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FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:46:21 AM
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Jester007 wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
I would think it would be in the glossary.


That's just it though. It's a brand new ability and is not in the Glossary right now.


Right - I meant the glossary update that will come out with DotF.
Jester007
Posted: Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:56:01 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Right - I meant the glossary update that will come out with DotF.


Gotch ya. Smile

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The Celestial Warrior
Posted: Thursday, December 2, 2010 12:35:16 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:


Without a glossary or FAQ clarifying those points to what seems to be the natural interpretation, the rules would appear to say that Twin Blaster
(a) is a melee attack from a distance, and
(b) would stack with the Czerka.


If it counts as a melee attack then b DEFINATELY does not apply. Blaster Upgrade specifically mentions non-melee attacks.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, December 2, 2010 1:46:05 PM
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:


Without a glossary or FAQ clarifying those points to what seems to be the natural interpretation, the rules would appear to say that Twin Blaster
(a) is a melee attack from a distance, and
(b) would stack with the Czerka.


If it counts as a melee attack then b DEFINATELY does not apply. Blaster Upgrade specifically mentions non-melee attacks.


I meant it would stack with Twin Attack. I guess maybe with Whorm in booster leagues? Because you're right - if it's a melee attack the Czerka wouldn't come into play.
sharron
Posted: Thursday, December 2, 2010 6:12:04 PM
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okay, but, if the twin blaster does work with czerka... im fairly certain for 35 points anyone will take +12 for 20 4 times against unactivated, then add dash, doing the same vs activated... this not v bad at all for 63 pts...!

edit: dash is +10 for 20 sorry... :S
LoboStele
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 12:07:39 AM
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I'm fairly certain that the intention is that it does NOT work with the Czerka, though we can double-check with the designers and make sure that the clarification is included on the Rules Insert. Even so though, Captain Rex is 33 points and can shoot 4 times at a +12, AND he has Greater Mobile to boot. So, even with a Ben/Czerka combo, it wouldn't be any more brutal than Rex, IMO.
Echo24
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 1:03:16 AM
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In the chat during the SHNN last night, the question was asked if the Czerka and Ben interacted. Bill confirmed that they do not. I'm assuming this will be further clarified in the rules insert.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 1:17:37 AM
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Echo24 wrote:
In the chat during the SHNN last night, the question was asked if the Czerka and Ben interacted. Bill confirmed that they do not. I'm assuming this will be further clarified in the rules insert.


I think we all expected that. Thanks for the confirmation.
Jonnyb815
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 3:12:25 AM
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There does not have to be a FAQ for it. Czerka in the Glossary says it has to be the printed cost. So Twin Blaster WILL NOT STACK WITH THE OTHER SA.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 3:30:20 AM
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
There does not have to be a FAQ for it. Czerka in the Glossary says it has to be the printed cost. So Twin Blaster WILL NOT STACK WITH THE OTHER SA.


The printed damage statistic for that attack is 10. Also, there's another way to gain Twin Attack (and there may be others in the future), so it should still be clarified that Twin Attack and Twin Blaster do not stack. And it sounds like it will be.

And seeing as this is already a frequently asked question right off the bat, it should be in the FAQ if it's not in the glossary just so it's easy to answer when others ask.
LoboStele
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 3:33:15 AM
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Well, the nice thing is, the Glossary/Rules Insert is sort of a living thing right now, planned to be finished and posted on the 15th. So, plenty of time to edit it still. :)
kothandki
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 7:02:38 AM
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Sweet! It would have liked to see rapport with GMLS, but it's still a good piece.
CerousMutor
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 8:37:03 AM
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WooHoo

Ben Skywalker, more custom!
Dimetrodon
Posted: Friday, December 3, 2010 3:01:12 PM
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kothandki wrote:
Sweet! It would have liked to see rapport with GMLS, but it's still a good piece.


GMLS cost 50 less points while in a squad with this character

haha
saber1
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 4:08:27 AM
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Thank you for posting. This is my favorite piece of the set.
obsidian7788
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 8:47:03 AM
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Dimetrodon wrote:
kothandki wrote:
Sweet! It would have liked to see rapport with GMLS, but it's still a good piece.


GMLS cost 50 less points while in a squad with this character

haha
gotta make it so they're a dynamic duo
Jonnyb815
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 3:32:17 PM
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what other way can you get twin in the NR? The print damage on ben is 20. Just because the SA says 10 damage does not mean its the print damage.The print damage is only whats on the left hand side. I dont have a problem adding it to the FAQ.
Sithborg
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 4:21:19 PM
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
what other way can you get twin in the NR? The print damage on ben is 20. Just because the SA says 10 damage does not mean its the print damage.The print damage is only whats on the left hand side. I dont have a problem adding it to the FAQ.


Then why does it not work with Poisoned Blade. Poisoned Blade changes what is the base damage, just like this, since he isn't using what is printed on the card. You definately are not getting an extra 20 damage when he crits while shooting.

I have done the research, and going only by what is on the card, the Czerka should work. Now, it won't because the rules insert will state that it doesn't work with Twin. The Czerka causes plenty of problems, and not just with designing 10 Dam grunts. The wording on those abilities have caused plenty of unintended interactions, see Lightsaber Throw.
Jonnyb815
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 4:38:16 PM
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whatever I disagree without seeing the insert.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 11:38:25 PM
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
what other way can you get twin in the NR?


Not all games are constructed... Whorm during booster leagues/tournaments.

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