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BEFORE ENDOR: Rules, Character Lists, and Map List Options
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:55:07 PM
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Bob Chizo wrote:
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UNIQUES


Major Maxmillian Veers

Veers (3 versions)




Why is Veers listed twice?


Error. I will correct it. shmi15, I hope that didn't throw you off... Veers should only be given to one player.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:45:55 AM
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There are 6 + 1 Chewbaccas listed, There are only 5 + 1 Rebel Chewies.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:58:43 AM
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juice man wrote:
There are 6 + 1 Chewbaccas listed, There are only 5 + 1 Rebel Chewies.


How do you figure?
1. Chewie
2. Chewie of Hoth
3. Fearless Scout
4. Rebel Hero
5. Enraged
6. Chewie in AT-ST
+1 Chewie with C-3PO
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:19:08 AM
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Probably missed Chewie in AT-ST since it's not in the database yet. Vset4 not being in the database made the counting a bit less easy on my end, too.
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I thought about Chewie AT-ST, but that's not before Endor. So he's allowed? (there are Ewoks in it)
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juice man wrote:
I thought about Chewie AT-ST, but that's not before Endor. So he's allowed? (there are Ewoks in it)


Pretend the ewoks aren't there. Who's to say the Rebels only ever stole one AT-ST? BigGrin

It's a war of Empire vs Rebel, but all the pieces within the faction are legal. We have to twist canon quite a bit to make the story fit, though. No first Death Star, Galen Marek never does his part of the Jedi purge - instead he turns to the light right away. But Vader has a clone of him. Chewie stole an ATST somewhere else along the way. Jabba might even end up being one of the good guys in this war. And a whole slew of Imperial characters from the EU are just stand-ins for unnamed characters. All the Fels, for example.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:30:07 AM
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PAGING REBEL SUPREME COMMANDER!

juice man is still awaiting orders for our 1st battle on korriban

SCR-(supreme commander, rebel) please respond
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So when do we find out what Uniques we are allowed in our sqauds?
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FlyingArrow wrote:
juice man wrote:
I thought about Chewie AT-ST, but that's not before Endor. So he's allowed? (there are Ewoks in it)


Pretend the ewoks aren't there. Who's to say the Rebels only ever stole one AT-ST? BigGrin

It's a war of Empire vs Rebel, but all the pieces within the faction are legal. We have to twist canon quite a bit to make the story fit, though. No first Death Star, Galen Marek never does his part of the Jedi purge - instead he turns to the light right away. But Vader has a clone of him. Chewie stole an ATST somewhere else along the way. Jabba might even end up being one of the good guys in this war. And a whole slew of Imperial characters from the EU are just stand-ins for unnamed characters. All the Fels, for example.

Yeh, I talked to jak about this and he said "Stop applying reality to a sci-fi/fantasy game set in a different galaxy".
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jak wrote:
PAGING REBEL SUPREME COMMANDER!

juice man is still awaiting orders for our 1st battle on korriban

SCR-(supreme commander, rebel) please respond

When is the deadline for orders?

Found it : Oct 26th.Blushing
It's in the BEssr thread.(Before Endor. standings, schedual, results)
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Just thinking should there be a retreat option? The ruled would be...
Must announce that they are retreating after initiative is determined. After 2 complete rounds, any unique characters on your team still alive would have retreated, allowing them to survive to the next round.
Also, if your opponent surrenders, do all of his uniques die?
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juice man wrote:
jak wrote:
PAGING REBEL SUPREME COMMANDER!

juice man is still awaiting orders for our 1st battle on korriban

SCR-(supreme commander, rebel) please respond

When is the deadline for orders?

Found it : Oct 26th.Blushing
It's in the BEssr thread.(Before Endor. standings, schedual, results)
Sent out today
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:49:25 PM
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knappskirata wrote:
Just thinking should there be a retreat option? The ruled would be...
Must announce that they are retreating after initiative is determined. After 2 complete rounds, any unique characters on your team still alive would have retreated, allowing them to survive to the next round.
Also, if your opponent surrenders, do all of his uniques die?


This rule was added after the rules were initially posted. Please re-read the first post of this thread - there were a couple of other minor changes as well (mentioned in the discussion thread):

Individual Games

Players will play standard 200-point games with gambit and with a time limit. In-person games will have a 60-minute time limit. Vassal games will have a 90-minute time limit. Because the map is predetermined, players simply roll for setup. Winner either chooses side or defers. Epic characters are illegal in this format.

Retreat: A player may move a character off the battle grid. By doing so, the player forfeits the skirmish, and all other characters that the player left on the battle grid are defeated. The character that left the battle grid, however, is not defeated. This is a way to keep a Unique from being defeated, even in a loss.
juice man
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What happens to your living uniques if your opponent wins by points?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:26:14 PM
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juice man wrote:
What happens to your living uniques if your opponent wins by points?


If your opponent wins on points (either when time runs our or by reaching 200 points with gambit), any remaining Uniques escape to fight in another skirmish. Uniques may not be re-used if they are defeated, but if they are not defeated, they may be re-used (even if they lost the skirmish).

Reminder: If a Unique character with multiple versions is defeated, other versions may still be used later in the war. Assume they were picked up and spent time in a Bacta Tank.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:51:10 AM
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Updated.
jak
Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:24:13 AM
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RD 3 MAPS

501 trooper - freight transit station
jak
Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:20:17 AM
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IMPERIAL ROUND 3 MAP ASSIGNMENTS
STUDY THE MAPS AND WIN THE BATTLE
KNOW THE TERRAIN
VERY IMPORTANT BATTLES
VICTORY WIN BRING NEEDED SUPPORT FOR OUR EMPIRE
USE YOUR SQUAD WISELY
WE CAN NOT LOSE ANY MORE VITAL LEADERS
WIN THE BATTLE FOR GLORY AND HONER
A FEW BATTLES LOST WILL NOT LOSE THE WAR
BRING ORDER TO THE GALAXY

EMPEROR PALPITINE IS COUNTING ON YOU
GA JAK, SCE

FlyingArrow wrote:
There are 79 legal maps (if I counted correctly). 20 maps have Fringe Bonuses attached to them, as listed. The planet that the map represents is given in parentheses.

Link to visual map guide: http://www.swmresources.com/downloads/MapListJuly2012%28full%29.pdf

LEGAL MAPS (AVAILABLE)

Cloud City - Fringe Bonus: Lobot and Bespin Guards CAPTAINGIG

Out Law City - ANDYHATTON edited

Jabba's Palace (Tatooine) - Fringe Bonus: Jabba + Gamorrean & Weequay non-uniques SASHLON

Cantina Map (Rodia) - Fringe Bonus: Rodian non-uniques AEQUITAS_7007

Off World Shipping Center (Alsakan) - Fringe Bonus: Evazan BOB CHIZO'S OPPONENT

Off World Cargo Docks (Eshan) - Fringe Bonus: Echani Handmaiden non-uniques JAK

Hall of Judgement DEATHSBAINE'S OPPONENT

Freight Transit Station 501 TROOPER


LEGAL MAPS (USED)
Used in Round 1:
Teth Courtyard
Bothan Spynet (Clak'Dor VII) - Fringe Bonus: Figrin D'an
Nightclub
Coruscant Streets - Fringe Bonus: Xizor + Black Sun non-uniques
Rattatak Arena
Theed Palace - Fringe Bonus: T3-M4
Commander's Office
Korriban by JediCartographer - Fringe Bonus: Czerka Scientist
Yavin Ruins
Grand Plaza

Used in Round 2:
Anchorhead (Klatooine) - Fringe Bonus: Klatooinian non-uniques
Throne Room
Badlands (Ambria)
Crystal Caves of Ilum
Rancor Pen
Rhen Var Citadel (Rhen Var) - Fringe Bonus: Jolee Bindo & Zayne Carrick (representing unattached force users)
Mustafar
Mos Eisley Docking Bay (Saleucami) - Fringe Bonus: Tyber Zann & Zann Consortium non-uniques
Yavin Sanctuary




ILLEGAL MAPS
Deflector Shield Generator
Hoth Plateau, Hoth Plains
Railway Floor
Cargo Bay Floor
The Nova Eclipse

pntkd2
Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:55:36 AM
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No biased answers please, but are the rebels or imperials winning?
juice man
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pntkd2 wrote:
No biased answers please, but are the rebels or imperials winning?

BIASED?? BIASED???? You'll only get a biased answer from the Imperial swine. Oh, Rebs 15 Imps 4.
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