See the V-set preview links thread sticky'd in this forum.

The compiled stats list of what has been previewed/spoiled so far is at Gamers

http://www.swmgamers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=9569

How do you figure?

I didn't dismiss the set. I didn't dispute the time that people have put into it. I didn't say anything positive or negative about it. All I said was that I don't consider it official. People make custom stats all the time. They may be great, they may be horrible, or somewhere in between, but I don't consider those official either. Someone said that there is a way to enter custom pieces into the mini manager. This would be an excellent use of it.

The V-set is not official and should not be called official, it is a 'V-set'. The makers know it, all they are doing is giving us and themselves the option of keeping the game going.

In thier case its with competitive games, with us its giving people the best looking custom cards you can get i.e. CARDS that wont look too out of place with the real deal.

There is nothing to stop other people making custom or 'V-set' sets with quality cards if they can find some way of funding.

If they wanted them to be concidered a competitive 'v-set', the people that run the competitive tournements have to say 'yes'.

Seems fair to me!

So what we need now is some one to make a V-set squad builder.
Shinja may be the man to ask.

Something like that. If someone were to pick up the license and continue the game I'd continue to update the MM. The sad reality is, however, that if someone were to make a Star Wars miniatures game it would probably be a new game rather than the one we play. The current version of the Mini Manager is probably going to be the last. Time will tell.

Keep in mind, the main purpose of the Mini Manager is to track your collection. The virtual set(s) are just that, virtual. There are no pieces to track. Like some have said, putting the new stats in the custom area of the program is a good fit for it.

You're free to disagree, and you're welcome to spearhead the effort to load these stats into the custom area of the software.

[mod edit: removed potentially inflammatory comment]

There's been plenty of conversation in the mod forums about the new CoC addition on discussion of other sites and projects. This thread happens to get to be one of the first to really fit that category. The fact that it touches on two different projects makes it doubly so.

We don't think that the policy should stifle discussion of policy, design, or other choices made by the people running a project or site. But we also recognize that there's a fine line between discussing a policy and needlessly harping on a particular policy choice, especially when there are ways to work around that policy. We also won't tolerate making blatant or veiled personal attacks against the people who make those decisions.

This is also a case of people disagreeing on the definitions to the words they're using. Miniature Manager contains stats of commercially released figures, made by WotC. bkchi calls these figures 'official'.

The guys who are doing the SWM V-Set are also the guys who are working on a continuation of the now defunct DCI organized play. Their intent is to have their V-Set being a part of their organized play program. So they see those figures as 'official'.

So it's only an understandable difference in what each party sees as 'official'.

Whether or not Miniature Manager will contain organized play figures is a conversation best held between those parties in private.

If you want to voice support for someone making a particular choice, that's great, but they don't need to be repeatedly questioned about why they made a particular decision.

I know that as a mod, in a discussion like this, I am much more likely to go after posts that stir the pot without contributing or repeatedly ask a question that has already been answered.

For future reference, this is a really good example of stirring the pot without contributing...


And this is an example of asking a question that has already been answered...

Still confused. Will Bloomilk ever put up the V-set for squad building or not? Does anyone know for sure?

I would say patience is in order.

Ok, since I was the one asking for it's removal back during the Dark Times, I am glad to make the following post.

The issues involved have been covered - thanks to incredible work by Shinja and the mod team here on bloomilk as of late - tough job, we all know and just wanted to add my heartfelt thanks for your work.

With that said,
Bloomilk will be releasing the full set of DotF on release day :) Three cheers for everyone involved in making it happen!