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dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:36:18 PM
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eMouse wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
none of those are insults...
confrontational maybee, but if your friend was bannedby a mod and given no reason as to why you would be looking for answers too right?


The tone of them is insulting, thus, they are insults.

Going on the forum and harassing a mod until you get yourself banned is not going to help your friend or his case. In fact, quite the opposite. It makes the moderator even more certain that they did the right thing.


tone is an audio term...
thus there is no tone in a typed message...
and I have not broken any rules to get banned
eMouse
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:37:12 PM
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trappedslider wrote:
Sithborg wrote:

Keeping reasons why a person is punished private allows them to learn from the experience, and keep hard feelings down.


Not that it really matters, since it just gets spread around via skype or on other sites...RollEyes


But in that case it's the person who was banned who is usually spreading the information.
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:37:32 PM
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jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
Millertime wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
Sheesh, just Lay off of Sithborg already. He is clearly one of the best mods here (IMHO) and sending a lynch mob after him doesn't do any good.


thats an opinion...
banning someone and not giving them a reason, but claiming that he has...
Ive read all the mails between him and MDB with my own eyes.

Sithborg does a great job here and he does not abuse his power he is one of the few mods that tries to see it both ways...and have you read the PM's because you are MDB posting on another name or are you just out to pick a fight that could end with this thread getting locked also and getting yourself suspended


actually he is one of my best friends...
and if he is going to be banned he at least deserves a strait answer!


Millertimes friends have been banned too and no complaint



they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!
saeseetiin
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:38:19 PM
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jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
Millertime wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
Sheesh, just Lay off of Sithborg already. He is clearly one of the best mods here (IMHO) and sending a lynch mob after him doesn't do any good.


thats an opinion...
banning someone and not giving them a reason, but claiming that he has...
Ive read all the mails between him and MDB with my own eyes.

Sithborg does a great job here and he does not abuse his power he is one of the few mods that tries to see it both ways...and have you read the PM's because you are MDB posting on another name or are you just out to pick a fight that could end with this thread getting locked also and getting yourself suspended


actually he is one of my best friends...
and if he is going to be banned he at least deserves a strait answer!


Millertimes friends have been banned too and no complaint


No Millertime was complaining
defender390
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:38:49 PM
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For the record, I want harsher moderating, just not unchecked moderating. More community notification and help for mods is all I am asking for.
jew3
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:39:02 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you
Partof1
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
eMouse wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
none of those are insults...
confrontational maybee, but if your friend was bannedby a mod and given no reason as to why you would be looking for answers too right?


The tone of them is insulting, thus, they are insults.

Going on the forum and harassing a mod until you get yourself banned is not going to help your friend or his case. In fact, quite the opposite. It makes the moderator even more certain that they did the right thing.


tone is an audio term...
thus there is no tone in a typed message...
and I have not broken any rules to get banned

Tone is also a writing term, referring to the attitude with which something is read. A post is still read as insulting, condescending, etc based on word choice, and thus, is an insult.
jew3
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:40:01 PM
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saeseetiin wrote:

No Millertime was complaining


He wasn't complaining about his friends getting banned.
saeseetiin
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:40:41 PM
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jew3 wrote:
saeseetiin wrote:

No Millertime was complaining


He wasn't complaining about his friends getting banned.


Not is this thread but in the other he was.
jew3
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:42:52 PM
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Just so everyone knows, Bill says that he understands why he was suspended and accepts the consequences fully.
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:43:51 PM
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jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you


not when mods claim that banned people get a reason as to why they are suspended but they dont!
eMouse
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:44:48 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
tone is an audio term...
thus there is no tone in a typed message...
and I have not broken any rules to get banned


This is the example that proves my point.

You make an inaccurate, inflammatory statement ('tone is an audio term'), disregarding that it is also commonly used in other ways (a particular style or manner, as of writing or speech; mood:), implying that I don't understand English. That is insulting.

Tone of writing is even more important because there is no audio or visual component. I can't tell if you're joking because I have no facial or auditory reference. It becomes a matter of chance whether I take your statement as a humorous one or as an insult.
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:45:18 PM
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Partof1 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
eMouse wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
none of those are insults...
confrontational maybee, but if your friend was bannedby a mod and given no reason as to why you would be looking for answers too right?


The tone of them is insulting, thus, they are insults.

Going on the forum and harassing a mod until you get yourself banned is not going to help your friend or his case. In fact, quite the opposite. It makes the moderator even more certain that they did the right thing.


tone is an audio term...
thus there is no tone in a typed message...
and I have not broken any rules to get banned

Tone is also a writing term, referring to the attitude with which something is read. A post is still read as insulting, condescending, etc based on word choice, and thus, is an insult.



so according to what you just said the tone would depend upon the reader...
in this case you, making it your tone not mine...
lets make it simple: if I wanted to say it in the way you have obviously misconstrued then I would be making direct insults and cursing...
but Im not...
please make a valid point already!!!
jew3
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:45:31 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you


not when mods claim that banned people get a reason as to why they are suspended but they dont!


Really?? I don't believe Scott gave no good reason. Prove it.
saeseetiin
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:47:35 PM
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jew3 wrote:
Just so everyone knows, Bill says that he understands why he was suspended and accepts the consequences fully.


Bill is not banned permanently MDB is.
eMouse
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:48:50 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
so according to what you just said the tone would depend upon the reader...
in this case you, making it your tone not mine...


It can be a fault of the reader to not pick up on the correct tone given by the writer, but the writer has to actively set their tone to begin with.
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:48:55 PM
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jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you


not when mods claim that banned people get a reason as to why they are suspended but they dont!


Really?? I don't believe Scott gave no good reason. Prove it.



thats the point!
he didnt even give a reason!!!
jew3
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:49:44 PM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you


not when mods claim that banned people get a reason as to why they are suspended but they dont!


Really?? I don't believe Scott gave no good reason. Prove it.



thats the point!
he didnt even give a reason!!!


Again, prove it! show me the proof
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:49:56 PM
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saeseetiin wrote:
jew3 wrote:
Just so everyone knows, Bill says that he understands why he was suspended and accepts the consequences fully.


Bill is not banned permanently MDB is.



banned until 2015 at least...
can we say excessive boys and girls?!?
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:52:09 PM
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jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:
jew3 wrote:
dahatchetjeedi wrote:

they were prob given a strait answer as to why also...
not the run around that MDB is getting!


There really is no pleasing you


not when mods claim that banned people get a reason as to why they are suspended but they dont!


Really?? I don't believe Scott gave no good reason. Prove it.



thats the point!
he didnt even give a reason!!!


Again, prove it! show me the proof



this is verbatum what was sent to MDB from sithborg:
You will need to talk to Shinja for specifics, but I do know he feels you violated your last chance.
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