I agree with opan windu drop both mettle and MOTF2 but dont drop the cost because he still has that nasty commander effect.

I think he should stay as is but cost 15-20 points more

I marked down changing SSM so that it is like SS except only Save 6 against non-adjacent attacks instead of Save 11 although that alone wouldn't fix GOWK. With that change he'd still be vulnerable to melee attacks but when combined with Mettle would be all but immune to ranged attack and adding MOTF2 fixes that issue.

Now if you are just going to lose a single ability and make no other changes then I'd say Mettle needs to go as its stacking is what makes this abusive. Without Mettle SSM only has a 75% chance at stopping damage with one FP and an 88% chance with two FP vs the 85% and 98.5% chances that exist now.

I think he'd make a nice 75 point figure.

If you make it just melee then it would be parry and just non melee woud make it evade its kind of the point he has both in one, otherwise it would just say parry/evade.

I agree Evan....I think making him a 75 point figure is a great Idea and should have been his cost to begin with. Leave him as is and raise his point value and now he is not so dominant.

I would suggest just removing MOTF 2. With only renewal 1 and his laughable damage output, he's not a huge threat in casual games with no timer and the ability to win a game 20-5 is eliminated, IMHO his high survivability is actuallly just about worth his cost.

Obi-Wan won't go down quickly, but he also can't do much damage on his own. That is his downside and in casual games, if you limit the rerolling to once a SSM save attempt, in a casual game, he becomes less of a problem because games tend to go to completion, as opposed to competitive games which tend to get called on time.

I've been tinkering with this on my own for the last couple of weeks, since I got back from GenCon.

I have told Dean that I don't think his idea "flows" with the basic style of Soresu, and that it probably should.

So we have Soresu Style: When hit by an attack from a nonadjacent enemy, this character takes no damage with a save of 11.

Then we have Soresu Style Mastery: When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11.

So clearly the idea was to build on preventing damage from shooters to add melee to the mix. I have tinkered with the piece, played about 5 or 6 games, and this is what I came up with.

General Obi-Wan Kenobi 55 pts.
120 HP
22 Defense
+14 Attack
20 Damage

Special Abilities
Unique. Melee Attack; Double Attack.
Soresu Style Mastery (When this character is hit by an attack from a nonadjacent enemy or by a melee attack, it takes no damage with a save of 11.)

Force Powers
Force 2. Force Renewal 1. Master of the Force 2
Knight Speed
Force Push 3

Commander Effect
Followers within six squares of at least one ally gain +4 attack and +4 defense.

What has typically happened is that SSM has become very much like Evade and Parry rolled into one. Shooters can base GOWK to defeat it. It also doesn't get auto-damage negation since Mettle is gone. Out of the handful of games I've played with it, GOWK was still a threat, but not to the point that the stuff I threw against it had to be designed to deal specifically with GOWK. All it took was swapping Rex adjacent, while blasting away multiple shots from range that eventually get through.

I like that solution Dennis.

this is where i will catch flak.
i say we just bring him back, period.
there is no sense in making a mini to then have him banned.
you make a house rule, or an actual rule:
if you are going to use a GOWK squad, you have to tell yer opponent before set up, so he can then build something to counter it.
i cant tell you how many times that little house rule has either made me, or broke me. if i use him, someone usually always counters him with mandalorians or a really good NR squad. lets face it, he cant make every Soresu save, and he can only spend so many FPs to make the saves. a smart player can shoot at GOWK all day, and eventually deplete his FPs to the point where if he doesnt make those saves, he will take alot of damage. thats why i still love my GOWK, because if he isnt completely "Broken", there are ways to get rid of him.
GMLS comes to mind when facing GOWK. GOWK doesnt stand a chance against a based GMLS. sure, GMLS is pricey, but to me, hes just as "Broken" as GOWK, the only differance is point cost.