I’ll try and address some of the concerns/ questions raised here concerning ReyLo.
Hopefully, I can at least give some insight into what the designers were thinking.

Dark Master ReyLo? . . .
Doubtful players will often play ReyLo with Snoke (106pts) but Snoke was a Dark Master and could have fueled Rey with force if he wanted. Rey was not able to resist Snoke’s power. Snoke bonded Rey to Kylo and had them Force Skyping each other. He tossed Rey around like a rag doll and ripped the secret of Skywalker’s location from her mind. He ordered Kylo to kill Rey because she had the spirit of a Jedi and he knew Kylo felt compassion for her. He wanted the Jedi eliminated and Kylo to redeem himself. Anyways, Dray has Dark Master and he's cheaper and Fringe.

How can Rey be First Order? …
General Leia sent Rey on a mission to find Luke Skywalker, but after Ben Swolo slides into her DMs she goes AWOL. Rey believes she can save Swolo but she’s unintentionally acting in the interests of the First Order. Snoke has influenced Rey into betraying the Resistance and Luke Skywalker. She gives Luke a beat down and takes off despite him telling her not to go. Then she delivers herself, a potential weapon, into the hands of the enemy and gives up Luke’s hidey porg place. Then she fights side-by-side with Kylo and helps him become the new Supreme Leader. From Kylo’s perspective, Rey is helping his First Order and should rule the galaxy at his side.

How can Kylo be Resistance? …
Kylo is failing as Snoke’s dark enforcer. Snoke scolds Kylo for his failure to defeat Rey, but when Rey slides into his DMs he gets a plan to betray Snoke and defeat the Praetorian Guard with Rey’s help. Kylo is only thinking of himself but is unintentionally acting in the interests of the Resistance. He kills Snoke along with the secret of Luke’s hidey porg-place. Then fights side-by-side with Rey eliminating a squad of elite First Order warriors and helps her escape. From Rey’s perspective Kylo is helping the Resistance and should join their cause.

Why Acrobat?
They seemed acrobatic enough during that throne room scene. Also, both characters display acrobatic abilities in the Battlefront game. Also, we didn’t want their Large base being so easily pinned down by Praetorian Guard.

Why Force Repulse?
Luke, “I've seen this raw strength only once before. It didn't scare me enough then. It does now.” We felt Force Repulse represented Rey cracking the ground in half and Kylo dropping a hut on Luke’s head. Kylo has a Repulse like ability in Battlefront. We also figured if both characters simultaneously did a force push it'd kinda be like a Repulse.

Why Spinning Blade? . . .
While they weren’t spinning their blades like Grevious, both blades were working overtime during that throne room scene. Rey and Kylo were taking on multiple enemies . . . and that’s literally what Spinning Blade Attack does.

Why Anarchist? . . .
Both Rey and Kylo are going rogue during that throne room scene. Rey is acting of her own accord, isn’t supposed to be there, and Kylo is betraying his Master. They haven’t quite sorted out which side the other is on, but they’ve got each other’s backs until they do. We felt Anarchist represented that thematically pretty well, and it gives them a "disruptive" ability as well as shutting down unwanted interactions and squad-builds. e.g. Reylo w/ Snoke's CE, Thrawn's CE, or General Leia CE.

Why not Fringe? . . .
Sometimes when a character briefly helps a faction they're placed into that faction. Force-Boned Rey and Kylo both intentionally and unintentionally help each others’ factions. Rey disobeyed orders, took a huge risk to help the Resistance and in doing so unintentionally helps Kylo’s Empire. Kylo betrays the First Order to assume its leadership and unintentionally helps Rey and the Resistance escape. Also, we didn’t want Rey and Kylo as Fringe and playing with Vong or Sith.

What if you’re on a design team and say NO! but are outvoted . . .
Then you will know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. It’s frightening. Turns the legs to jelly. I ask you, to what end? Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. And now, it's here. Or should I say . . . ReyLo.

Way I see it . . . SWM allows for multiple character variants, so I can too; Even if I don’t like a design or don't think it's needed. If it's a real problem the balance committee can deal with it. Heck most designs rarely see play and are easy to ignore. If a design does get played and players like it, let em have fun with that.

So..... That's declaring allegiance to the resistance huh? Noted--- in the mind of the designers anytime people fight together or sacrifice themselves for friends you can retroactively decide they actually belong to whatever faction was present there.


Oh kylo and rey fought together let's make them allies and allow them to be in either faction. Its not like kylo is actively trying to wipe the resistance off the face of the universe lol.

I would like a republic ventress please. Also it was the council's dark decision to team then up to assassinate him. That's clearly dark side so can we get a Sith version of the council....

I think designers should be careful in placing a precedent on why they do what they do.

"Lightsabers working overtime" equates to spinning blade attack.
That precedent would for under any Jedi, ever at some point. Anakin and obi-wans lightsabers were working so hard in revenge. So with the set precedent literally any Jedi can have spinning blade attack and party as part of who there character if it was desired.

Force repulse is a pretty specific force power. It should not be put on people Willy nilly or excused because it looked like something. I think there should be documented proof of such ability. Especially in a design that is for a very specific scene or groups of scenes (Luke, rebel commando or Vader of lothal). This piece should represent the throne room scene verse the guard and only that scene.

Once again acrobatics is for have purposes only. Which is a much more easy pill to swallow then trying to justify it themicatically. (Which would make zero sense).

The other faction and sun faction specific stuff his just way too far gone from having any sense at all. It is beyond understanding why kylo can go to battle and protect and serve the Resistance. It is being comprehension that Rey can team up with Snoke and the guard and phasma. It goes against everything the character believed in

short answer...no it shouldn't have been.

I think it is peculiar that you use the logic "he wasn't trying to wipe out the resistance during the throne room scene" as an argument point. Then turn around and say "we can use stuff from outside sources of the scene" (paraphrasing).

It seems that creates a lot of freedom to do whatever you want as a designer in terms of "defending theme".
The precedent carried to a silly level could, once again, have a Kenobi with affinity for Dooku. Dooku did try to turn Kenobi. And one time they did work together.

The precedent just allows for however silly the designer wants to get with it, which is dangerous imo. I think everyone can agree that Kenobi affinity Dooku it's too silly. But there are a ton less silly and more real interactions than that.

So my wife and I have out thoughts on Reylo, we find it pretty weird as is, the idea is in my wife's words "cute" but we agreed that it makes more sense if they each costed 50 points and had a special ability that the other person can be in that character's Squad as long as they are the only other character. Then you could field them as a 100 point team against 100 point of guards and would be akin to squad-building requirements of The Father. As it doesn't make any sense to bring them on literally any other squad of the first order/resistance. And could be fun for 100 point games. Anyways those are our thoughts.

Side note massive fan of the vehicles subset! So I guess different people like different things and everybody love everybody haha.

Sadly, it's impossible to cater to everyone.

That's a cool concept, maybe that will happen after episode 9? lol
I totally get how Reylo is a little wonky and outside some people's comfort zones.
It is different and fitting IMHO for a character on a "The Last Jedi" mini-set.
But other designers will probably take note of this and avoid such characters in the future.

Same. Not sure what the hate is there.

It is impossible to cater to everyone.

Catering to "most" is noble. Unfortunately, as we've seen time and time again in this community, the rabid minority scream loudest.

What they are really complaining about is that you are not catering to THEM specifically.

How dare you!


It's odd.

It's almost as if these things are subjective.