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@Echo: Yeah, banning would have been better. Pieces like Daala or Krennic at least warrant errata because they are squad cornerstones. Plutt doesn't create a play style, he just counters something else.
@Flying: If there were any errata for him, I think 21 cost would have been brilliant - give the Hutt Cartel a slight boost because they can counter Reserves, but your average chump dragging Lobot along can't.
@Jen'ari: Thanks! I guess I'm not hearing anything objectionable, but maybe I'll listen to it again later.
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CorellianComedian wrote:@Flying: If there were any errata for him, I think 21 cost would have been brilliant - give the Hutt Cartel a slight boost because they can counter Reserves, but your average chump dragging Lobot along can't.
That's effectively what is there now. Low Caste means he can't be brought in with Reinforcements, but he can still be brought in via the Kajidii.
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CorellianComedian wrote:
@Jen'ari: Thanks! I guess I'm not hearing anything objectionable, but maybe I'll listen to it again later.
I did not hear a ton of problems either. Just the shadows of existing issues that lead to the larger issue. "v-set team" deciding the future of the game without caring about the community. it is ok to destroy reserves because we don't like the way it is played. is the feeling derived from that 2 minute talk. Sure the talk said that they "understand some people like it" which is just casting shadow and lip service seeing as how Plutt wasn't just banned as many people asked for.
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FlyingArrow wrote:CorellianComedian wrote:@Flying: If there were any errata for him, I think 21 cost would have been brilliant - give the Hutt Cartel a slight boost because they can counter Reserves, but your average chump dragging Lobot along can't.
That's effectively what is there now. Low Caste means he can't be brought in with Reinforcements, but he can still be brought in via the Kajidii. except for the fact that he was upper class on Jakku and not Low Caste at all. he was in power for crying out loud! 21 would have been much better thematically even if it is very very similar function wise. but that is not my main issue, my main issue is that it is still around and the BC has failed so terribly in this to represent the community. (that gets smaller and smaller because of it). #tinfoilhat
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I am at work so I cant go into grand detail. We have never Perma-banned a piece and would rather not start. GeneralGrevious was consulted on possible options for errata by myself and this was his preferred option over a cost increase. To add, Unkar has other Uses other than a reserves Nerf, if your only use for him in your squad is to counter reserves he is a waste of points. Reserves have a place in the game and this decision shows that the balance team thinks so too.
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There will be a formal Ballance Committee post on Unkar later today. :)
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Darth_Frenchy wrote:I am at work so I cant go into grand detail. you have a job? I just assumed that your elitist agenda took up all your time  
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Wow! I posted more when I had a job.
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juice man wrote:Wow! I posted more when I had a job. you were employed, not sure if you had a job. that implies work being done
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DarthMaim wrote:The V-Set 14 Design Team and Balance Committee have concluded their inquiry into the recent commotion caused by the Death Trooper/ First Order squad. The determination was made that errtum of Director Orson Krennic is needed. *** Effective Immediately*** Director Orson Krennic Errata * Rival now includes First Order *Rapport 3 instead of Rapport 5. * Second Commander Effect no longer gives Cunning Attack. * Third Commander Effect will now be ignored by Attacks with Lightsabers. Please update Director Orson Krennic details to Card Errata section  Is TimmerB the one that needs to update this post?????????????
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And how about this big one???????????????????????????????
Card Errata
Unkar Plutt
• add Low Caste (Cannot be added to a squad via any character’s Reinforcements or Reserves abilities. This character's cost cannot be reduced.)
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This is getting super difficult to keep track of, especially for new players...……………………………………….
( Feedback I have been getting from a few of the new players I recruited at my LGS )
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DarthMaim wrote:This is getting super difficult to keep track of, especially for new players...……………………………………….
( Feedback I have been getting from a few of the new players I recruited at my LGS )
Hard for returning player too. Guess it's the nature of the beast.
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adamb0nd wrote:DarthMaim wrote:This is getting super difficult to keep track of, especially for new players...……………………………………….
( Feedback I have been getting from a few of the new players I recruited at my LGS )
Hard for returning player too. Guess it's the nature of the beast. It really shouldn’t be and doesn’t need to be, though.
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updated 1st post. (sorry for the delay) All info transferred from here: http://swmgamers.com/PDF/Rules/Balance-Committee-Changes-2018.pdf
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All looks good besides missing Unkar. Unkar Plutt · Gain the following Special Ability for competitive play: Low Caste (Cannot be added to a squad via any character’s Reinforcements or Reserves abilities. This character’s cost cannot be reduced.) I've been maintaining a page for the balance committee but Tim's post is more accessible and a lot prettier. http://starfireskee.com/balance-team-changes/
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It's been 2 yrs since the last balance committee change. Is there still a balance committee left in this game??????????????????????? The community has spoken since August 2019, after the last GenCon. Clearly changes must be made. What's going on here????????????????????????????????????? It's now Feb 2020. Please make some changes for petes sake  
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DarkDracul wrote:Official Balance Committee Rulings for (2020) competitive tournament play. Add to Floor Rules:Decreasing Activations: In order to decrease the number of activations in a phase, a character must have line-of-sight to an enemy and no ally with Reinforcements in their squad.Glossary Change:Suppressive Fire: Remove the second sentence, “enemies hit by this character’s attacks cannot benefit from or grant commander effects for the rest of the round.”
We will continue to monitor "Unique Yuuzhan Vong Squads" (Yun-Yammka Devotion) as well as any new concerns throughout the season.
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