie last year. it was the worst 10 dollars i ever spent. like a true star wars fan, i watched the 1st two episodes of the series, and i will say that the show was decent, but not enough to keep me interested.
im curious about this Cad Bane guy, and want to see mandalorians in action. so, i will be locked for the next season.
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Sithborg wrote:
Fanon is more correct. Sorry, but Traviss's glorification of the Mandos is absurd, and I wouldn't mind them returning to the villians they are supposed to be.


Sorry, but that's your opinion, and in this case,it's wrong. It IS canon. LFL signed off on the RC novels and the LOTF novels that Traviss wrote, and thus they are official canon for the SW universe. Now of course, something that you have to remember, is that Traviss writes her stories from a VERY tight 3rd person perspective, without an "omniscient narrator" like a lot of books have. So, in this case, it's referred to as an "unreliable narrator", and so you have to take things in the books with a tiny grain of salt. Yes, Traviss' books tend to paint the Mando'a in a "glorified" light, but that's mainly because it's written from the perspective of the Mando'a. Well of course they don't think they are as ruthless as the rest of the galaxy thinks they are.

But if you look close enough through all those stories, you see that the Mando'a are pretty much the same in those novels as they have been in any other piece of SW fiction. They are pretty much only concerned about what is best for them and their family, and are willing to screw over anyone else who gets in their way. Occasionally they adopt someone new into the family (a la Boba being adopted by Jango, Jango being adopted by Jaster, etc.), but otherwise, outsiders are treated as such.

I'm definitely interested to see how Dave Filoni and his team portray the Mando'a in the CW cartoon. And personally, even though I like Traviss' novels, I'd love for the Mando'a in the cartoon to be ruthless villains as well. Seeing them from a different light now and then is interesting, but I agree that they best serve the SW universe as bad guys, especially during the CW era. :)
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i will accept Mandalorians as villains, only if they pose a huge threat to the galaxy, like the Vong did, or like they did back in Kotor.
does anyone notice that Mandalorians arent even mentioned in the Legacy comic books?
i find this to be intriguing, wonder what the writers are planning pre- Legacy era....
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