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Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 179 Location: Chicago
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For me it's simple. Bloo Milk does what I need. I can enter my collection and build squads, which is great, but the major kicker is that Bloo Milk can match your wants with everyone else's trades. That's huge to me. I can "one stop shop" here so I don't have to use another site. Beyond that I've seen and heard things said from Gamers folks that I don't like. I won't elaborate because none of us needs the drama.
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Joined: 1/5/2009 Posts: 2,240 Location: Akron Ohio, just south of dantooine.
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bkchi wrote:For me it's simple. Bloo Milk does what I need. I can enter my collection and build squads, which is great, but the major kicker is that Bloo Milk can match your wants with everyone else's trades. That's huge to me. I can "one stop shop" here so I don't have to use another site. Beyond that I've seen and heard things said from Gamers folks that I don't like. I won't elaborate because none of us needs the drama. I would also add: I've seen things from BlooMilk folks that I don't like.
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Joined: 4/3/2008 Posts: 584 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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bkchi wrote:For me it's simple. Bloo Milk does what I need. I can enter my collection and build squads, which is great, but the major kicker is that Bloo Milk can match your wants with everyone else's trades. That's huge to me. I can "one stop shop" here so I don't have to use another site. Beyond that I've seen and heard things said from Gamers folks that I don't like. I won't elaborate because none of us needs the drama. Here's a thought for you, and anybody who approaches the situation like you do. Say for instance that you really like cheeseburgers. In your life, you've tried all sorts of different places. But there's this one place, Burger King, that you've NEVER tried before. You have absolutely no idea what their cheeseburgers taste like. Some people say to you "Oh man, their cheeseburgers are great, you should try one sometime" but other people say "Man, those people at Burger King suck and the cheeseburgers they make are gross". Well, you consider yourself a connoisseur of cheeseburgers, so what would you do? Would you just take what people have said, or would you go sometime and try out those cheeseburgers for yourself? I know it's a stupid example, but that's what this is like. We will only be a strong community when we are ONE community. The SWMGamers website lobbied for Shinja to just add host his collection tracker and squad builder at SWMGamers when he was first working on it, but he decided to build his own site instead, and that's cool. But ultimately, we are still one big cheeseburger (SWM) loving group, and it's in the best interest for everyone, if we all band together and cook the best cheeseburgers we possibly can. This can't be accomplished if the cooks at McDonald's are sitting in their kitchen with their recipes, and the cooks at Burger King are sitting in theirs, and neither is sharing. The problem at this point, is that the Burger King guys WANT to be one big community, but many times the McDonald's guys act like they don't want anybody else in their kitchen. Now, that analogy applies to people on BOTH forums. We all have those stupid attitudes sometimes of one site being better than the other and stuff. One is NOT better than the other....they are just DIFFERENT. I urge all of you to at least sign up on Gamers if you haven't before. Hit the 'View New Posts' button once in a while. If you don't see anything you like, then don't post anything. Nothing wrong with that. But then you'll at least know what's going on over there as well. And when things come up, you can make informed posts about both sites, rather than being in the dark.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 179 Location: Chicago
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I've had their cheeseburgers. I like these better. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Joined: 3/4/2009 Posts: 518 Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
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LoboStele wrote:
Here's a thought for you, and anybody who approaches the situation like you do.
Say for instance that you really like cheeseburgers. In your life, you've tried all sorts of different places. But there's this one place, Burger King, that you've NEVER tried before. You have absolutely no idea what their cheeseburgers taste like. Some people say to you "Oh man, their cheeseburgers are great, you should try one sometime" but other people say "Man, those people at Burger King suck and the cheeseburgers they make are gross". Well, you consider yourself a connoisseur of cheeseburgers, so what would you do? Would you just take what people have said, or would you go sometime and try out those cheeseburgers for yourself?
I know it's a stupid example, but that's what this is like. We will only be a strong community when we are ONE community. The SWMGamers website lobbied for Shinja to just add host his collection tracker and squad builder at SWMGamers when he was first working on it, but he decided to build his own site instead, and that's cool. But ultimately, we are still one big cheeseburger (SWM) loving group, and it's in the best interest for everyone, if we all band together and cook the best cheeseburgers we possibly can. This can't be accomplished if the cooks at McDonald's are sitting in their kitchen with their recipes, and the cooks at Burger King are sitting in theirs, and neither is sharing. The problem at this point, is that the Burger King guys WANT to be one big community, but many times the McDonald's guys act like they don't want anybody else in their kitchen.
Now, that analogy applies to people on BOTH forums. We all have those stupid attitudes sometimes of one site being better than the other and stuff. One is NOT better than the other....they are just DIFFERENT. I urge all of you to at least sign up on Gamers if you haven't before. Hit the 'View New Posts' button once in a while. If you don't see anything you like, then don't post anything. Nothing wrong with that. But then you'll at least know what's going on over there as well. And when things come up, you can make informed posts about both sites, rather than being in the dark.
YES! What he said
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 6/25/2009 Posts: 75 Location: Kearney Nebraska
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The state of SWM online community is we have a site that is keeping SWM competitive format rolling and making a new Quality v-set ,and another site has of the best online tools the mouse over stats and squad builder that doesn't have the v-set. That is the problem right BM wants to have the v-set on the squad builder with the stats? So if that is the issue then I ask what is the problem. Dean can't trust peeps from BM to do something stupid and get Lucas after him? Dean want the traffic? To fix the rift we need to know what is causing this site to not get the v-set. Please tell me either through BM or post. I have listened to the pod cast with Shinga and Dean and it was encouraging. I really feel sorry for Sithborg he stick of for BM on gamers and Gamers on BM. Try with your post to fix the problems not call names and tell the truth even if it hurts. So my 1 question is.
1: What exactly is the truthful reason or reasons why BM doesn't have the V-set stats on the squad builder?
I think if we can resolve that then this can finally be put to a rest.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 7/21/2009 Posts: 207 Location: Southern California
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bkchi wrote:I've had their cheeseburgers. I like these better. There's nothing wrong with that. I can also see all the cheesburgers that they offer here. There's not a cool secret menu that not everyone can see.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 179 Location: Chicago
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IronLung wrote:1: What exactly is the truthful reason or reasons why BM doesn't have the V-set stats on the squad builder? Dean, the Gamers and V-set boss, wants to be able to pull the V-set stats off Bloo Milk in a moment if legal trouble should arise. He wants a single point of contact over here that he can e-mail or call to remove all V-set references at a moment's notice, a sort of super-mod. Thus far this hasn't been implemented over here.
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On the pod cast shinga said that he was the only one that could do that and would do that.
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LoboStele wrote:bkchi wrote:For me it's simple. Bloo Milk does what I need. I can enter my collection and build squads, which is great, but the major kicker is that Bloo Milk can match your wants with everyone else's trades. That's huge to me. I can "one stop shop" here so I don't have to use another site. Beyond that I've seen and heard things said from Gamers folks that I don't like. I won't elaborate because none of us needs the drama. Here's a thought for you, and anybody who approaches the situation like you do. Say for instance that you really like cheeseburgers. In your life, you've tried all sorts of different places. But there's this one place, Burger King, that you've NEVER tried before. You have absolutely no idea what their cheeseburgers taste like. Some people say to you "Oh man, their cheeseburgers are great, you should try one sometime" but other people say "Man, those people at Burger King suck and the cheeseburgers they make are gross". Well, you consider yourself a connoisseur of cheeseburgers, so what would you do? Would you just take what people have said, or would you go sometime and try out those cheeseburgers for yourself? I know it's a stupid example, but that's what this is like. We will only be a strong community when we are ONE community. The SWMGamers website lobbied for Shinja to just add host his collection tracker and squad builder at SWMGamers when he was first working on it, but he decided to build his own site instead, and that's cool. But ultimately, we are still one big cheeseburger (SWM) loving group, and it's in the best interest for everyone, if we all band together and cook the best cheeseburgers we possibly can. This can't be accomplished if the cooks at McDonald's are sitting in their kitchen with their recipes, and the cooks at Burger King are sitting in theirs, and neither is sharing. The problem at this point, is that the Burger King guys WANT to be one big community, but many times the McDonald's guys act like they don't want anybody else in their kitchen. Now, that analogy applies to people on BOTH forums. We all have those stupid attitudes sometimes of one site being better than the other and stuff. One is NOT better than the other....they are just DIFFERENT. I urge all of you to at least sign up on Gamers if you haven't before. Hit the 'View New Posts' button once in a while. If you don't see anything you like, then don't post anything. Nothing wrong with that. But then you'll at least know what's going on over there as well. And when things come up, you can make informed posts about both sites, rather than being in the dark. The only issue with this, is that now I really want a cheeseburger, but have no way of getting one asap. I also have no problem using multiple SWM websites.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
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crazybirdman wrote:bkchi wrote:I've had their cheeseburgers. I like these better. There's nothing wrong with that. I can also see all the cheesburgers that they offer here. There's not a cool secret menu that not everyone can see. Of course there is. I'm sure I'm not the only one who occasionally sees links to a "Moderator" board in the recent posts section that regular members aren't allowed to access.
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Joined: 2/27/2009 Posts: 205 Location: Southern Illinois
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crazybirdman wrote: I can also see all the cheesburgers that they offer here. There's not a cool secret menu that not everyone can see.
No, you cant, and yes, there is. @ Iron Lung. While I havent listened to the podcast that your talking about, but since nothing seems to have changed, then its probably got to do with Shinja being apparently notoriously hard to get ahold of at times, and that is the issue Dean has, or did have. I dont know the current state of the situation, or claim to, and Im not passing judgement on either involved party, just trying to fill in some blanks.
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bkchi wrote:I've had their cheeseburgers. I like these better. There's nothing wrong with that. I've seen there cheeseburgers too and went "OMG" at some of their menu offerings.....but i still go back to see whats current.....
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From my perspective (and I'm not sure how many other community members may feel like I do), I don't feel like there is a 'state of our community' as much as a 'state of our communities.'
I think that until the very palpable and uncomfortable rift is resolved in a mature and genuine manner, the sense of that schism will hang heavy on the community's shoulders.
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I've seen their cheeseburgers. They're fine. They just have a few on the wait staff that need to be fired before the resturant gets good reviews. Although, there's a few more on the staff that are truely good people.
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Joined: 2/26/2009 Posts: 1,382 Location: Detroit, Mi
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As one who respects very much what Guys Like DNE Miller and Billiv do, And As a regular listener to their excellent podcast as well as a supporter of the Vsets, I hate to say it but one cannot deny that they try and get their digs in on Bloomilk every chance they get. One only has to download the last few podcasts of SHNews to see this. As brought out, the Majority of those on Bloomilk support the game and Gamers. Its going to take attitude changes from both sites. there are bad seeds I'm sure on Both, not just one site, looking to sow discontent, and for the life of me I cannot understand why, especially considering that the game does seem to be on shaky ground. Let's face it , people these days have so many things that they could occupy their time with. Lets face it, The old addage is true, "A house divided cannot stand. "Petty fights have always been a part of this community, and thats fine, but if a giant rift continues to happen, Nothing good will come of it.
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Disturbed1 wrote:
@ Iron Lung. While I havent listened to the podcast that your talking about, but since nothing seems to have changed, then its probably got to do with Shinja being apparently notoriously hard to get ahold of at times, and that is the issue Dean has, or did have.
Nailed it. Dean made one simple request, that has yet to have been addressed in a communicative answer to Dean.
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Joined: 7/7/2008 Posts: 33 Location: Dayton, Ohio (USA)
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bkchi wrote:Dean, the Gamers and V-set boss, wants to be able to pull the V-set stats off Bloo Milk in a moment if legal trouble should arise. He wants a single point of contact over here that he can e-mail or call to remove all V-set references at a moment's notice, a sort of super-mod. Thus far this hasn't been implemented over here.
If I owned/managed a SWM website I don't think I would ever consider giving anyone that kind of control over my site. I would probably ignore any request like that to. I don't have any problem getting in touch with Shinja, to the contrary, but when I try to PM Dean through his own website I usually get ignored. I wouldn't be surprised if Shinja is doing the same thing to Dean. If anything Shinja is handling this better than I would. If it were my site I would just post the stats anyway. Ultimately if the whole V-Set thing is skating on thin ice with LFL then it probably shouldn't be done anyway. Trying to control how and where the stats are posted won't do any good if Uncle George comes knocking. Being upfront with the stats and allowing them to be posted anywhere will probably serve the V-Set better than trying to keep it under tight wraps. Primarily keeping the stats on one website (minus a few previews) makes it seem as if you are trying to conceal something, that will raise more red flags than just putting it out there. Let's face it, the stats are going to end up being copied and pasted all over the place anyhow. I also think it's a very bad idea to print stat cards and sell them to people at cost. Not sure if that idea is still in the works, but that is a major risk that may ultimately lead to the demise of the V-Set.
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stsparks72 wrote: Ultimately if the whole V-Set thing is skating on thin ice with LFL then it probably shouldn't be done anyway.
I concur stsparks72 wrote: I also think it's a very bad idea to print stat cards and sell them to people at cost.
I only sort of concur, in my dealing with Lucasfilm, they are usually okay with stuff if you aren't making a profit.
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Joined: 4/2/2008 Posts: 538 Location: GC, Missouri
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stsparks72 wrote:bkchi wrote:Dean, the Gamers and V-set boss, wants to be able to pull the V-set stats off Bloo Milk in a moment if legal trouble should arise. He wants a single point of contact over here that he can e-mail or call to remove all V-set references at a moment's notice, a sort of super-mod. Thus far this hasn't been implemented over here.
If I owned/managed a SWM website I don't think I would ever consider giving anyone that kind of control over my site. I would probably ignore any request like that to. I don't have any problem getting in touch with Shinja, to the contrary, but when I try to PM Dean through his own website I usually get ignored. I wouldn't be surprised if Shinja is doing the same thing to Dean. If anything Shinja is handling this better than I would. If it were my site I would just post the stats anyway. Ultimately if the whole V-Set thing is skating on thin ice with LFL then it probably shouldn't be done anyway. Trying to control how and where the stats are posted won't do any good if Uncle George comes knocking. Being upfront with the stats and allowing them to be posted anywhere will probably serve the V-Set better than trying to keep it under tight wraps. Primarily keeping the stats on one website (minus a few previews) makes it seem as if you are trying to conceal something, that will raise more red flags than just putting it out there. Let's face it, the stats are going to end up being copied and pasted all over the place anyhow. I also think it's a very bad idea to print stat cards and sell them to people at cost. Not sure if that idea is still in the works, but that is a major risk that may ultimately lead to the demise of the V-Set. I have stayed out of all the stupid stuff you have posted lately but I would appreciate it if you would not use my name in your Carlos Spicyweiner fantasyland brain of yours. Please dont make the comment I wont respond to your pm's.... You have to pm me at least once in the past year to be able to comment on whether I would answer you or not. When you send a pm to the admin group and one of them answers you then you got your answer and dont need me saying the same thing a second time. I have stayed out of crap on both gamers and bloo. I have figured if I said nothing maybe things would stay nice and calm. But I wont put up with you just making a statement like that. You get on here to play the bad guy because you just dont care anymore (I am sorry if I am misrepresenting what you previously stated), so why make accusations that are untrue? Anyways I will go back to being silent on the forums (and that is gamers too)
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