Yeah, I thought about mentioning that, but I have no idea what the rest of that squad would look like.

I don't know if this is worth its salt but there are easy ways to get 160 dmg a phase while activating 2 enemies.

Lobot can bring in 5 peace brigades.

What's great about the leader is that she grants spotter to allies. SO Dodonna, ackbar, and any other usually pathetic shooter can actually influence fights, you just have to make sure you bring a lot of guns.

--SPots--
27 Lobot
25 Admiral Ackbar, Supreme Commander
23 Crix Madine, SpecForce Commander
19 Princess Leia, Rebel Commando
18 Rebel Leader
45 SpecForce Infiltrator x3
15 SpecForce Technician
10 Squib Trader
9 General Dodonna
9 Ugnaught Demolitionist x3

(200pts. 14 activations)

Lord Scourge, from Armed and Operational





Are you feeling lucky, punk?

Scourge is an amazing tank buster - with Lightsaber Bravado and Overwhelming Force he can drop 160 unpreventable damage on a higher cost piece at +16 attack. But he's also scarily risky - according to FlyingArrow, if he uses his 2 force points on Lightsaber Bravado and Overwhelming Force, he has a whopping 60% probability of changing teams, even with a Sith Recruit to help him on rerolls, thank to Shifting Loyalities and Internal Strife. So basically, he's an extreme piece; he has amazing damage potential if you can pull the 160 damage off, but the probability of him defecting is extremely high. As far as 200 points competitive games go, I wouldn't touch this piece with a bargepole - even if the meta consisted almost entirely of Darth Zannah squads, he's still too luck reliant to be an efficient tournament option. Scourge might be more viable at 500 points Epic where larger targets are inevitable - it might even be worth using the Watto/Celeste/Malakili combo on him so that he can get Overwhelming Force from Malakili, and still have an extra force point for a rerolled save. But at 200, there are safer ways to get Overwhelming Force - try Luke Hero of Endor and Jon 'Dutch' Vander together in Rebels for instance. 3/10 (but much better at 500 points).

As one of the designers on vset 7 I can say that this piece was very hard to balance. We certainly wanted a more "fun" piece than top tier. Credit certainly goes to Brad for the initial concept and basic design, but then we all had a hand in trying to balance on a razor's edge with this piece. I am happy with how he turned out actually. (I might have given him a 4 or a 5). He is a character of extremes, and you certainly highlighted those extremes. But what I like about him is that you don't have to crank the dial all the way to 11 each time. Here's the breakdown that flyingarrow gave us:

2fprrs available, 1 pawn, normal Twin attack. Probability of turning: _7.7_ %
1fprr available, 1 pawn, Overwhelming Force (Twin attack). Probability of turning: _15.6_ %
1fprr available, 1 pawn, Lightsaber Bravado (4 attacks total, targeting twice). Probability of turning: _30.5_ %
0fprr available, 1 pawn, OF/LSB (4 attacks, targeting twice, unavoidable dmg). Probability of turning: _61.3_ %

So - as you can see - some are quite reasonable risks. Only the big mammajamma is the HUGE risk. And really - I'd only ever use that if my back was against the wall and I was desperate. You can get 80 unblockable damage to a higher cost character (100 with Bandon) at only a 15.6% risk. Now that seems reasonable. Unless you're facing some monster with 200 hps, that's probably all you need. In fact - you can probably go for the 160 damage (200 with Bandon) WITHOUT overwhelming force unless you're facing like a crab-armored Malgus or a dooku with makashi and MotF2. It's a very rare situation when you'll attempt the big strike WITH overwhelming force. Usually you won't need both, you just use one or the other.

If I were to run him in 200 (and I agree he is certainly not top tier, or really even close) I'd never use LS Bravado + overwhelming force unless it was my only chance to win. I'd probably use him with Brandon, Revan, Jaq, and a bunch of pawns. If I face a big baddie, I'd wait until I can shave them down to 100hps by using Jaq, then swap him in for the reasonably safe kill (15.6% chance of switching).

There's also times when you'd WANT him to switch. If he's already been beat on and he does his big thing maybe throwing down 80-100 damage on someone then switching. Then you could use your second action to kill HIM and put those 41 points in YOUR bank. Rare, but I've seen it happen. That same scenario with Ferus Olin helped me win a regional.

Outside of competitive play - he is just plain fun. At Frosty-Con SEVERAL people played him in King of the Ring. If I remember correctly 3 (out of 4) players on 1 board were playing him, and combined I think they swapped teams like 8 or 9 times. We all were laughing our heads off each time as they bounced around like a pinball machine.

I think in hindsight, I did oversimplify it a bit; you're right about only using one power at a time in most scenarios. I do think Ferus Olin with bodyguard is easier to manipulate into switching than Scourge though.

The other reason that he's not really a competitive piece at 200 points is that he's very situational - if you're not playing against any pieces that are more than 41 points, he's low powered for his cost. Much better in Epics, where you can guarantee that there's a big piece for him to chase.

General Grievous, from Clone Strike





We already covered the Commando Droid Captain, and it feels like this Grievous is jostling for playtime with it; they're very similar, both shooters with double attack and a very similar commander effect, although the Captain's is wider in scope. Given the similarities, it's really not worth paying an extra 20 points for Grievous' improved stat line and hit points - especially since he's a commander that you're going to build your squad around, he's not going to be in the front lines anyway. There are also other Grievous with extra attack CEs too, but it's the Commando Droid Captain that really makes this Grievous look so 2004. 1/10.

Nikto Pirate, from Destiny of the Force





These guys are overlooked - they've been used in three 200 point squads in Bloomilk at the time of writing. At 8 points, they're all offense and no defense - they have only 10 hit points and no defensive abilities whatsoever. But they have a base 6 attack, gregarious, plus access to Xizor's CE, they can hit high attack damage numbers easily, and as pirates they can also access Hondo Ohnaka's Accurate CE.

With their fragility, they're probably best suited to a Mon Mothma death shot squad with Hondo, Mon Mothma, a Czerka for twin, Yularen, Xizor, and Jabba Crime Lord - although by the time you get all that in, you don't really have enough Pirates to cause really good squads problems.

The Nikto Pirate is probably not a tournament level piece - most 8 point pieces have some form of defense, even if it's just an extra 10 hit points. But they probably don't deserve to be as overlooked as they have been either. 5/10.

He's talking about choosing not to do the second set of twin attacks. You are correct in that the twin is not optional. It also doesn't target. So when you double twin, you also target twice (once for each regular attack, not for the twins). So with Scourge, you make the save with each time you TARGET.

Just read LS Bravado.

Valenthyne Farfalla, from Armed and Operational





Valenthyne Farfalla isn't game breaking but he's awesome - he does a number of things for the Old Republic:
- since he's effectively 25 points, he's a tank for his cost with 110 hit points, Force Bubble, and Makashi Style Mastery.
- he provides reinforcements, and pimps them up with a force point and Army of Light
- he hands out Prideful to Army of Light pieces, notably his own reinforcements and Lord Hoth, who starts to look very nasty with Prideful and Impulsive Twin.

A build based around Valenthyne could look something like this:



It's not the most mobile build, but with 40 points of reinforcements, it's very flexible, and you get Bastila turning off CEs, a nasty top of the round shooter in Carth Onasi, and two reasonably tough beatsticks in Lord Hoth and Valenthyne. Valenthyne is a really strong piece and a really nice design, who opens up some new builds for the Old Republic with his Prideful and his Reinforcements, 9/10.