The viscous circle, he needs a more definitive version so we get another; which takes up a more worthy slot for someone else.

Seriously, Coleman Trebor? The jedi who went out like a punk deserves a better version? Really?

He is a cheap, fast, and annoying harrassement figure. Move 12, attack some one for +12 for 30. Heck, throw General Skywalker for another +4 Atk and +10 Dam. And his 60 HPs makes it so you have to actually direct major damage towards him.

So he can get momentum, mobile attack, lightsaber defense, pseudo twin, +3 +3 among other things.

He is a great swap piece, cheap with a decent amount of HP and is really fast.

I see a lot of potential uses for the fig, in a lot of squads. Far more than if he was costed 25+ where he would need to compete with Rex and Dash and the like for places.

Cost is arbitrary in this game. I've never really understood the idea of having to make a piece really expensive in order to "do justice" to the character. For me, its all about the utility of the piece. For his cost this piece screams versatility.

When republic space has been taken up by Mace, GOWK, Anakin, REX, Dash and yobuck it would be nice to see another jedi in there but with anymore of an increase in cost he would become cost prohibitive and just another jedi left on the shelf.

...No offense, but you saying that tells me that the team dosen't care at all about making a good character representation. He was an accomplished Jedi, with a fair amount of EU content.

"Cost is arbitrary in this game. I've never really understood the idea of having to make a piece really expensive in order to "do justice" to the character. For me, its all about the utility of the piece. For his cost this piece screams versatility"

It's about representing the character. The only reason high cost comes into play is because more SAs mean higher cost. He was a lot more than Bravado, Force 2 and Master Speed. I was hopeful about getting a version of him that represents the character, but Sitborg and Echo's comments make me sure that will not happen.

Not sure what exactly you were looking for, but he compares quite well to quite a few of WOTC Jedi (even masters). Very similar stats to Nahdar Vebb, Jax Pavin, Stass Allie, Obi Padawan, etc.

Unfortunately when a piece is designed it can't take every aspect of a character's life into account. Otherwise we wouldn't have 10+ Luke/Vader/etc. For me (who didn't know who he was until I looked him up) who sees him as that Jedi that ran up to Dooku and then got killed, he is represented perfectly. Master speed (he got there fast), Bravado (he was willing to take on the better swordsman Dooku) and lack of Defensive abilities (he got shot down by Jango).

I didn't say "a lot". But there's clearly more to his character then his cameo in Episode 2.

You have to understand, the designers aren't experts or scholars of the EU. We each have our preferences and knowledge. I personally am annoyed by Travis Mando love, and would personally love to make the CW New Mandos. A lot of designers would... disagree. For a lot of us, we didn't need much research into him, since the movie provided all we needed to know about the character. And that happens a lot with the movie character.

The disappointment is obviously down to expectation compared to design intent.

If you look through WotC history, characters are designed with a particular scene or timeline of character in mind.

Han in Stormie armor is a good example, its clearly the Han who runs into the stormies, and shoots as many as he can, he also has stealth as he was secretive when moving around the deathstar. (Ignore the fact that when he did that he wasn't actually wearing the armor).
Compare him to the Han Scoundrel which is the Han just a few scenes later, totally different character but the same person.

Unfortunately for your vision of Coleman, this representation of Coleman trebor was taken from Geonosis where he showed a lot of balls (Bravado) and quickness (MS) to get to Jango and Dooko only to get shot down before doing anything (double attack from a jedi hunter).
It just so happens that this representation actually makes a pretty useful piece being cheap (because he doesn't have a lot of SAs), fast and he can put a hit on someone better than him.
Its not a representation of Coleman Trebor in its entirety, but a piece designed from that scene. If it was called Coleman Trebor Jedi master, i think we would have to do it more justice to the entire character but its not. Its just him, running fast and trying to be helpful. Hopefully in the game he will be more useful to the cause than he was in that scene but there is no denying that is the source of the design.

It might be worthwhile turning it around in a hypothetical manner to understand some of the design intent and character selection.
"We want a cheap jedi, who's fast to serve as a swapper and that can put a hit down because we think it would work well in the republic but we want it to be unique so that it doesn't get spammed. Who would be a good candidate for that?"

Han Solo in Stormtrooper Armor is a poor example. He is clearly based on a specific scene. This isn't "Coleman Trebor Getting Shot".


"It might be worthwhile turning it around in a hypothetical manner to understand some of the design intent and character selection.
"We want a cheap jedi, who's fast to serve as a swapper and that can put a hit down because we think it would work well in the republic but we want it to be unique so that it doesn't get spammed. Who would be a good candidate for that?"

This is an interesting argument, with merit. But it dosen't actually have to do with what I was saying. I couldn't care less that THIS version of Coleman is based on one scene. I absolutely want the possibility of a stronger version in the future that fits the character overall. Comments from two designers have shown that they think it's ridiculous. (Echo, no offense intended, honestly, but when you compare the possibility of a stronger Coleman to that of a 55-point R2 I know what you mean, and it's not that more points don't equal good representation).