For vader to have been activated that last round Han could use Power blast or Chewie could use Bowcaster.


Looks like it could have been a 3 pt win if there was enough time for one more round. Well played by obiwan, its a tough match up for sure.

Imperial Palps is being used a lot.

Well I started it officially (palps with unleashed Apprentice), but was the only one to lose.

So far we have seen three Palp/Apprentice armies being played (but different variations) and three Rebel god squad armies played (the exact same army).

Cant wait to mix it up with my next game.

Obiwan1knight when can you play again?

I think these would be sweet prize support

http://toybox.io9.com/play-arts-kai-will-turn-boba-fett-and-the-stormtrooper-1694068674

Just type in play arts kai boba fett and go to images for better looking ones. they also have a sweet Darth Vader as well. the stormtrooper is cool too.

To anyone I have yet to play: I am free tonight from 9 pm on. (Possibly earlier) If you can play, BM me.

Cassuss Fett is doing well. Grabbing Hunter is a cool mechanic.


obiwan1knight Bloomail sent :)

So I just finished a game with Sithbot, and it has finally prompted me to write what I have been thinking for some time. I just want to put it out there, first, that I love what the LEGENDS and subsequent sets' designers have created. I have great respect for what is being done, and I realize how difficult it can be to create and playtest custom pieces. With that being said, do not take the following analysis to be complaining or ranting, but rather a participant's honest experience and advice.

From what I have gathered, one goal of the new sets was to diversify the types of squads that can be played apart from the typical powerhouse options. What I want to talk about is how restricting so many of the custom set's characters are. Many of the new characters look awesome until you realize that they have rival for this guy, or unrivaled, or really specific SA's that almost force you to use the characters in a certain way (such as with multiple specific people), or else their application in a squad is minimal.

I can understand the motives for most of the abilities. Unrivaled on Vader and Palpatine is to discourage the use of Thrawn. Mentor is partly flavorful and partly to not be overpowered (I may be wrong about that).

Another realm of difficulties arise in the Old Republic faction. For example, Nomi BC is extremely constricting because to get the most use out of her you are required to only have force users in your squad, and while there are quite a few good force users to choose from, not have good low costing force users besides the Jedi Engineer and the Youngling is a big detriment to squad building. I already touched on Mentor on Kao Cen Darach; I'll just say I think he would be perfect yet for his Mentor ability.

Another issue I see is very specific SA's such as:

Strike Force Leader (Character's whose name contains Nomi Sunrider, Tott Doneeta, Cay Qel-Droma or Ulic Qel-Droma gains Jedi Strike Force)

Which is all well and good, but again, limits Arca Jeth's application in anything but a squad with these characters.
The OR isn't the only faction with these problems, but it's where it is most clearly illustrated.

I would like to point out that there is a certain lack of diversity in the squads contestants are playing. Recently there have been 3 Rebel God Squads (All the same) and 3 Palps and Vader's Apprentice squads (Slight variations). Maybe I am wrong here, but at any rate, OR and some other factions seem to be overlooked, and I believe it is because of all the restrictions.

Meetra Surik, Redeemed Jedi, is a perfect example of what I think more pieces should look like. I look at her stats and can see loads of possibilities. Malgus, Darth Sidious, Anakin HWNF, the Sith Emperor are also great examples of great pieces with many possibilities.
I am certainly not against having one piece specifically boosting another, however I think it has been done way too much now.

In conclusion, the tournament (I think) would benefit greatly from less restricting characters, and since this is a custom set, I may boldly suggest that in the future (depending how far this goes) changes could be made to certain characters. But for now, all that I ask for is some awareness of these issues I have spoken about, and some friendly conversation about them.

Forgive me for taking up so much space on this thread. I would like to talk about it, so maybe someone could start a new thread?

P.S. I do I actually have another slightly unrelated issue. The OR characters don't have enough force points. They both don't start with enough and don't have enough renewal power to sustain their very force-power-centric defense.

I've noticed also the lack of force points for the OR and also the Republic in the Legends Set and its subsequent sets. While i see that some pieces have enough force to be effective, some just don't have enough force points to do their cool stuff a couple times in a match. Why would you start pieces at 1 fp when their cool force power requires 3 and you only have renewal 1 for example? I've talked about this with Bronson before about the lack of force points, and I can definitely see what the problem is that people are having. To me it seems some of the designers of the sets are trying to not create supposedly overly powerful pieces and thus add things like Mentor and Rival or abilities that restrict squad builds. For example, the Ghost crew pieces. Cool pieces, except that you have basically taken away their whole faction from being played with them. There aren't a whole lot of Fringe CE's that can be played with them, so in the end, I just can't justify making a squad with them especially when most of the good fringe pieces the custom sets have made also have restrictions like Hired Gun. Why was it decided he Ghost Crew couldn't interact with the rest of the Rebels? This makes no sense to me. I agree with Obiwanknight that I would also like to see less restrictive pieces in future sets or removing restrictive abilities from current ones. The V-sets did a good job of making pieces that you could make tons of squads with. I'd like for the customs sets to give similar options when it comes to squad builds. The OR guy with Mentor is cool, and if it wasn't for that ability some really neat squads could be made. I made a squad with him that I'd like to use with the restriction Mentor gives, but it was uncomfortable when i was making the squad to remember that I could only have 1 force user besides him in a faction that is predominately made up of Force Users.

yeah the way our playgroup likes to play the game is completely different from what the mainstream game is like. in all honesty if you want to be able to put any piece with any piece, then play standard minis. I find the idea that there are only a couple of squads that are playable laughable. we can not control what people want to play anymore then the v-set designers can. If people are excited to run the legends version of the God-Squad then so be it, there is something fun about dropping luke, han, leia, yoda, Chewbacca and being able to do well. same goes for imperials, you can run vader, palps, tarkin, vader, palps, starkiller, and do very well.... but you can also run mandalorians and do well, as spry showed, you can also win with new republic spry showed that as well, against oh imagine that the rebel squad that has been ran a lot. pego also won with new republic, and it was a completely different squad then sprys. someone else won with a classified squad lol, interesting there. republic with senate commandos won. and sith just won.

so as of now these factions have all won games:
New Republic
Sith
Mandos
Republic
Imperial
Rebel
and one classified squad that I don't know lol.

I don't see the problem with the limitations we have placed on anything......

Old Republic and Separatists (MULTIPLE times lol) won in the first leg of the event as well, to add to Deaths_Baine's list above. Not sure if all fringe made much impact as of yet.

I see I definitely made a mistake when I commented about the diversity of squads, (As I said in my first post, I might have been wrong about it) I haven't closely followed each winning and losing squad, so what I said was clearly unsupported.

Anyway, your playgroup made the customs, you made the event, and you have done a lot of work for both. If this is how you guys like to play miniatures, then you can absolutely keep the restrictions. I don't particularly care for them, but I am playing your game, not mine.