Okay, good......and I know you were just having fun with the boba doesn't matter thing, that's why I didn't stick my nose in it......I myself am a huge boba fett fanboy but I understand that some people don't appreciate him much, same as I don't appreciate darth maul

In related conversation, I actually don't mind too much about Lucas's input......yes he made the movies, but that does include the phantom menace......haha

I actually prefer the books to the movies, than the comics......and in my opinion video games should be taken with a grain of salt......I can't believe that the campaign in battlefront 2 is considered cannon, for instance, or all the stuff in galaxies

The nice thing about star wars when compared to the lord of the rings or even star trek is that it is so vast that everyone can choose what they do and don't like.....I can't think of any other fanon that has so much to offer

Lucas really wrecked Boba Fett. The Fett described in the "Tales of..." stories was a vastly more interesting character than the kid clone of some guy we're supposed to care about but we can't because he just isn't interesting. Not knowing who Boba Fett was made him an intriguing character; he was literally the man without a face. Except now we know exactly who he was, and he has the same face as the Australian guy who evidently made all the stormtroopers, or something.

The problem is we already have a good Boba Fett (Mercenary), a Mando Boba Fett (Mercenary Commander), and three gimmick Boba Fetts (Bounty Hunter with Disruption and Enforcer with net gun AND the kid). And just the bad really old Boba Fett. That's a lot of Fetts. They cover pretty much every aspect of his character. What direction should a new one go in that stays good and interesting without obsoleting any of the current ones?

I think it would be fun to have some kind of "Boba Fett, Relentless Hunter" piece who picks a "target" from the unique pieces on your opponent's squad. Boba needs to kill that piece from an adjacent square to "collect the bounty." If he does so, good things happen (bonuses to Fett, victory points, etc.). If you don't kill the target, or kill him/her with a different piece, Boba "voids the contract" (counts as defeated). So you get a good character at a discount, but he dies every game unless you take out the one specific piece the one specific way.

Of course I like the CCG, so I always want to make the game more complicated.

Of course you would know that Sashlon :p

When did you guys sell New Zealand?

Going to open up by saying, I too want to have fun arguing about Boba



Are you serious? I realize you are intentionally excluding all of Fetts EU appearances here, but that is ridiculous, since you seem to be a pretty big fan of the EU otherwise(from what I recall reading the forums for years now). If we are going to be fair here why are you choosing not to recognize anything Fett has done outside of the movies? Especially while mentioning a character from a TV show...

Yes lets all be fair...

I am going to cut and paste what Echo said as well, because I fully agree.


anyway...



Over representing a minor character? How about the fact that we have plenty of your so called over representation with Kyle Katarn, Dooku, and 2 Mauls, 2 Maces? Hell even Wege's Snowspeeder...

I don't see how you can hate on Boba Fett as well as complain that we want a new one, and go on to say he is a Minor character, and further imply that he is not needed, while we have some of the junk and/or filler in game as is. And I am talking about the V-Sets here.

General Weir? Master Kavar? Dutch? The A series assasin droid from a few pages of the Jabiim story arc in republic comics? seriously now, I'd gladly trade any of those for a New Boba Fett. That is not to say I don't want them either. I like getting new characters too and I'm not trying to hurt the V-Sets here, I just don't want to see some of the big one's ignored is all.

It's been years since we got a Boba Fett, but something like Mace was also in the very last set just over a year ago. and we already have more?

I do want to point out a difference between minor, and memorable. I will hand it to the design team for giving us some great memorable and relevant small role characters. But I also stand by confused as to why we ever got something like Bardan Jusik before a more important character like say... a Daala or Isard of any variety. characters who are much more important in the long run.



You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter is Boba never died, and the canon EU is set in stone as legitimate. You can pick and choose what you wish to believe out of any of it, but the bottom line is you are as Echo already said, being "Willfully Ignorant" in how you present this to all to us.

Oh and what Jedi did I see Cad Bane defeat personally? was it the one he had tortured in a machine by asking droids flip switches? Was it the one already a corpse in the room with him and the clawdite? or was it.. umm.. are there any others? I guess we never saw him personally kill a Jedi, please correct me if I am wrong

Also as far as the Star Wars canon goes, you are wrong with the ordering.

Movies and TV might be the most important, but the Movies are on their own level and above all else.
Games are third place, correct, but they are evenly tied with books and comics.
the Marvel comics are sort of jsut there to be used as needed, basically sever retcons if need be
and then there are infinities, the only thing not canon in the slightest bit with the SW Universe.

This all comes from Lucasfilm, you can look canon laws here if you like.



yeah, mace did real well without his lightsaber...




quoted for years worth of irony

Just wanted to emphasize that games are on the same level as books and comics, but not in the same way. Powers/stats may be different. It's just the stories that are canon. For instance, Galen Marek may not have been as powerful as portrayed in the games.

Integrated HUD is awesome, that fits perfectly!

I like your idea for the extra victory points, heh, would really Bork mouse walls when you get double points for them, but it'd be an ability that really only applies to tourneys and wouldnt affect most casual games.....which would make him hard to cost

That'd be cool but I think expensive considering how pricey anistap is

"boba and jango are nothing without their toys."


Sure I'll grant you that. Obi-wan looked like a loon without his lightsaber and any Jedi (save yoda) I've seen without one can't seem to fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Jango I recall being able to overpower Jedi without his toys and by just using his bare hands. Jedi are much much worse without their sabers then the fetts are without their guns.

This seems to be becoming a "barbecue Bill" party, but since he claims to enjoy it, here goes nothing...

Why on earth would you decide to pick that and stick with it? You can't just say "Well Lucas intended..." Since when does that make a difference? The majority of the cool characters were not of Lucas' doing. Heck, he took Aayla Secura and Quinlan Vos from the comics and put them into his movies because the writers came up with cool characters that the fans liked. Even Lucas isn't sure what he wants, because he keeps changing his own movies every couple of years. At any rate, comic-canon is higher up on the ladder than Bill-canon. You can decide for yourself that Boba died there, but don't let that affect how you design Boba. Personally, I utterly reject the Emperor Reborn from canon (naked Palps fresh out of the cloning chamber dueling Luke seems very unappealing) but I won't get in the way of someone who wants a V-set mini of him.

I think a lot of the lack of coolness of characters in the movies is due to the limitations (both in the 70's and the 2000's) of real-life acting. Take the Star Wars: The Old Republic trailers. That's how I imagine Star Wars to be in the "actual universe." It doesn't bug me one bit that Lucas didn't decide to give Boba 5 minutes of glory in one of the movies. Cad Bane is shown to be so competent because he isn't restrained by real-life acting (computer generation, like the SWTOR trailers) and he has the room to do what he wants (long-term TV series as opposed to two movies). And if you appeal to the TV show to show how good Cad Bane is, then you can't object to my pointing out that the Clone Wars depicts Boba taking down an entire Republic Star Destroyer when he's 13.


20 + 20 + 60 (crit) + 20 (flurry) = 120 damage, which is how much HP both renditions of Jango have. Mace just won initiative, that's all. Although I don't think Mace is overpowered, that doesn't mean that its impossible to make a lame new Jango.

Boba and Jango were both pretty darn good at hand-to-hand combat (he got the better of Obi-Wan, that's for sure).

It may not be the community as a whole, but I'm pretty sure 90% would have no problem with a new Boba, especially since it'll be the V-set designers who know how to make a piece powerful yet balanced. This is a good summary of what the V-set designers do, but I don't think having an opinion constitutes thinking he is the center of the universe. Couldn't the same be said about you?

Boba isn't as necessary as Jango (who has no excuse to not be remade very soon), but I also don't see why not if that's what people want.