There was a regional sometime this year that a squad was played wrong and it either made the finals or won it. Its actually pretty common for squads to be misplayed without anyone catching it till either after, or during the championship

thats not that crazy. Thats how Minis used to be played. Lots of acts, no attacking, and positioning until the final round ( time limit) then you try and kill their Lobot ,lol.

Minis back in WOTC was very lame.

in the absence of knowledge and truth.... speculation and imagination runs rampant... we need an update!!

Back in the old days, 5 rounds was an impressive feat. Your allowed I think 2 minutes per turn. If you have 20 activations and act control, and so does your opponent, you could legally, get 1 round in.

ahhh speculation. there isn't a hard fast rule about how much time you have. You have to play in away that demonstrates you are trying to win which is to obtain 200 points. any other style of play.. stalling to only play 3 rounds swap at end of round 3 kill a mouse droid then win is cheating.

You never played a match back when 20+ activation and act control was prominent, and it only lasted 3-5 rounds? Not once?

^^^^Play at a pace to reach 200 points has been the rule forever. the moment they ever set a definitive time limit it would lead to game fixing etc.


That being said... I remember tons of games only lasting 2-4 rounds and ending 100-60ish points

I genuinely can’t ever recall even hearing about a 2 round game, and I think a 3 round game would have been exceedingly rare except for when one player concedes.

You’re right that low scores used to be pretty common, and most games didn’t get to the build total. That’s where the 3/2 scoring came from. But that was usually because of cagey play, less often because of slow play. Not that slow play NEVER happened, it definitely did, but I’d consider 3 or 4 rounds on the slow end, 5 or 6 rounds about average, 7+ rounds starts getting impressive.

No, and I just looked up my write up of it and I didn’t really note the number of rounds per game. I do know that I won the Maryland regional the following year (2011) with Solo Charge, which often brought in 10 mouse droids with Lobot, and I went 7-0 with all 3 point wins. Graham Bingham and Jason are the only other players who have gotten 21 points in a regional (mostly because not long after that regionals got too small to play 5 rounds of Swiss).

I’ll even grant that 3-5 rounds was relatively common, but that’s still different than 5 rounds being impressive. I maintain that I wouldn’t have been impressed by a game that lasted fewer than 7 rounds, and 5 rounds was an average length. Remember, you get to finish whatever round you get to when time is called. Often my opponent and I would hurry to roll initiative before time expires to fit another round in.


Also, activation control shouldn’t matter. The length of a round should be based on the number of TURNS in that round, not PHASES. If it takes me on average 45 seconds per turn in a round and I have 20 activation, it doesn’t matter if that’s divided into 10 phases or 20 phases. I’ve never really understood that argument, although it’s always been a really common thing to say.

*shrug* It never took me much longer to play whether I had activation control or not. You should be thinking a few moves ahead either way.