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No. While Mount works a lot like Desert Skiff, it is actually almost identical to Troop Cart. You count distance from Thon, not distance from Thon +1 like Desert Skiff.
So, a character being carried by Mount would be able to attack and be attacked by adjacent enemies.
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Sweet! That's a big help offensively.
From a defensive standpoint I assume that should mean that anyone riding Master Thon would then become a legal target to an enemy adjacent to Master Thon; i.e. that adjacent enemy could choose to attack Master Thon or whoever is riding, correct?
And then what about non-adjacent enemies? Do they still need accurate shot to target whoever is riding Thon or do they get to choose automatically?
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The passenger is going to have cover, so it will depend on if someone is closer or not.
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Sithborg wrote:The passenger is going to have cover, so it will depend on if someone is closer or not. Gotcha. And how about adjacent enemies? Does the attacker choose between Master Thon and the passenger seeing as both would be considered adjacent?
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They would be able to choose, as adjacent characters never have cover.
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Just to clarify, does Intuition work the same way w/ Mount as it does w/ Desert Skiff? Can you use Intuition after initiative is determined to either move up to 6 squares and "mount" Master Thon or dismount Master Thon and move up to 6 spaces?
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Sithborg wrote:They would be able to choose, as adjacent characters never have cover. If an enemy has melee reach but is not adjacent, and Thon is not in cover, the passenger would not be able to be targeted as it would have cover. Is that correct?
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swinefeld wrote:Sithborg wrote:They would be able to choose, as adjacent characters never have cover. If an enemy has melee reach but is not adjacent, and Thon is not in cover, the passenger would not be able to be targeted as it would have cover. Is that correct? When you say the enemy w/ melee reach is "not adjacent" to Thon do you mean that there would still be one empty square between Thon and said melee reach enemy? If so my guess is that the passenger would be considered adjacent to the melee reach enemy during that enemies attack. My understanding is that a character w/ melee reach 2 is considered adjacent when attacking from 2 squares away however Thon and the passenger would not be considered adjacent from those same spaces during their turns.
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Galactic Funk wrote:swinefeld wrote:Sithborg wrote:They would be able to choose, as adjacent characters never have cover. If an enemy has melee reach but is not adjacent, and Thon is not in cover, the passenger would not be able to be targeted as it would have cover. Is that correct? When you say the enemy w/ melee reach is "not adjacent" to Thon do you mean that there would still be one empty square between Thon and said melee reach enemy? If so my guess is that the passenger would be considered adjacent to the melee reach enemy during that enemies attack. My understanding is that a character w/ melee reach 2 is considered adjacent when attacking from 2 squares away however Thon and the passenger would not be considered adjacent from those same spaces during their turns. Yes, I meant an empty square between the attacker and Thon/passenger. I think I was having a brain-fart over targeting and cover, which were issues pre-errata. Doh. Thanks
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Galactic Funk wrote:Thanks for the link to the Skiff Q&A. I think that clears up some other questions I had about Master Thon.
Just to make sure I am understanding correctly, if Master Kavar was on Master Thon, he could not use Sever Force during his turn because even if Master Thon was adjacent to an enemy, Master Kavar would have to count an additional square to it and not be considered adjacent to that same enemy, correct? Master Kavar can use Sever Force on someone next to Master Thon. The distance is counted from any squares Master Thon occupies. The Desert Skiff is the only transport where passengers are considered to be an additional square away from everyone else not onboard. Sincerely, Jester007
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